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States will tell Supreme Court feds must act on warming
LA Times ^ | 11/25/06 | David G. Savage

Posted on 11/25/2006 9:06:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON — The polar icecaps are melting, summers growing hotter and hurricanes becoming more powerful, but the Bush administration has insisted it cannot regulate the gases that many believe are responsible.

On Wednesday, a coalition of 12 states, led by California and Massachusetts, will try to persuade the Supreme Court that the nation's environmental regulators have the legal authority and responsibility to control greenhouse gas emissions linked to global warming — which many scientists describe as the biggest environmental threat to the planet.

It is a rare day when state lawyers travel to Washington hoping to win new powers for the federal government. As David Bookbinder, a Sierra Club lawyer, noted, "How often do federal authorities insist they lack the authority to do something?"

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The case before the Supreme Court tests that conclusion. It begins with a simple question: Is carbon dioxide an "air pollutant" under the Clean Air Act? The answer may determine not only whether federal regulators must tackle global warming, but also whether California and other states may do so on their own.

Four years ago, California adopted stricter rules. The state Legislature declared its intent to "achieve the maximum feasible and cost-effective reduction of greenhouse gas emissions" from motor vehicles. These standards for new cars and trucks are to take effect in 2009.

The California way

Because of California's notorious smog problem, Congress permitted the Golden State to adopt stricter exhaust standards for cars and trucks under a special provision in the federal air pollution laws of the 1970s. Other states are allowed to follow California's lead, and 10 — ... — have plans to do so.

"Global warming is a national and international crisis. And even if the federal government won't do anything, many states will," said California Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer, ...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cleanairact; globalwarming; states; supremecourt

1 posted on 11/25/2006 9:06:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Why not pitch this as an illegal immigration issue? The more people that show up for the American good life, the higher American energy use will be.


2 posted on 11/25/2006 9:07:44 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: NormsRevenge

aahh back to the issue that matters.. the environment. forget terrorism and illegals..


3 posted on 11/25/2006 9:17:07 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon

No one will tll me what caused the last ice age to melt... but I am sure it was Bush's fault.


4 posted on 11/25/2006 9:18:59 PM PST by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: irishtenor

No one will tll me what caused the last ice age to melt... but I am sure it was Bush's fault.



A good point.

But you missed the real point.

The real point is that if you tell a lie often enough, it will eventually be accepted as the truth.

The easy one to start with is the lie that hurricanes are stronger. That has been totally disproven.

I guess all of those lawn mowers, outboards and chain saws the Vikings took with them to Greenland in the year 900 is what caused that warm spell that lasted until the 1300's.


5 posted on 11/25/2006 9:25:55 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: NormsRevenge
The polar icecaps are melting, summers growing hotter and hurricanes becoming more powerful and the sky is falling but the Bush administration has insisted it cannot regulate the gases that many believe are responsible for the sky falling. Oh woe what shall we do, oh woe what shall we do.

The first sentence as originally submitted to the editor.

6 posted on 11/25/2006 9:30:17 PM PST by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: NormsRevenge


STOP GLOBAL WORMING NOW!


It's too late to do anything about the WArming... /smirk

7 posted on 11/25/2006 9:31:11 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Massachusetts, that's the state that the junior jokester Carry represents.
He had a fire hydrant moved so it wouldn't interfere with his guest's entry to his mansh.
Wonder how he'd like to have the glaciers that covered New England back again.
He probably has a plan for that too, bet it's on his web site.
How far back in eco time do these nit wits want to go?
Sorry, how far back do they want others to go.


8 posted on 11/25/2006 9:56:21 PM PST by Fortran v2 (what's this space for)
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To: woodbutcher

And all this time I thought it was the beans that caused global warming.


9 posted on 11/25/2006 10:03:11 PM PST by irishtenor (Save the whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: woodbutcher

ROFL... indeed.


10 posted on 11/25/2006 10:12:04 PM PST by AliVeritas (And you will know that I am in the midst of Israel, that I am the Lord your God.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Hi, we're lawyers from Mexifornia, and we're here to tell you about the next Ice Age.”

</snicker>

11 posted on 11/25/2006 10:13:30 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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To: AliVeritas

They really think Bush is god, don't they?

Hello... it's nature.

Where's Karl? ... he has the keys to the weather machine.


12 posted on 11/25/2006 10:15:28 PM PST by AliVeritas (And you will know that I am in the midst of Israel, that I am the Lord your God.)
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To: NormsRevenge
On Wednesday, a coalition of 12 states, led by California and Massachusetts

These states should secede.
I really, really wish they would secede.

13 posted on 11/25/2006 10:25:47 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: NormsRevenge

Of course these states want to run to the federal government. These politicians have been conditioned to run to the big sows teat when things get hard for them. They don't want the responsibility of making tough decisions or suffer the consequences.

I personally say that global warming is junk science that has been swallowed hook, line, and sinker. Heck, thirty years ago it was a crisis that we were going to slip into another ice age. Sorry to tell these monkey butt morons, but nature does not move that fast. They are guessing and it is gonna cost us poor sap taxpayers.


