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3-Star General Mike DeLong says intel shows Saddam moved WMD just before invasion
Inside CentCom ^ | 11-28-06 | Bill Thompson

Posted on 11/28/2006 7:11:13 PM PST by ikez78

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51 posted on 11/28/2006 8:33:00 PM PST by ikez78 (www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: NormsRevenge

We have Generals writing books? Wow. Does the left have anymore ammo?


52 posted on 11/28/2006 8:36:36 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: Killborn

Laurie Mylroie is perhaps the one exception. She is a former Clinton person -- among many other roles -- and she seems to get the short-shrift by the media anyway. Why? Because she is expert at detailing what went on in Iraq as far as WMDs. So the media treats her like a pariah of sorts.

Before we went into Iraq, she was a media darling though.

http://www.lauriemylroie.com/


53 posted on 11/28/2006 8:40:01 PM PST by Donna Lee Nardo (DEATH TO ISLAMIC TERRORISTS AND ANIMAL AND CHILD ABUSERS.)
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3-Star General Mike DeLong says intel shows Saddam moved WMD just before invasion

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54 posted on 11/28/2006 8:42:38 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: vaudine

It's always disheartening to hear other wise intelligent people echo DSM talking points. Goebbel's big lie in action.


55 posted on 11/28/2006 8:42:51 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: ikez78

Excellent interview!


Thank you for the post and ping!!


56 posted on 11/28/2006 8:43:07 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: Dan Evans

Why are Generals writing books? Think about it for a second or more? Did Chesty Puller write a book? Sorry I do not read books like these. Where is Singlaub's book? Where is Col. Howards?


57 posted on 11/28/2006 8:44:22 PM PST by Lumper20
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To: Dan Evans

Thanks for the review. Looks like a winner.


58 posted on 11/28/2006 8:45:12 PM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: Mo1

Wow...I always thought that could be the case


59 posted on 11/28/2006 8:50:24 PM PST by woofie (creativity is destructive)
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To: xzins

Not another bloody book!


60 posted on 11/28/2006 8:52:15 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

Yes it is. Sir John Gielgud.(RIP) He won the Oscar for best supporting actor in that film.
And that was one of my favorite lines in the movie. ;o)


61 posted on 11/28/2006 8:53:59 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: wodinoneeye

They already have the "blame Bush" options covered. If we are hit by another big attack it will be due to Bush antagonizing the Muslim world. Then they will say Bush failed to protect us. And if we don't get hit, they will say the threat was all Bush lies and fearmongering.


62 posted on 11/28/2006 8:59:07 PM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

Her and millions other like her.


63 posted on 11/28/2006 9:00:10 PM PST by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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To: Perdogg


The administration has done nothing to defend itself. President Bush has been ill-served through the years. IMHO


64 posted on 11/28/2006 9:05:52 PM PST by BlueAngel
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To: Anti-Bubba182
The main reason IMO is that they were probably moved to Syria prior to the start of the war as indicated by massive pre war traffic to Syria

That's what I have been saying ever since we invaded Iraq, but no one in Washington seems to remember anything about that heavy truck traffic to Syria. I distinctly remember watching TV coverage of USAF air surveillance shots of long convoys of heavy military trucks heading out of eastern Iraq toward the Syrian border during the time when our forces were still advancing toward Baghdad. The TV commentator even mentioned the possibility that the trucks were hauling WMDs to Syria to hide them from American forces and keep them in the hands of Saddam's Syrian friends.

But in the aftermath of occupying Baghdad all those truck convoys seemed to have been forgotten. I have to wonder why the Bush administration doesn't even acknowledge that any of that ever happened. If Israel has to go into Syria some day to clean out that rat's nest, I have to believe they will discover that Saddam actually had the WMD stuff he was accused of having.

65 posted on 11/28/2006 9:13:36 PM PST by epow
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To: Lumper20
Why are Generals writing books? Think about it for a second or more? Did Chesty Puller write a book? Sorry I do not read books like these. Where is Singlaub's book? Where is Col. Howards?

