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Who Killed Litvinenko? - Try asking Vladimir Putin
The Wall Street Journal ^ | November 27, 2006 | David Satter

Posted on 11/27/2006 12:33:08 AM PST by Zakeet

MOSCOW--Until a week ago, Alexander Litvinenko, a former colonel in the Russian Federal Security Service, the FSB, was virtually unknown outside the murky world of Russian intelligence. With his death in London from a massive dose of the radioactive element polonium 210, however, his fate may lead to a fundamentally different relationship between Russia and the West.

Beginning with the Yeltsin era, two U.S. administrations have muted their criticism of Russia. This was the case even in the face of a series of political murders in Russia. But if Litvinenko, a British subject, was murdered by Russian intelligence on British soil, self-censorship is no longer an option. Unless we want to give the Putin regime carte blanche to dispose of its enemies on our soil, we now have no choice but to react.

Russian television has given an explanation for the murder of Litvinenko as surrealistic as any offered by the Soviets during the Cold War. It attributed his death to intrigues in the entourage of the exiled Russian oligarch, Boris Berezovsky. An announcer on the evening news said Litvinenko was "a pawn in a game whose significance he did not understand."

Mr. Berezovsky, however, had no reason to kill Litvinenko, whose views he shared and whom he had helped since his arrival in the U.K. in 2000. In November 1998, Litvinenko revealed a plot to kill Mr. Berezovsky who, at the time, was the deputy head of the Russian security council. The evidence points instead to Litvinenko having been murdered by the FSB, which, together with the other "force ministries," has become the dominant political force in Russia today.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alexanderlitvinenko; bellpottinger; goldfarb; litvinenko; murder; russia; soros; spy
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Mr. Satter is affiliated with the Hoover Institution, the Hudson Institute and Johns Hopkins.
1 posted on 11/27/2006 12:33:13 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

...and should avoid sushi bars in the future!


2 posted on 11/27/2006 12:42:10 AM PST by gr8eman (Everybody is a rocket scientist...until launch day!)
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To: Zakeet

A rat is a rat. Putin never was anything but a staunch
commie. Glad we've a new congress that will stand
up to this bully!


3 posted on 11/27/2006 12:47:17 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: Zakeet
Who?


4 posted on 11/27/2006 12:50:52 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: ChiMark

You are kidding I hope?
You can't expect this congress to stand up to anything.


5 posted on 11/27/2006 3:18:54 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Zakeet

Mr. Berezovsky, however, had no reason to kill Litvinenko, whose views he shared and whom he had helped since his arrival in the U.K. in 2000. ==

Berezovskii has all reasons to kill Litvimemnko just to implacate And frame Russia and Putin. Rassia wanted him for many crimes during Yeltsin times. He knows it and this scandals may help his cause against extradiction to Russia.

After all notice that those killing of Politkovskaya and Litvinenko happened just during Putin vists in Eu? Why it didn't happen during his visit to Asia recently?

You should go after those who had motives. It is not Putin because his approval rate in Russia is near 75%.


6 posted on 11/27/2006 4:00:49 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: ChiMark

I think you forgot the /s switch.


7 posted on 11/27/2006 4:56:27 AM PST by SargeK
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To: RusIvan
Berezovskii has all reasons to kill Litvimemnko just to implicate And frame Russia and Putin

I keep hearing this, but I don't get it. Putin will suffer nothing from this. The West will do nothing. I think it is more likely that Putin intends to become a dictator. Time will tell. If that is the case, this is exactly what one would expect. He sends a very obvious public message that anyone who challenges him will die. Nobody is safe anywhere in the world.

8 posted on 11/27/2006 5:09:10 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: outofstyle; RusIvan; Romanov
It amazes me that the Russophobes hatred will not allow even the remote possibility that someone else might be guilty of the murder. They are totally ignorant to the identity of the Godfather of the Kremlin, and the evil of this person has committed. Hmmmm, but then their ignorance is willed.
9 posted on 11/27/2006 5:22:43 AM PST by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: outofstyle
He sends a very obvious public message that anyone who challenges him will die. Nobody is safe anywhere in the world.

You must be a very brave man :)

10 posted on 11/27/2006 5:36:45 AM PST by A. Pole (Russian proverb: "All are not cooks that walk with long knives")
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To: RusIvan
"It is not Putin because his approval rate in Russia is near 75%."

