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Murdered Russian ex-spy Litvinenko passed documents to former Yukos CEO in Israel
Debka ^
| 11/25/06
| Debka
Posted on 11/26/2006 7:40:06 AM PST by Donna Lee Nardo
Murdered Russian ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko passed documents to former Yukos CEO in Israel months before his death - report
November 25, 2006, 9:10 AM (GMT+02:00)
Leonid Nevzlin, former CEO of the oil giant and current chairman of the Diaspora Museum in Tel Aviv, says the former Russian spy came to Israel with classified documents on Yukos which may be damaging to Russian leaders. Nevzliln estimates that Litvinenkos death was connected with this information, which he has handed to London police investigators of the murder.
DEBKAfiles intelligence sources add that the Russian ex-spy is believed to have been a double agent, who sold trade secrets to different parties in and outside Russia, among them some of the Russian oligarchs living in exile in the West. Livinenko served as a colonel in a Russian Federal Security Services unit which investigated and carried out special operations against businessmen.
British police found traces of the radioactive Polonium 210 in Litvinenkos urine.
The London media accuse Vladimir Putin of being behind the murder which they claim was politically-motivated.
TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; Russia
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; crime; garbage; jewhaters; kgb; litvinenko; livinenko; putin; putinlovers; russia
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I like Debka. Others like Debka. If you don't like Debka, fine. Make your anti-Debka remarks. At least try to make then funny, please.
BTW, I had to slightly alter the title to meet the character maximum.
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Was just reading a story that police are investigating this as a possible suicide. That was also one of my first thoughts.
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posted on
11/26/2006 7:41:40 AM PST
by
Williams
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Debka...sigh.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised to learn of a Yukos connection. It seems to be the Flagship in the new fleet of stealth communism russia is launching.
To: Williams
The Independent UK ran a report this morning that Livinenko may have poisoned himself to discredit Putin.
Incredible?
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posted on
11/26/2006 7:44:21 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: Williams
Sure, looks like suicide to me too. Hell, anybody can get polonium-210 at Walmart. They had a Black Friday special on it this weekend
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posted on
11/26/2006 7:49:14 AM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Yeah.
Polonium X20, or whatever, was his second choice of a means for implicating Pooty Poot (of good heart and soul fame) and the ***ALL NEW AND IMPROVED KGB***.
(protectors of the Rodina, may piss be upon them)
The first choice was duct taping his mouth, hands and feet,shooting himself in the back of the head twice, disposing of the silenced pistol, and placing his own body in the trunk of a rental car and leaving it at the airport.
The drawback to that was he did not have a valid drivers license and would not be rented a car. :~)
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posted on
11/26/2006 7:58:29 AM PST
by
Gideon Reader
("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Kenya AA and enjoying his Stan Getz CD's".)
To: GarySpFc; spanalot; nw_arizona_granny; M. Espinola; Romanov; MadIvan; Tailgunner Joe; A. Pole; ...
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posted on
11/26/2006 7:59:46 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
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posted on
11/26/2006 8:00:57 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: Gideon Reader
Ha ha. I see we agree that Livinenko took the easier route, going with the poison option!
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posted on
11/26/2006 8:02:09 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: spanalot
Thank you for your links. You're an ace at show and tell. :)
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posted on
11/26/2006 8:05:10 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
"I like Debka. Others like Debka" Debka is alright with me.
In terms of the subject material the London media is on the correct track relating to this assassination.
"The London media accuse Vladimir Putin of being behind the murder which they claim was politically-motivated."
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posted on
11/26/2006 8:11:56 AM PST
by
M. Espinola
(Freedom is never free)
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]
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posted on
11/26/2006 8:30:29 AM PST
by
SJackson
(A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
FINALLY, a new newstory on a slow sun..
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posted on
11/26/2006 8:48:19 AM PST
by
1234
(WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
To: Dog
Debka or not, there's an awful lot of smoke around this guy's death.
To: Williams
Was just reading a story that police are investigating this as a possible suicide. That was also one of my first thoughts.No doubt, more than a few scenarios to be floated - so as to dilute the truth of the matter - which we may never know; in fact.
That said, do not believe it was suicide; and personally give this man credibility on his death bed in that he knew who killed him and said as much.
You can take the man out of the KGB; but not the KGB out of the man; and this is how I view Putin. . .and all this, just another warning of many. . .as to whom we can trust in the world.
The numbers of which of few, indeed. . .
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:03:41 AM PST
by
cricket
(Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! JOIN THE DEMOCRATS. . .)