Actually, I know that Chesty Puller wrote a book (late '60s), and I believe General Singlaub may have written several books. I don't know Colonel Howard. Generals writing memoirs is as old as Caesar's commentaries.

66 posted on 11/28/2006 9:19:59 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: yldstrk

Geez, I wonder if the media will fall down and worship this general and quote his every word endlessly like they do every general who said Rumsfeld should be fired or that Iraq was a mistake.


67 posted on 11/28/2006 9:23:36 PM PST by MikeA (Where's the media to call the elections a "temper tantrum" by America like they did in 1994?)
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To: vaudine
Also, people don't know or forget that many in the military had their pet projects thwarted by Rummie as he updated the military complex.

Right. And therein lies the root cause of much of the criticism Rumsfeld and Bush have been getting from the retired desk jockey brass, aided and encouraged of course by the MSM traitors.

The supposedly antiwar DemoRats and media whores don't really care about the war, or whether or not we can work out a solution for Iraq, or how many Americans and innocent Iraqis die trying. They're only obsessed with regaining the power they lost beginning with Gingrich and the Contract with America that prevented the Clintons getting everything that they and the other Rats wanted during the last 6 years of their reign of deceit, lies, and outright treason.

I truly believe that many, no make that most, of the traitorous Rat/MSM combine would sell our country out to the most dangerous enemy we have if that treachery would get them the power trip they so desperately crave. In fact, Clinton did sell out his country to it's enemy by selling highly classified missile guidance technology to Red China for campaign money.

I'm very much afraid that the US has survived and triumphed over 2 centuries worth of foreign enemies only to be brought down by it's own domestic enemies who hate everything good, right, and decent that America has stood for and fought for over those two centuries.

68 posted on 11/28/2006 9:47:20 PM PST by epow
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To: ikez78; eyespysomething

WOW Mark!, Eye thanks for the ping.


69 posted on 11/28/2006 9:52:45 PM PST by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Lumper20
Why are Generals writing books?

To tell us how it was. What's wrong with generals writing books??

70 posted on 11/28/2006 9:56:38 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Lumper20

What about Lt Gen Hal Moore? He wrote a book.


71 posted on 11/28/2006 10:01:10 PM PST by eyespysomething
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To: yldstrk
It doesn't matter. Liberals and the press demonized Bush to such an extent, I don't think it'll matter in public opinion. The socialist somehow won public opinion this round... un fricken believable..

I still love Bush.
72 posted on 11/28/2006 10:03:23 PM PST by Porterville (I'm afraid the forces that want war are more than the forces who don't)
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To: ikez78
The day will come when America as well as the rest of the world we read the details as to what was moved and when. This administration and the military have been so lazy and tight lipped about so much they could have stuck the case solid with it is beyond my understanding why they have so meekly held off.
Perhaps there are good reasons behind the madness. Who knows.
73 posted on 11/28/2006 10:10:33 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: eyespysomething; Lumper20

Yeah. And General Dwight D, Eisenhower wrote Crusade in Europe.


74 posted on 11/28/2006 10:14:22 PM PST by Dan Evans
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To: yldstrk

I thought they had already proved that convoys going into Syria just before invasion had no other purpose, which partially explains Syria's current bravado. They're armed to the max!


75 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:03 PM PST by MHT
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To: vaudine

I read an article where someone had figured out that it amounted to something like 1/1000 of retired and active generals. 4700 retired and 900 active

The article was http://www.slate.com/id/2139847/

It's incomplete now though.


76 posted on 11/28/2006 10:25:22 PM PST by Albertafriend
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To: Perdogg

Maybe because it will make a fantastic thing to crow about all doing 2007!


