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W library in record book ($500M center would be priciest for a Prez)
New York Daily News ^ | November 27, 2006 | THOMAS M. DeFRANK

Posted on 11/27/2006 2:23:56 AM PST by RWR8189

WASHINGTON - He may be a certified lame duck now, but President Bush and his truest believers are about to launch their final campaign - an eye-popping, half-billion-dollar drive for the Bush presidential library. Eager to begin refurbishing his tattered legacy, the President hopes to raise $500 million to build his library and a think tank at Southern Methodist University in Dallas. Bush lived in Dallas until he was elected governor of Texas in 1995.

Bush sources with direct knowledge of library plans told the Daily News that SMU and Bush fund-raisers hope to get half of the half billion from what they call "megadonations" of $10 million to $20 million a pop.

Bush loyalists have already identified wealthy heiresses, Arab nations and captains of industry as potential "mega" donors and are pressing for a formal site announcement - now expected early in the new year.

"You can't ask people in Dallas for $20 million until they can be sure the library won't be in Waco," one Bush source noted.

The rest of the cash will come from donors willing to pony up $25,000 to $5 million.

"It's a stretch," said another source briefed on the plans. "It's so much bigger than anything that's been tried before. But the more you have, the more influence [on history] you can exert."

The half-billion target is double what Bush raised for his 2004 reelection and dwarfs the funding of other presidential libraries. But Bush partisans are determined to have a massive pile of endowment cash to spread the gospel of a presidency that for now gets poor marks from many scholars and a majority of Americans.

The legacy-polishing centerpiece is an institute, which several Bush insiders called the Institute for Democracy. Patterned after Stanford University's Hoover Institution, Bush's institute will hire conservative scholars and "give them money to write papers and books favorable to the President's policies," one Bush insider said.

Presidential libraries are run by the National Archives and Records Administration, but building costs must come from private donations. Bells and whistles, like an institute or an academic program like Bush's father's public service school at Texas A&M, are also extras.

The News reported in March 2005 that the library will be at SMU, where First Lady Laura Bush is an alumna and sits on the board of trustees. But a formal announcement has been delayed by a legal dispute over some of the land where the library complex will be built.

It remains to be seen whether Bush's low standing in the polls and his rejection by voters in the midterm elections will make it harder to raise funds. That was true for former President Jimmy Carter, who struggled to fund his library center after being defeated by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

But planners believe hometown and Texas pride will outweigh any drag from Bush's diminished political fortunes. "The money will be there," a senior Bush adviser said. "The President is very popular in Dallas and the library will be great for the city and SMU."

There's another major inducement for potential donors: Their names aren't required to be made public.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bush43; bushhatersunite; bushlibrary; dontbesogullible; library; mediaexageration; medialies; presidentiallibrary; smu; texas; thinktank; wastedmoney
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1 posted on 11/27/2006 2:23:58 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Building a presidential library with any Arab money is sickening. If it can't be built with American money, don't build it.


2 posted on 11/27/2006 2:49:45 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: backtothestreets
I agree. But even better why not give the money to the deficit that he made. That would cut it down a bit. We would only have 9.5 trillion owed instead of 10 trillion. What a legacy that would be. /sarc.
3 posted on 11/27/2006 2:52:00 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: RWR8189
LOL, the libs are already trying to explain away the legacy that is already being written. Like it or not (and there are many on this board pretending to be "conservatives" who won't like it) the man is already a legand. His ratings are down but considering the constant effort of the media it's amazing that his ratings are as high as they are.

As to the deficit, anyone with an IQ above room temperature will be able to figure out that....terrorist attack plus war equals trouble and that congress controls the purse strings.

Yep, this president is going to be a hero whether those who hate him like it or not.

4 posted on 11/27/2006 2:58:44 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: backtothestreets

Where were you when Clinton's library was being built?


5 posted on 11/27/2006 3:09:00 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: flynmudd
"Where were you when Clinton's library was being built? "

I don't recall, but if foreign money was used to build it, it is every bit as sickening.
6 posted on 11/27/2006 3:15:00 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: backtothestreets

I agree. Unfortunately that's how it gets done. Payback time for protecting their @ss.


7 posted on 11/27/2006 3:18:00 AM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: McGavin999
"As to the deficit, anyone with an IQ above room temperature will be able to figure out that....terrorist attack plus war equals trouble and that congress controls the purse strings."

Apparently Congress never allocated a buck for even a cheap pen made in China the President could have used to veto the appropriation bills they passed. Worse yet, he never thought to buy a veto pen with his own money. Oh wait! My mistake. He signed every one of the appropriation bills. Guess he had a pen afterall.
8 posted on 11/27/2006 3:24:34 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: backtothestreets

Good one! Blackbird.