To: Gideon Reader
lol!. . .and yes, a likely scenario for a swift death. And one he no doubt regretted, not taking. . .
But if he had it to do over. . .
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:06:13 AM PST
by
cricket
(Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! JOIN THE DEMOCRATS. . .)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
What's the big mystery? Putin is former KGB and will always be the slime ball he proved himself to be while he was a communist! Now he calls himself a democratically elected leader...my foot. Russia is plagued by it's former KGB officers more so than any other Warsaw Pact country. Litvinenko was no angel, he was just as bad as the Kremlin crowd, he just switched parties and he paid for it. His switch was not directed by some altruistic and humanitarian reason, it was money and survival...but he clearly chose wrong!
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:09:15 AM PST
by
rxgalfl
To: Donna Lee Nardo
The Independent UK ran a report this morning that Livinenko may have poisoned himself to discredit Putin. Incredible/Their way of making nice. . .'to Russia, with love'. ..so to speak.
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:09:22 AM PST
by
cricket
(Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! JOIN THE DEMOCRATS. . .)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
big report today that Levinken confessed to being ordered to kill people, to hire hitmen, to jail people who dissented against Putin & to hire hitmen whom the russian government or anyone in power owed large sums of money to. http://sacredscoop.com
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:15:02 AM PST
by
CottShop
To: rxgalfl
His switch was not directed by some altruistic and humanitarian reason, it was money and survival. . . .I am wondering where you got this up-close and personal, truly 'inside story' from?
That aside; am on to Amazon to check availability of his book. . .hope it is still out there; and in English as well. ..surely. . .
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:15:11 AM PST
by
cricket
(Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! JOIN THE DEMOCRATS. . .)
To: cricket
. .I am wondering where you got this up-close and personal, truly 'inside story' from? That aside; am on to Amazon to check availability of his book. . .hope it is still out there; and in English as well. ..surely. . .
Are you really so naive to think that former KGB agent switched parties because of guilt? Let me see, you also think that former general of the Romanian Interior Ministry (equivalent to KGB), Ion Pacepa (who also has a book available on amazon.com called "Red Horizons") defected out of guilt? It's called survival and sensing when one's end is near, these people are trained to be one step ahead. I have absolutely no pity nor understanding for their previous jobs, the horror, pain and death they brought to so many and no book on amazon.com will wash that. The up-close and personal comes from having relatives decimated by these scumbags who today, because they chose to give information to the CIA, MI6 or Mosaad instead of the KGB, they have the audacity to think that's all in the past. I, sir, am not that naive.
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:23:45 AM PST
by
rxgalfl
To: Donna Lee Nardo
" the Russian ex-spy is believed to have been a double agent, who sold trade secrets to different parties "
Did he have the secret Coca Cola recipe too?
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:33:07 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: spanalot
Did he have the secret Coca Cola recipe too?
I think it was the Bush Baked Beans secret family recipe that he sold behind Duke's back. And Duke did it out of revenge!
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posted on
11/26/2006 9:39:03 AM PST
by
rxgalfl
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Murder can often look like suicide.
To: freekitty
Yeah - especially the Ukrainian friend of Yushchenko who committed suicide with two shots to the head.
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posted on
11/26/2006 10:42:01 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: Donna Lee Nardo; Tailgunner Joe; spanalot; Mazepa; Kozak; romanesq; M. Espinola; GSlob
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posted on
11/26/2006 12:23:26 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: A. Pole
Debka is as trustworthy as any kegebun. Maybe you could find even more sensational stuff in the "national enquirer" - I remember they once had it on their front page that the clintons were space aliens [btw, they were]. If debka says the sky is blue - go out and check for yourself. How was it put?
"govoryat, soseda tvoego arestovali -
potomu chto on na Beriyu pokhozh"
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posted on
11/26/2006 12:30:15 PM PST
by
GSlob
To: GSlob
Debka is as trustworthy as any kegebun. Maybe you could find even more sensational stuff in the "national enquirer" Debka? What is it? One of the web sites YOU visit?
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posted on
11/26/2006 12:32:01 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: A. Pole
Debka is the source for this thread.
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posted on
11/26/2006 12:35:01 PM PST
by
GSlob
To: Williams
Putin said it was a natural or accidental death. Who wouldn't believe a nice guy like Pooty?
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posted on
11/26/2006 12:47:28 PM PST
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
To: rxgalfl
Are you really so naive to think that former KGB agent switched parties because of guilt? I never went 'there'. Have no clue what his motivations were. Only can 'assume'; suspect or gather from what I read and that is, he died an 'enemy of the Russia'. And I am interested in his written disclosures that made him so. (perhaps a cover as well?)