77 posted on 11/28/2006 10:37:54 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: yldstrk
Oh I want to get this for my liberal Brother who has drunk the Koolaide despite going to the Naval Academy! Oh how I am going to LOVE people crowing about this book! Ping the whole frikin world, Tony Snow, Ann Coulter, whom ever just to get people buzzin about this book!
78 posted on 11/28/2006 10:51:20 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: epow
I saw the same thing you did. I remember, and I tell people about it as well.. Given Saddam's connections to Al Qaeda, I am betting a LOT of that stuff ended up in some VERY VERY bad hands in Malaysia as well as Syria, Iran, and Lebanon. With Iran Arming Hezbollah with rockets, and money, how far a stretch is it to imagine them using Bio and Chem weapons on Israel? Given Amahdinnajerks rhetoric???? No bet. No bet.
79 posted on 11/28/2006 10:56:16 PM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Danae

bump


80 posted on 11/29/2006 12:54:03 AM PST by malia (President Bush - a man of honor!! clinton as President a man of horror)
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To: onedoug

OK, what's a pan islamist.


81 posted on 11/29/2006 3:27:37 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: xzins

Whenever you have to pay for the info ,forget about it


82 posted on 11/29/2006 3:29:55 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Perdogg

This administration is a Public Relations DISASTER.

How many of us could have been creative in making the case:

For invasion without WMD?

That WMD WERE found everywhere, including sarin-tipped missiles, mustard gas, etc?

That Saddam attempted to hide military assets in the vast deserts of Iraq, including entire MIG fighter jets, etc?

That WMD were moved to Syria with Russia's fingerprints all over?

That collateral deaths of Iraqi civilians were the direct consequence of harboring terrorists, and if you don't want to die by American bomb, you don't associate with terrorists.

That the United Nations is corrupt from the head down, and has no moral authority to intervene in America's defense.

That Hans Blix and co. are Socialists on a mission, whose credibilty needed to be destroyed.

That the NYTimes needed to be prosecuted for treason.

That the Geneva Convention guided rules of warfare for signatories ONLY, and that since terrorists did not abide by it, America would NOT unilaterally adhere to it.

That detainees in Gitmo would not be given Korans by unclean Americans wearing gloves (WTF??????).

That documents found (think jveritas) implicated Saddam conclusively in much of the above?

Instead, the RINO administration was cowardly, inconsistent and incoherent.

The White House rolled over, installed a buffoon as spokesman, made nice with Pootie-Poot, backslapped Kennedy et. al. and advanced a Socialist domestic agenda, invited Clinton into the family and gave him a platform to rebuilld his legacy in the eyes of the world, chastized Israel for defending itself against terrorism, fought a politically-correct limited war in Iraq instead of employing overwhelming force with extreme prejudice, left the borders wide open to the south, tried to sell softie Harriet Myers as a Supreme, and otherwise FUBAR.

And people wonder why WE lost the election?

This administration did not lead, so no one followed.


83 posted on 11/29/2006 4:24:18 AM PST by Stallone (Is There A Conservative Leader ANYWHERE In America?)
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To: unkus
"The Rats don't care. Power is all they are interested in."

You are right of course. But why has not the Bush Administration made this point about the WMDs? If this retired General is correct, why is he only voicing this on the Internet website and not with the media? There are enough Conservative TV and Radio Talk Show Hosts who would have him on their respective shows. Or is this information still classified?
84 posted on 11/29/2006 4:53:10 AM PST by wmileo
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To: wmileo

He's told people. I believe NEWSMAX and some others.

The press does not want to hear this stuff though.


85 posted on 11/29/2006 5:01:46 AM PST by ikez78 (www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: ikez78
"The press does not want to hear this stuff though."

Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh have shows with national appeal. They have a greater audience than NEWSMAX at this time. They could have him on. I listened to the 9+ minute clip and Gen. DeLong seems very credible to me.
86 posted on 11/29/2006 5:15:10 AM PST by wmileo
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To: yldstrk; ikez78; jveritas

Gen. George Sada, one of Saddam's top Air Force guys, has been saying the same things since the toppling. Jveritas has done amazing work uncovering/posting many things that the LameStream Media has been ignoring/lying about.