9 posted on 11/27/2006 3:30:08 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Stay out of the Bushes, unless you're RINO hunting!)
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To: napscoordinator

$500 million, not billion FRiend.


10 posted on 11/27/2006 3:30:11 AM PST by RWR8189 (Support the Republican Study Committee)
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To: RWR8189
Another ex-president pissing contest. Shameful.

I wonder how much Hillary will get these morons to spend on hers?

11 posted on 11/27/2006 3:35:00 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: McGavin999; backtothestreets
As to the deficit, anyone with an IQ above room temperature will be able to figure out that....terrorist attack plus war equals trouble and that congress controls the purse strings.

Is it really cold in your room?

12 posted on 11/27/2006 3:39:44 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

Nope, it isn't. Have you bothered to read the constitution?


13 posted on 11/27/2006 3:44:06 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: McGavin999
Legacy? It's mixed to be sure. Yes, the economic damage of 9/11 was amazingly minimized but he's been a wild spender, given up on major issues like social security, exploded the size of mediscare, expanded federal gov't, tried to push amnesty, left the borders open, abdicated his responsibility to veto, harmed the GOP more than helped it ... the legacy of Iraq is still 10, 20 maybe 50 years off. Sure, the Butcher of Baghdad is set for execution, his homicidal sons are dead... but it's far from a done deal. Russian's looking suspicious, Iran is crazy as ever and North Korea gives one cause for concern.

Let's not count those chickens before they hatch.

14 posted on 11/27/2006 3:44:12 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: McGavin999

Have you? There's this thing called a veto... might want to read about it. You and W.


15 posted on 11/27/2006 3:45:43 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey
They are finding the prescription drug plan is not nearly as expensive as they thought. When they finally figure out that paying for prescription drugs is a LOT less expensive than paying the for the hospital stays it will be even cheaper.

I remember people saying Reagan was responsible for huge deficits as well, of course that money ended up bringing down communism in the USSR. I figure that was a pretty good investment. It will be the same for Islamofacism.

Yes, you're right, it's not yet all written, but North Korea has been on the burner for well over a decade and the same with Iran. Actually, Iran has been a growing problem since Carter.

16 posted on 11/27/2006 3:49:20 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: newzjunkey

Yes, I have read it. Congress holds the purse strings and makes the laws. Since the people ELECTED congress and the senate to do that job a veto should only be used rarely especially if the congress and senate are of the same party as the elected president.


17 posted on 11/27/2006 3:51:29 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: RWR8189
Only Clintoon is obsessed with his legassy.
18 posted on 11/27/2006 3:52:12 AM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: backtothestreets

So, you think it's OK that the people elected a republcan congress and a republican senate and expect a republican president to veto them? How about the congress do it's job? The only time there should be veto threats is if the congress and senate are in the hands of the opposition party.


19 posted on 11/27/2006 3:54:20 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: RWR8189
"Eager to begin refurbishing his tattered legacy, "


"Tattered legacy"?
It's exactly because of loony left nonsense like this, that the Daily News is now getting clobbered in the circulation wars by the conservative New York Post, even in a liberal place New York City. This is from just a few years ago when the Daily News used to sell far more than the New York Post.
Maybe the Daily News should be worrying more about their tattered circulation, and shredded reputation, than about President Bush's legacy.
20 posted on 11/27/2006 3:55:34 AM PST by ShawTaylor
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To: McGavin999
Table 1: Real Discretionary Outlays by Agency (millions)
Real Spending Percent Increases
Department 1993 1997 2001 2005 Clinton I Clinton II Bush I
Department of Agriculture 17,011 16,154 17,206 18,711 -5.0% 6.5% 8.8%
Department of Commerce 3,412 4,206 4,964 5,419 23.3% 18.0% 9.2%
Department of Education 27,191 25,569 34,983 50,623 -6.0% 36.8% 44.7%
Department of Energy 21,195 18,144 18,018 21,582 -14.4% -0.7% 19.8%
Department of Health and Human Services 32,637 34,801 45,824 61,383 6.6% 31.7% 34.0%
Department of Housing and Urban Development 27,780 32,720 32,205 36,775 17.8% -1.6% 14.2%
Department of Justice 9,974 13,253 17,264 17,274 32.9% 30.3% 0.1%
Department of Labor 11,180 10,419 10,169 10,290 -6.8% -2.4% 1.2%
Department of State 7,192 5,952 6,747 9,431 -17.2% 13.3% 39.8%
Department of Transportation 34,922 36,389 44,563 52,126 4.2% 22.5% 17.0%
Environmental Protection Agency 7,191 6,895 7,411 7,577 -4.1% 7.5% 2.2%
Department of the Interior 8,349 7,584 8,759 9,984 -9.2% 15.5% 14.0%
Department of Homeland Security 10,908 11,423 14,841 27,802 4.7% 29.9% 87.3%

Comments:

Table 2: Real Discretionary Budget Authority by Agency (millions)

Percent Increases
Department 1993 1997 2001 2005 Clinton I Clinton II Bush I
Department of Agriculture 18,245 16,529 18,763 17,158 -9.4% 13.5% -8.6%
Department of Commerce 3,790 4,059 4,971 5,147 7.1% 22.5% 3.5%
Department of Education 28,065 28,298 39,115 51,628 0.8% 38.2% 32.0%
Department of Energy 22,653 17,551 19,537 21,223 -22.5% 11.3% 8.6%
Department of Health and Human Services 35,455 36,543 52,818 61,369 3.1% 44.5% 16.2%
Department of Housing and Urban Development 28,438 15,980 27,659 28,150 -43.8% 73.1% 1.8%
Department of Justice 10,208 15,723 17,947 16,881 54.0% 14.1% -5.9%
Department of Labor 11,712 10,889 11,664 10,697 -7.0% 7.1% -8.3%
Department of State 7,288 5,875 7,583 9,237 -19.4% 29.1% 21.8%
Department of Transportation 12,272 11,007 14,320 12,019 -10.3% 30.1% -16.1%
Environmental Protection Agency 8,146 7,224 7,642 6,986 -11.3% 5.8% -8.6%
Department of the Interior 8,292 7,784 10,015 9,768 -6.1% 28.7% -2.5%
Department of Homeland Security 10,601 14,203 15,653 25,495 34.0% 10.2% 62.9%

From here.

Technically Bush cut spending in five departments based on authority. But. Actual spending was up in all 13. So. Bush's legacy about spending is "Aw, just let them do it."

Actually Bush's legacy will be this:

(From Bush's press conference after the Nov. 11th elections.) "And so he and I both agreed in our meeting yesterday that it was appropriate that I accept his resignation. And so the decision was made -- actually, I thought we were going to do fine yesterday. Shows what I know. But I thought we were going to be fine in the election. My point to you is, is that, win or lose, Bob Gates was going to become the nominee."

"Shows what I know".

Sounds about right for the Bush legacy.

21 posted on 11/27/2006 4:04:40 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr

Yeah, and.......? What part of CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS don't you get? Funny, the rest of America understood that concept, that's why they voted the bums out.


22 posted on 11/27/2006 4:29:02 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: raybbr

Relax, in a couple months it'll be safe to blame Pelosi.


23 posted on 11/27/2006 4:30:39 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: backtothestreets

You dont recall? dont make me laugh...


24 posted on 11/27/2006 4:33:58 AM PST by woofie (creativity is destructive)
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To: McGavin999
Yeah, and.......? What part of CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS don't you get? Funny, the rest of America understood that concept, that's why they voted the bums out.

YEAH and what part of Bush never demanded budget cuts don't you get?

When, in Bush's last six years did he mount a campaign to cut the budget?

25 posted on 11/27/2006 4:38:00 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: backtothestreets
"If it can't be built with American money, don't build it."

Better yet--don't build it with anybody's money, and close all the rest of the damned "library pyramids". "Presidential Library" my a**.

26 posted on 11/27/2006 4:40:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: RWR8189
W library in record book ($500M center would be priciest for a Prez)

Big whoo!

W's library would be the priciest...until the library for the 44th president is built.

27 posted on 11/27/2006 4:42:42 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: raybbr

It appears you think you live in a monarchy instead of a republic. The days of kings in the US went away a long time ago.


28 posted on 11/27/2006 5:06:20 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: McGavin999
It appears you think you live in a monarchy instead of a republic. The days of kings in the US went away a long time ago.

What on earth is that supposed to mean? Does Congress have the only say in the budget? Is the president merely a eunuch when it comes to fiscal policy? Bush is no king but he's supposed to set the budget. He makes the budget requests and congress either funds it or doesn't.

Maybe you need a remedial course in the Constitution.

29 posted on 11/27/2006 5:17:31 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: RWR8189

Tattered legacy???? Where does somebody get this?


30 posted on 11/27/2006 5:19:04 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: McGavin999

Nobody liked Lincoln in his lifetime either. Nobody.

I'd like to see the bulk of the W library be online.

But do you know where it should be? Not in Texas. In NYC.


31 posted on 11/27/2006 5:21:16 AM PST by AmishDude (Mark Steyn is my hero.)
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But do you know where it should be? Not in Texas. In NYC.

Why NY?

32 posted on 11/27/2006 5:22:28 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: newzjunkey

Repair his tattered legacy....did you hear that ONCE when Clinton's library was being built?


33 posted on 11/27/2006 5:22:57 AM PST by Hildy (RUDY GUILIANI FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008)
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To: raybbr
"Is it really cold in your room?"

