Posted on 11/28/2006 6:31:45 AM PST by .cnI redruM
Not according to Binnie Thompson (D-Miss). He seems quite steamed that an employer would actually care whether its employees had matching Social Security Numbers. It seems Congressman Thompson takes offence to the concept of verifying a perspective employee's Social Security Number.
In fact, he had the following to say when Cintas, a uniform manufacturing company, contemplated attempting to terminate employees with mismatched or unverifiable Social Security Numbers, he said the magic words.
"I am deeply troubled by Cintas' recent policy change regarding the Social Security Administration's 'no match' letters," Mr. Thompson said in the Nov. 2 letter. "It is my understanding that hundreds of Cintas' immigrant workers have received these letters. I am extremely concerned about any potentially discriminatory actions targeting this community." (28 Nov 06)
It reminds me of a very unfortunate situation that took place in my home state, Virginia. Here, several recent Muslim immigrants got Virginia Drivers' Licenses with no hassle whatsoever. They just walked right in to the DMV and were hooked up with little difficulty.
The only drawback to this happy tale of non-discriminatory customer service at its finest involved the fact that they were among the 9-11 hijackers.
Binnie Thompson will soon ascend to the Chair of The House Homeland Security Committee. He will do so partially because a lot conservatives stayed home to protest over our current administration's poor enforcement of immigration laws.
They really taught the GOP a lesson on this issue. Now, if we actually want to secure our borders, rather than just send messages and feel good, what do we do about Democrats like Binnie Thompson?
Well if the yahoo congressman from Mississippi would pony up the tens of thousands of $$$$ for federal fines that are imposed for keeping employees with bogus SS numbers then we could call it a day and all go home happy.
Soon enough, social security numbers will have no significance with respect to social security because social security won't exist. I bet the numbers continue on, though.
yes I do think we taught the GOP a lesson... Already Gingrich is making a comeback. I think they should actully listen to him this time and DO WHAT HE TAUGHT last time
This is not our fault. We did show up, & voted.
Imagine a day when you actually hold the elected office holders accountable, rather than blaming your neighbor.
We wouldn't want to discriminate against criminals, would we?
Hey yall. Come talk about our Delta genius over here.
Discrimination is good. the sooner we return to sane discrimination, the sooner we will be on the path away from destruction.
"Gosh, I wonder what Lou Dobbs thinks?"
Lou Dobbs and the wacks at CNN will go back to Clinton's America where everything was perfect in their world.
They've done their job and helped get the Rats back in power. They'll take a few months to regroup and then go on a full blitz for "her."
Cintas is owned by the employees. How can an Illegal Alien own a piece of the company?
How successful can you be while continuing to fight the last war? Get over it and get back to fighting the Dims.
> He could just go over to Congressman Jefferson's refrigerator, and pretend like he was getting a beer. <
Are you kidding? Bennie Thompson has his own refrigerator. And from what I hear, it's A LOT bigger than Congressman J's refrigerator!
I don't like the idea of using SSN's for identification purposes, but what else do we use? It's the only way to uniquely identify someone for credit reports, criminal records, and verifying legal status (if employers and gov't actually DID that...what a concept...)
The same way an illegal immigrant can own a home in America.
"Imagine a day when you actually hold the elected office holders accountable, rather than blaming your neighbor.'
Excellent point.
In Kentucky, they used to use your social security number as your driver's license number. When they issued my father a driver's license, they transposed a digit. He never told them of their error, because he believed that no state should ever be allowed to use the social security number in that way.
People did show up and vote.
And the majority voted for the Democrats.
The conservatives staying home is just another myth created by the media drumbeat.
Most people have a NAME. "I am not a number, I am a free man!"
There are very few instances where a universal ID would truly be useful. In most cases, the ID check is either a pointless formality, can be done with narrow information, or is demanded due to misguided policy. My natural gas provider need not know about my federal retirement plan; my employer need not know about my license to drive; my favorite bar need not see any personal paperwork when it's obvious I'm over 21 (pushing 40); etc.
Each agency/business can provide narrowly-applicable identification, and only in rare cases need that be backed up by other ID. People have names and addresses, which is enough for 99% of all ID checking - and most ID checking really isn't necessary anyway (no, it really isn't my employer's job to check citizenship - especially if Law Enforcement agents are explicitly prohibited from doing such checks).
The biggest problem with IDs is that eventually the paper ID becomes the entity in question, not the person. Use biometrics if solid ID is really required. SSNs, drivers licenses, etc. are all used mostly because they're sloppily convenient ways to give an illusion of security.