And Stalin's was, what, 95%? Higher? Lenin's was easily as high. Heck, wasn't it under Brezhnev's administration that there was no crime at all?

Yeah, Soviet Russian leaders never overstate their popularity.

11 posted on 11/27/2006 5:41:01 AM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Little Pig

"It is not Putin because his approval rate in Russia is near 75%."
And Stalin's was, what, 95%?==

Putin' rate is from the popular opinion research and polls. It calculated with same technology as Bush approval rate.


12 posted on 11/27/2006 6:26:15 AM PST by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: GarySpFc
It amazes me that the Russophobes hatred will not allow...

I'm not a Russophobe. It was my great hope that Putin would be our allie and promote liberty and democracy in his country. However, his actions suggest to me that he wants to recreate the empire. Are you pleased with his actions regarding Iraq, Iran and North Korea? He has chosen to compete, rather than cooperate with us. Maybe I am wrong and I am just misinterpreting his actions. If so, it is not because of Russophobia. Attempting to invalidate an opinion by using terms like Russophopia, homophobia, racist, sexist etc. is weak.

13 posted on 11/27/2006 7:20:37 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: RusIvan
>>>>>>>>You should go after those who had motives. It is not Putin because his approval rate in Russia is near 75%.<<<<

Goldfinger.


14 posted on 11/27/2006 8:00:10 AM PST by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: Zakeet
>>>>>>Mr. Satter is affiliated with the Hoover Institution, the Hudson Institute and Johns Hopkins<<<<<<

He for sure knows who George Soros is and what he does for living.

A masterful PR campaign by Bell Pottinger Communications.

15 posted on 11/27/2006 8:10:54 AM PST by DTA (Mr. President, Condy is asleep at the wheel !)
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To: Bon mots
Somebody's not too thrilled.


16 posted on 11/27/2006 5:22:53 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: theprodigy; Joe Boucher; Little Pig; ChiMark; george76; Tailgunner Joe; sergey1973; Bon mots; ...
"...the death of a prominent journalist (Politkovskaya) and a former FSB agent who wrote some anti-Putin books (that nobody believed anyway)."

Mr. Comrade "theprodigy" what other FR name were slithering under posting pro-Kremlin disinformation prior to this new FR name?

"I am inclined to believe that these killings are either the work of Chechens or Berezovsky, or maybe some other party interested in discrediting the current Russian government."

"The Comrade Club" strikes again!

Vlad's new method!

18 posted on 12/07/2006 1:15:17 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: M. Espinola
Rule # 1.: Not a single word passing the lips of a kegebun can be trusted. This includes the pauses they have to make to catch their breath or to swallow the accumulated saliva - these pauses cannot be trusted either.
Rule # 2.: Not a single constructive deed by a kegebun [in their destructive capacities one could place full faith] can be trusted either. For example, if a kegebun malingers a suicide, one is to mistrust it and ought to make sure by double tapping the malingerer in the head.
Rule # 3.: For the purposes of Rules 1 and 2 the kegebuns are those directly involved with the infamous organization, its predecessors, successors, creditors, debtors and assignees [collectively, "KGB"], and anyone identifying with, or pushing, the agenda of the said organization.
19 posted on 12/07/2006 5:52:52 AM PST by GSlob
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To: M. Espinola; Little Pig

Putin may go for 100 percent voter approval...like Saddam did.


/s


20 posted on 12/07/2006 5:53:44 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

21 posted on 12/07/2006 6:06:40 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76; M. Espinola; GSlob; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik

22 posted on 12/07/2006 8:47:31 AM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: theprodigy

Post # 19. Rule #3, then Rule # 1.


24 posted on 12/07/2006 9:11:03 AM PST by GSlob
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To: theprodigy

Sure Comrade, whatever you print nobody is buying.


25 posted on 12/07/2006 9:23:02 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: PhilDragoo

"Sorta" is right :)


26 posted on 12/07/2006 9:23:55 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: GSlob
The kegebun lurking on this thread is following the official rules, but he sounds so much like another well known Comrade.
27 posted on 12/07/2006 9:36:05 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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29 posted on 12/07/2006 9:37:37 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: GSlob

LMAO! Yep.


30 posted on 12/07/2006 9:38:18 AM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: theprodigy

The only 'Comrade' in this joint - is you, Gar.