No, it's actually quite comfortable. I'm all the more comfortable and also rather pleased knowing deficits and discretionary spending are not the same.
34 posted on 11/27/2006 5:23:41 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: raybbr
Why NY?

The statue of him with the megaphone would have much less impact at SMU.

35 posted on 11/27/2006 5:25:27 AM PST by AmishDude (Mark Steyn is my hero.)
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To: napscoordinator
We would only have 9.5 trillion owed instead of 10 trillion.

Not quite. You flunked math today.

36 posted on 11/27/2006 5:28:39 AM PST by elli1
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To: newzjunkey
Have you? There's this thing called a veto... might want to read about it. You and W.

So, when Congress attaches unnecessary spending to very necessary spending in support of the war, you favor cutting off funds to support the troops in harms' way, and forcing the President to take all of the heat for it.

37 posted on 11/27/2006 5:33:43 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Republicans are told to court "the base," which translates to Arabic as "al-Qaeda.")
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To: napscoordinator; backtothestreets
We would only have 9.5 trillion owed instead of 10 trillion. What a legacy that would be. /sarc.

You've got the decimals in the wrong place. He's trying to raise $500 not $500 billion. That amount would reduce the from $10 trillion to $9.9995 trillion.

38 posted on 11/27/2006 5:41:23 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: napscoordinator; backtothestreets
We would only have 9.5 trillion owed instead of 10 trillion. What a legacy that would be. /sarc.

You've got the decimals in the wrong place. He's trying to raise $500 not $500 billion. That amount would reduce the debt from $10 trillion to $9.9995 trillion.

39 posted on 11/27/2006 5:41:47 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: AmishDude

You are probably right. Remember the total shock of the media when Reagan's funeral procession passed in California (one of the most liberal states in the union) and all those cars pulled over the people got out? The media was so sure they had destroyed his legacy too.


40 posted on 11/27/2006 5:43:24 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: backtothestreets
No, it's actually quite comfortable. I'm all the more comfortable and also rather pleased knowing deficits and discretionary spending are not the same.

I had posted that chart to support your posts. I am on your side regarding Bush's unrepentant spending.

41 posted on 11/27/2006 5:44:23 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: McGavin999
"So, you think it's OK that the people elected a republcan congress and a republican senate and expect a republican president to veto them? How about the congress do it's job?"

As a matter of fact, I not only believe it OK, but admirable when a person has the courage, conviction, and strength of character to stand against those nearest to himself when they are doing something wrong. That's what leadership is. It has been quite commonplace in the history of our nation for presidents to veto legislation despite their own party controlling both house of Congress.
42 posted on 11/27/2006 5:45:53 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: backtothestreets

Ah, so you think the president should disregard the will of the people when it comes to the duty assigned to congress by the constitution?


43 posted on 11/27/2006 5:48:53 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: backtothestreets
You know, I seem to recall all kinds of people going off the deep end about the deficits caused by Reagan too.

Sure, we could have eliminated most of the deficit by telling New York they have to fix their own hole, and tell the airlines that Americans would rather walk than have to subsidise the airlines. We also could have avoided all that military spending too just by coming up with some kind of theory about fuel lines or something causing those "accidents" at the WTC.

44 posted on 11/27/2006 5:52:01 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"Better yet--don't build it with anybody's money, and close all the rest of the damned "library pyramids". "Presidential Library" my a**. "

I'm with you! Unfortunately, most people in our nation, including "conservatives", have a difficult time separating themselves from anything begun by FDR.
45 posted on 11/27/2006 5:59:17 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: raybbr

Sorry! My bad!


46 posted on 11/27/2006 6:05:47 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: RWR8189

Will W's library be built by ILLEGAL aliens - building presidential libraries no American is willing to build??


47 posted on 11/27/2006 6:14:59 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: McGavin999
"Ah, so you think the president should disregard the will of the people when it comes to the duty assigned to congress by the constitution?"

Dang right I do, and apparently the framers of the Constitution felt the same way or they wouldn't have made accommodations for the president, beginning with George Washington, to veto bills passed by Congress.

You find no provision in U.S. Const., Article I, Section 7, stating presidents should neglect this responsibility when their pals control both houses of Congress.
48 posted on 11/27/2006 6:16:14 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: backtothestreets
No, I think the people have an opportunity to change congress every two years. The fact that the people didn't do that until 2006 probably told Dubya that they were doing their constituants will. Considering he needed the support of congress in order to fight the WOT, I think he did what he thought was best, just as Reagan did what HE thought was best when he upped the military budget during his tenure.

Are you too young to remember all the screaming and moaning about the deficits during the Reagan administration?

49 posted on 11/27/2006 6:20:07 AM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: McGavin999

"Yeah, and.......? What part of CONGRESS HOLDS THE PURSE STRINGS don't you get? "

Doesn't the President have a little thing called a veto?


50 posted on 11/27/2006 6:20:18 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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