14 posted on 11/25/2006 10:26:11 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Libertarian = aid and comfort to the democratic party)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Global warming is a national and international crisis. And even if the federal government won't do anything, many states will," said California Atty. Gen. Bill Lockyer

This scumbag Lockyer likes to talk. I suggest he open some history books and follow the plan that solved "global cooling" back in the '70s.

15 posted on 11/25/2006 10:28:41 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

rest assured that Moonbeam will continue the fight after Lockyer moves on ..


16 posted on 11/25/2006 10:30:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Cornyn / Kyl in '08)
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To: MissouriConservative
"Of course these states want to run to the federal government."

Of course, these states want TO RUN the federal government.

yitbos

17 posted on 11/25/2006 10:50:59 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: NormsRevenge

Time to regulate mother nature. Time to gain more control...and more....and more....and more...


18 posted on 11/25/2006 10:55:19 PM PST by Revel
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To: NormsRevenge

s&^rew Mass and cali/mexica


19 posted on 11/25/2006 11:04:02 PM PST by shadowcat
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To: NormsRevenge

s&^rew Mass and cali/mexica


20 posted on 11/25/2006 11:04:48 PM PST by shadowcat
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To: NormsRevenge
Oh, really?

Antarctic Ice Sheet Mass Balance (yep, it's growing)

21 posted on 11/25/2006 11:46:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Are your parents Pro-Choice? I guess you got lucky! ... Is your spouse? Your doctor?)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's not that Lockyer is a moonbeam - - he may well be - - it's that he's stupid. In 2006, if a career politician is not aware that the "green" movement is nothing more than a front for the global socialists, then that politician is an idiot, unless he/she supports global socialism. Oh....


22 posted on 11/26/2006 12:50:55 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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" Is carbon dioxide an "air pollutant" under the Clean Air Act? "


In that case Libtards and Leftards spew the poison into the air constantly endangering us all -- IT MUST BE STOPPED!!!

Since disintegration booths produce all kinds of noxious chemicals, I propose we rid ourselves of this threat by a clever use of woodchippers and disposal in deep underground mines.

Think of the children......
23 posted on 11/26/2006 2:33:27 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: NormsRevenge

I hereby declare it illegal for all liberals to exhale. That should solve the carbon dioxide problem that the left is always whining about.


24 posted on 11/26/2006 2:38:04 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: NormsRevenge
What clause will they find to support taking control of the whole US economy? Back to the game of the Ultimate Legislature, the Supreme Court.
25 posted on 11/26/2006 3:09:15 AM PST by dalight
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To: NormsRevenge

Al Gore Reveals That Cigarettes Cause Global Warming

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2006/09/al_gore_reveals.html


26 posted on 11/26/2006 3:28:00 AM PST by preacher (A government which robs from Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Lancey Howard
Wait until the new Gov. takes office in MA. The "Union Leader" the largest newspaper here in NH is preparing us for the "refugees from Mass."
27 posted on 11/26/2006 3:36:22 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn't the job of the supremes. or activist judges.


28 posted on 11/26/2006 4:11:50 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: tiger-one
The "Union Leader" the largest newspaper here in NH is preparing us for the "refugees from Mass."

That's a good thing - - those refugees certainly won't be the parasites. Massachusetts, in fact, is likely to turn into even more of a parasite magnet now that the Massholes have elected a Democrat governor..

29 posted on 11/26/2006 9:43:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
In fact the UL says of the MA who have started the migration are republicans. Maybe we can keep NH conservative and take it back.
30 posted on 11/26/2006 10:24:51 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: tiger-one
the MA who have started the migration are republicans. Maybe we can keep NH conservative and take it back.

Send some down to Pennsylvania. Massachusetts is a hopeless toilet so if we can save a couple of other states with its refugees, then why not? That is, as long as the scum who continually elect politicians like that fat drunk Kennedy and that gigolo goofball Kerry stay right where they are....

31 posted on 11/26/2006 10:36:45 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Teddy has to be running for the finish line, six feet under finish line.

I'd like to see Trezzzaaa get caught with some young stud so we can watch John cave
32 posted on 11/26/2006 10:45:27 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: NormsRevenge

If anyone from my state does anything but PROMOTE global warming they should be recalled.


33 posted on 11/26/2006 10:50:30 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: NormsRevenge
What is with these dimwits, anyway?

If they really, really want to save energy, reduce emissions, help the po' get back on their feet, they should repeal the Law of Gravity...That'll get them off their arses.

34 posted on 11/26/2006 10:56:59 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: tiger-one

I think it's more likely Kerry is alreay looking for his next jackpot.


35 posted on 11/26/2006 11:05:14 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Cinnamon
aahh back to the issue that matters.. the environment. forget terrorism and illegals..

Those intangible, feel good issues that the Dems like to tackle.

36 posted on 11/26/2006 11:08:18 AM PST by oldbrowser (This war isn't over until it's OVER.)
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To: NormsRevenge

THESE PEOPLE ARE EFFING IDIOTS - ENOUGH SAID


37 posted on 11/26/2006 11:41:40 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: NormsRevenge
While they're at the Supremes, why don't they add the following:

"Abortion is a national and international crisis, killing 1,500,000 babies/yr. And even if the federal government won't do anything, many states will," ...
38 posted on 11/26/2006 11:49:47 AM PST by TRY ONE (NUKE the unborn gay whales!)
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