31 posted on 12/07/2006 9:41:12 AM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Nice work !


32 posted on 12/07/2006 9:41:15 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: M. Espinola

33 posted on 12/07/2006 9:42:02 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: theprodigy

Do you really need to do your kegebuchij strip-tease in public? Noone needs to show how bad the kegebuns are, since this had been known from the day one, even before there was a KGB. KGB is merely a very fitting symbol, essence and expression of a KGB-like ["kegebuchej"] civilization.


34 posted on 12/07/2006 9:49:22 AM PST by GSlob
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To: MARKUSPRIME
To illustrate the logic involved, there was an old joke, translated here in the PC-pu[t]rified form: two competing merchants [let us call them X and Y] meet on the road. X thinks "well, if he asks me where I'm going, I should not tell him the truth that I'm going to A, and should instead say that I'm going to B. But since he would not believe me, I am to say that I am going to A". Well, they meet, exchange greetings, and merchant Y asks, "well, and where are you going?"
-"To A"
-"You are lying in your teeth, old X, you ARE going to A".
37 posted on 12/07/2006 11:25:16 AM PST by GSlob
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To: M. Espinola; theprodigy

Hmmmmmmm...
Our new "comrade" has some interesting postings.


Do you attract this sort often?
I had to LOL at your graphic. ;o)


38 posted on 12/07/2006 11:40:42 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: theprodigy

It is as clear as daylight, except to those who resolutely refuse to see.


41 posted on 12/07/2006 3:33:57 PM PST by GSlob
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To: dixiechick2000
Our new "comrade" sounds so much like another very well known "comrade" :)

Young "comrades" in training, today in Russia.

Young admirers of Lavrenty Beria, director of the Soviet secret police who was instrumental in carrying out the purges under Joseph Stalin, display communist symbols in Volgograd. Vladimir Filonov, photographer.

43 posted on 12/07/2006 3:41:09 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: theprodigy
...wrote some anti-Putin books (that nobody believed anyway).

FSB agents were caught preparing explosives in a building by the police. They were whisked away by the FSB with the explanation it was an exercise. No more building were blown up after that "exercise".

Millions of people believed that Putin and the FSB were responsible for all those explosions.

44 posted on 12/07/2006 4:00:00 PM PST by Cardhu
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To: Zakeet

Many things just don't add up in this Litvinenko mess. I don't like that his wife and aide appeared in a car with the Chechen "Foreign Minister" (so referred to by the Brit media--no Chechnya is NOT a nation), then we hear he converted to Islam and wanted a Muslim burial. Wasn't it the Chechens who murdered scores of children at Beslan? And Litvinenko was in league with them? Hardly my idea of a heroic figure.


46 posted on 12/07/2006 4:20:57 PM PST by montag813
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To: theprodigy
Did you read that in "Blowing Up Russia" by Litvinenko?

That was in just about every newspaper in the world at the time. If you did not see it you are not very well informed on the subjec. Check it out, even Wikapedia has it too:

"...More disturbing, FSB agents were actually caught planting a bomb in the basement of a fifth building in the city of Ryazan. After they were arrested by local authorities, Nikolai Patrushev, the head of the FSB, offered the bizarre explanation that the bomb had been planted by the FSB as part of a training exercise to test the residents’ “vigilance.”

48 posted on 12/07/2006 5:00:51 PM PST by Cardhu
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To: theprodigy; montag813

On March 27, 2000, Kheda Kungaeva, an eighteen-year-old woman, was taken from her home in Chechnya, beaten, raped, and murdered. (1) On February 28, 2001, the Rostov District Military Court will try Col. Yuri Budanov for Kungaeva's murder. It is the first and only case in which Russian authorities promptly and publicly acknowledged a crime, perpetrated by Russian federal forces against civilians in Chechnya, that constitutes a gross violation of international humanitarian and human rights law. (2)

The military has portrayed Budanov's behavior as an exceptional example of wanton criminality by a serviceman. (3) However, the abduction, beating, rape, and murder of Kungaeva reflect a pattern of violations perpetrated by federal forces that has been exhaustively documented by Human Rights Watch and other nongovernmental organizations.

You can read all about Col. Budanov and the number of Russians who were killed to protect him from justice.

Got to go now.


50 posted on 12/07/2006 5:32:21 PM PST by Cardhu
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