Life of a spy, no doubt; is filled with more than a few convolutions. And for a Russian spy; we could add a few more. . .but, whatever. . .am inclined to believe his final words; and that he most likely got it right as to the 'who' behind his death; and the why behind it.
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posted on
11/26/2006 1:16:47 PM PST
by
cricket
(Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .SAVE THE TERRORISTS! JOIN THE DEMOCRATS. . .)
To: cricket
he most likely got it right as to the 'who' behind his death Or maybe not.
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posted on
11/26/2006 1:22:06 PM PST
by
A. Pole
(Hush Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Who killed Litvinenko?
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posted on
11/26/2006 1:44:59 PM PST
by
Bon mots
To: Donna Lee Nardo
The guy was GRU. Communism is alive and well in eastern Europe.
To: Gideon Reader
The first choice was duct taping his mouth, hands and feet,shooting himself in the back of the head twice, disposing of the silenced pistol, and placing his own body in the trunk of a rental car and leaving it at the airport. You owe me a new keyboard!!
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posted on
11/26/2006 2:28:35 PM PST
by
Yaelle
To: Donna Lee Nardo
I was posting a link on the WT thread, when I saw your name.
Did you see the articles that I posted this afternoon, more and more coming out on this.
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posted on
11/26/2006 6:01:32 PM PST
by
nw_arizona_granny
(Time for the world to wake up and face the fact that there is a war going on, it is world wide!)
To: Williams
Was just reading a story that police are investigating this as a possible suicide. Suicide? Why would a man intentionally swallow an extremely rare, deadly poison that causes him a slow agoinizing death over a period of more than two weeks? And then accuse the Russians of doing him in?
We haven't found the answer yet, but I think we can rule out suicide.
To: cricket
Does his end surprise you? It sure doesn't surprise me and as far as I am concerned, they can all poison each other until the very good end. Millions of Russians, Polish, Hungarians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Checzs, Slovaks, Ukrainians and so many more I won't be able to list them all DIED because of people like Litvinenko, Pacepa, Putin and so many others who today they try to claim remorse and a new leaf being turned.
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posted on
11/26/2006 6:44:21 PM PST
by
rxgalfl
To: Zack Nguyen
I read it would kill you within hours. Why would anyone commit suicide? Why do we always assume everyone else operates with our personal logic? I didn't say he committed suicide but it is a possibility.
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posted on
11/26/2006 6:59:00 PM PST
by
Williams
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Debka was mean to my mother once ....I dont like her
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posted on
11/26/2006 7:00:54 PM PST
by
woofie
(creativity is destructive)
To: rxgalfl
No; I am not surprised. People often die by the sword they lived by. As to the evil you address; there is none greater. Unfortunately, there are always those who rise to embrace that evil and perpetuate it. Our enemies of the present are 'informed' by the same inferior principle as enemies past. Everything changes/nothing changes. . .
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posted on
11/27/2006 5:10:00 AM PST
by
cricket
To: woofie
Smiling...You earned a big gold star.
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:36:36 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: Sword_Svalbardt
Some experts say the GRU is akin to our DIA.
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:41:10 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: GSlob
Debka plays a crucial role in the scheme of things. We just don't always recognize their sources' agenda for what it is at the time certain pieces run.
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:48:56 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: nw_arizona_granny
I haven't been able to read through most pings just yet. Perhaps tomorrow early morning or later tonight.
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:50:18 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Couldn't "they" have managed to have the poor soul shoot himself in the back of the head 2 or 3 times to make it appear more like a suicide? (sarcasm/)
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:51:23 AM PST
by
zerosix
To: Donna Lee Nardo
Couldn't "they" have managed to have the poor soul shoot himself in the back of the head 2 or 3 times to make it appear more like a suicide? (sarcasm/)
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:51:26 AM PST
by
zerosix
To: Bon mots
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:54:42 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: zerosix
No. Unfortunately, Russia has not yet perfected the techniques mastered by the Clintons in the Webster Hubbell and Ron Brown affairs.
It's only fair that we give them more practice time.
I better sign off now before I post more comments that will get me into even more trouble.
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posted on
11/28/2006 8:58:28 AM PST
by
Donna Lee Nardo
(DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
To: Donna Lee Nardo
I was going to make some of the same Clinton "unfortunates" such as the boys who "killed" themselves by laying on some railroad tracks.
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posted on
11/28/2006 9:17:10 AM PST
by
zerosix
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