87 posted on 11/29/2006 5:26:20 AM PST by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Better alert the "No WMD's in Iraq" FINO's.....too


88 posted on 11/29/2006 5:29:20 AM PST by Osage Orange (The old/liberal/socialist media is the most ruthless and destructive enemy of this country.)
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To: Dan Evans

With all our intelligence why wasn't the transfer of WMD to Syria on tape of filmed or caught from pictures in the sky? How could no one see or speak up about this. How can you hide a transfer of WMD without no one knowing?


89 posted on 11/29/2006 5:53:55 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: BlueAngel

Nothing? Or not enough?


90 posted on 11/29/2006 6:11:23 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: angcat
Simple, our satellites don't come with X-ray vision.
91 posted on 11/29/2006 6:13:29 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: Valin

HA cute!

I thought I killed the thread!


92 posted on 11/29/2006 6:19:38 AM PST by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: All

"Rifle" DeLong was at the core of Tommy Franks' inner circle. I assign him the precise credibility levels I assign to statements directly from Franks.

Common sense and historical fact gives Saddam a motive for shipping his WMD outside Iraq. We all saw what happened to the Iraqi Air Force during ODS, and I have posted a declassified Intelligence Advisory from 1991 detailing two WMD convoys to Iran on FR more than once before. (Available on request.)

The 1991 shipments to Iran used truck convoys, as supposedly claimed by DeLong, too.

Motive, method, and opportunity. You can win a legal case on this basis alone.

Why hasn't this been done?

We invaded Iraq to prevent the use or distribution of WMD, the same would apply to Iran or Syria.

I maintain that there have been military plans for Iran since 9/11, in the same drawer the Iraqi plans were in 2002, when they were "not on Bush's desk". This is the only logical explanation that still holds water for Bush esentially ignoring years of overt provocation from Iran. No need to respond to verbal jousting when regime change is in thw wings.

With 60 days to commit military force before seeking Legislative support being the standard of past presidencies, the fat lady has not begun to sing yet, in fact she is more than two years away from even leaving her house for the opera hall.

Wait and watch.


93 posted on 11/29/2006 6:55:38 AM PST by jeffers
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To: ikez78
On June 9th [2004], the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council about the export of Iraqi WMD, missile and nuclear components shipped out of Iraq before, during and after the invasion. As reported by MENL news service, UNMOVIC acting executive chairman Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"

Source

Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."

Source

"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."

In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."

Source

"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).

Source

"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."

Source

"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."

Source

94 posted on 11/29/2006 8:27:32 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: jeffers
Will you please stop making sense!
Wait and watch.
NO NO NO! I want to know right NOW! I want this to be just like a movie, where the hero saves the day and rides off into the sunset, all in 2 hours.
95 posted on 11/29/2006 8:45:48 AM PST by Valin (Rick Santorum 08)
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To: Lee'sGhost
OK, what's a pan islamist.

Anyone who claims that Islam should be world dominant by whatever means neccessary, especially cutting your head off.

Lots of references on the web alone.

96 posted on 11/29/2006 8:52:04 AM PST by onedoug
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To: yldstrk

Before our entry into Iraq, I remember many FReepers talking about trucks lined up at the Syrian border, probably going into the Bekka Valley, full of WMDs. Since our ousting saydam, our screaming media presstitutes have been debunking the idea saydam had ANY such things. They say it's a myth put out by our President Bush's administration so we could invade Iraq. Of course the presstitutes know far more than any military general about WMDs and their whereabouts, so we DO NOT HEAR from the Generals in the REAL know of what's happening over there.


97 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:58 AM PST by tillacum
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To: onedoug

Well, in that case, I totally agree.


98 posted on 11/29/2006 10:12:16 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Eagles6

Eagles6, the talk shows won't touch Rick Santorum with a ten foot pole, 'cause he'll tell the truth and the talk shows are all part of the alphabet press. It won't be allowed.


99 posted on 11/29/2006 10:12:42 AM PST by tillacum
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To: Dan Evans
The media and other liberals have convinced the world that there were no WMDs. "Mission Accomplished". There is no reason to bring in additional information, opinions or facts that challenge the popular opinion.
100 posted on 11/29/2006 10:18:13 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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