Might want to check the facts before you open your mouth - conservatives didnt stay home - quite the contrary - it was the independents that voted in huge numbers for dems - they are tired of the direction of the war (as told by the media). This was a referendum on the war all of the polling indicates this. Every ballot initiative which came down hard on illegals won big time. If you want to blame somebody then blame Bush and the RINO GOP for acting like wimps and not calling these people out when they had the chance. I was saying this 12 months ago - the GOP was gonna lose big time in 06. My predictions for 08 is that they will lose even bigger because they have learned nothing from this election.
There is very little difference, in the avg. person's mind, between the dems and the GOP - the GOP is going to be on the losing end until that changes.
Most of what you say makes sense...but I work in the mortgage business and know that if I pull credit for
Robert A. Smith at
123 Main St.
Cleveland, Ohio
without an SSN
I will get every damn Bob Smith in Ohio on that report...there has to be some way to differentiate. Even by address doesn't work when it's a Junior and Senior involved...and the internal databases just don't properly distinguish.
What about the idea of establishing a "credit ID" number that's only used for the major credit bureaus? When you decide to first apply for credit, they'll issue you a number that stays associated with all your credit?
That's what I've been saying...teaching the GOP a lesson amounted to a congress 10 times worse than what we had. Just wait until Bush tries to get another Supreme Court Justice through that mess...no more Roberts or Alito, that's for sure.
That was the original intent, but the law was quietly changed years ago.
Newt is right. Blaming the voters is rat/lib logic, they always find a way to see the victim as the perp and vice versa.
HA!!
OK. Eliminate Social Security.
ping
And the *insert dirty words here* IRS. We can pay our taxes at the cash register.
Are you kidding? If that were to happened many here would have nothing to post.
What is Binnie Thompson's IQ? Maybe 50? Or he is just off his meds?
don't waste your breath. the stay at home useful idiots are too busy screaming "la la la la la can't hear you la la la la" in denial.
The did teach a lesson. The MSM learned well there is a stay at home faction which can be fooled 100% of the time with a few pretty pictures on the TV.
I know the pain it gives you to have to admit that. You do have my sympathies. It is so unfortunate that the people who keep electing him do not understand that they are only perpetuating their 'down on the plantation' plight by doing so.
Stand strong my friend, this is going to be a painful 2 years for all of us. We will all have to band together to keep our wits about us.
I am a conservative that stayed home. The congress does not enforce the law, the president is responsible for that. If the republicans won't do the job they were hired to do I will not help rehire them just because they have a R next to their names.
Exactly. If a company needs to give out unique IDs to differentiate the Bob Smiths of the world (and to make sure there aren't two Stephan Quincy Xaviers), fine - do so ... but they still don't need to know my driver's ID or federal retirement plan data. Need harder ID than that? biometrics, or confirm face=name via other photo IDs as a one-time event where irrelevant data is not recorded (ex.: I'll show a passport to confirm the given name is attached to this face, but there's no need to record anything else from the passport).
Every business, agency, etc. can provide their own specialized IDs. That's fine. Just don't require an ID from another business or agency.
Irony: here in GA you need an ID card to vote. The elections office will give you a voter ID card - but only if you can somehow convince them you don't have any other form of ID! Ergo I _must_ show something completely unrelated to voting to prove ID ... exposing unrelated info - a 5th Amendment violation.
Seems we did effect the outcome. No so-called RINO pubbie is the leader now. So let GW sign an amnesty with the dems. That sure showed them when you voted for him. We sure showed those dems in Kaliforneea by voting for Ahrnold. What you all did was show them that alternating factions in power in a corrupt "Two-Party Cartel" gets most Americans nothing.
A date of birth and place of birth will pretty much narrow it down to the right Robert A. Smith. This is what we did before the SSN became the favored tool of big government in tracking us all.
Nope. It should, but in experience, it doesn't. Juniors and Seniors still get mixed up.
Of course, if the SSN is eliminated, credit databases would get cleaned up for accuracy since they wouldn't have that reference point and therefore the DOB would probably suffice.
Of course, the DOB isn't unique, it's still "possible" that two John Jones' were born in New York City on September 3, 1966.
No matter how bad the Republicans are on illegal immigratioon... the Democrats are much much worse
I'll concede that it is possible, but these exceptional cases are greatly outweighed by the misuse of SSN's and the problems such misuse spawn, including identity theft.
That's all true, but in my line of work I've had to resolve people's credit reports with same-name-different-person information on them, and it's usually the SSN that saves them. As I said though, right now creditors don't track DOB well since they have SSN's. If the SSN didn't exist, they'd track the DOB better.
"Well, we sure taught the GOP a lesson on immigration in Election 2006."
I take it by this statement you are saying that conservatives staying home cost us this election? Ill ask you the same question I ask every time I see such a claim. Post a link to the numbers proving it because Id like to see them.
Bttt!
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