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Rockstar lifestyle might survive after college
The Daily Athenaeum ^ | Nov 29, 2006 | Christian Alexandersen

Posted on 11/29/2006 7:22:19 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666

Students often use the excuse that the best times of their lives are in college so they can use drugs and abuse alcohol, but I recently found out that you can still party well after the convocation ceremony.

While attending the Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band concert in Knoxville, Tenn., with my father, I saw baby boomers doing everything college students do today. I expected the concert to be fun, but watching these 40-, 50- and 60-year-olds partying was truly a learning experience.

While rocking out to tunes like "Still the Same" and "Turn the Page," the older concert-goers were drinking excessively, passing around the sticky-icky, and being utterly loud and obnoxious - just like college students.

A lot of students like to party hard in college because they believe that college is the only time in their lives they are allowed to drink and look stupid doing it. Youngsters have been trained to believe that after college their lives are virtually over. After college comes responsibilities, work, bills, kids and uneventful life experiences. But this isn't true in the slightest.

With this perception of a dismal life after college, students find it completely acceptable to get blackout drunk without any repercussions. This need to "live life" in college pressures students into drinking to the point of alcohol poisoning. Attending the concert made me realize that life after graduation is something to look forward to.

Instead of drinking as much alcohol as you can before you pass out or smoking enough weed to numb your entire body, students need to understand that they can still have a good time after receiving a degree.

These gray rockers proved to me that partying isn't reserved for the young. At the concert, I saw both men and women falling over drunk, getting high, fighting, dancing drunkenly by themselves and urinating in a grimy parking lot.

Everything that typical partying students do in college was being done by their 50-year-old counterparts.

Bob Seger himself proves that even at 61 you can rock a full house of 12,000 screaming fans. This observation of the older rock 'n' rollers made me see that college students don't need to cram a million party experiences in four years because they have the rest of their lives to have fun, whether it be drinking, peeing in parking lots or just meeting new people.

Don't get me wrong, I believe college is a source of a lot of great moments. But we have the next 40, 50 or 60 years to live our lives the way we choose. Using the excuse that college is the "best time of our lives" shouldn't hold up because at 20, we haven't been able to experience a tenth of the moments that await us in the next 40 to 60 years.

Instead of speeding up, we need to slow down our party-hard lifestyles.

Next time you're at the bar taking your eighth shot of Wild Turkey or starting a fight with someone for "smart-eyeing" you, try to remember that nearly all of the things you do now can be done at any age.

Whether or not it is openly accepted is an entirely different column altogether.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Tennessee; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: babyboomer; bobseger; college; drunk; feellikeanumber; genx; grimyparkinglot; growupalready; immatureelders; likearock; oldhippies; stickyicky; stillthesame; turnthepage
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You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely.
1 posted on 11/29/2006 7:22:21 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Slight difference between college students getting drunk and baby boomers. It's illegal for the college students...a fact that seems to totally escape the college student until they're arrested/ticketed for underage drinking.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 7:26:11 AM PST by dawn53
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
These gray rockers proved to me that partying isn't reserved for the young. At the concert, I saw both men and women falling over drunk, getting high, fighting, dancing drunkenly by themselves and urinating in a grimy parking lot.

AOL chatroom gathering? Oh, I forgot, there was no mention of sex while bent over a dumpster.

3 posted on 11/29/2006 7:27:15 AM PST by NRA1995 (Clinton "tried", 3000 died)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
I was at his concert in Grand Rapids, Michigan.. eight rows back... great concert and a great time. Yes, there certainly were aging baby boomers drinking too much, but surprisingly i never once caught a whiff of the evil weed.
5 posted on 11/29/2006 7:27:32 AM PST by bella1 (Support the Minuteman Project.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I was thinking the same ... immature and refusing to grow up! They don't release just how ridiculous they are.


6 posted on 11/29/2006 7:28:34 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

"Still the Same"


7 posted on 11/29/2006 7:29:33 AM PST by DenverGal
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I paid $5 to see him live about 30 years ago. I think he's getting $65+ for tickets now.


8 posted on 11/29/2006 7:31:59 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: bella1
That made me think of major sporting events, basically an excuse for a lot of adults to go and get drunk. But then they just act like jerks, scream obscenities, and maybe get in a fight.
9 posted on 11/29/2006 7:32:27 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
At the concert, I saw both men and women falling over drunk, getting high, fighting, dancing drunkenly by themselves and urinating in a grimy parking lot.

How inspiring.

10 posted on 11/29/2006 7:34:18 AM PST by Tax-chick (My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Looking back on my life (I'm 65 now) the best time of my life was between 40 and 50.

Sure college was fun and the Army Boot Camp put me in the best shape of my life. Ages 25-35 were super learning experinces, with Viet Nam in there.

But Age 40, I finally came into my own. I no longer cared what others thought. I could make decisions with full confidence that they were the right decisions.

During my 50's it was a time of slow decay of my medical and physical being, not so hot.

However, not once did my ability to party dwindle.


11 posted on 11/29/2006 7:35:45 AM PST by Lokibob (Spelling and typos are copyrighted. Please do not use.)
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To: Lokibob
However, not once did my ability to party dwindle.

Any relation to Willie Nelson?

12 posted on 11/29/2006 7:39:42 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Fortunately I did not see any fights--- just some old hippies/bikers/biker chicks unable to stand up after a while from one too many beers. It did have a comedic quality to it!
13 posted on 11/29/2006 7:43:44 AM PST by bella1 (Support the Minuteman Project.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Bumper stickers on the car of the 40 something next door to me:

I may be getting older but I refuse to grow up

Body by Budweiser

And he cannot understand why I don't like his outdoor mega bass subwoofers at full volume during the summer time.


14 posted on 11/29/2006 7:44:35 AM PST by sockhead (socialisim . . . where everyone is equal . . . equally miserable)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I paid $5 to see him live about 30 years ago. I think he's getting $65+ for tickets now.

I used to go see him years ago at the Hideout, when he was Bobby Seger and the Last Herd.

Almost the same scene - lots of doobies being passed around - but very little drinking.

15 posted on 11/29/2006 7:44:54 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666; SpinnerWebb
However, not once did my ability to party dwindle.

If it ever does, they have pills now that can fix it.

16 posted on 11/29/2006 7:46:34 AM PST by tx_eggman (Democrat Campaign Slogan - 2006: "Bring Out The Gimp!")
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Some don't realize that us antiques were there when rock 'n roll was in its infancy. Yes, Virginia, there was life even before the Beatles.

I've been drunk a few times. Hate hangovers. Moderation in all things. Didn't smoke rope, except twice. Like beer 'n Jack better.

Good music has know age limit. If music gets your heart started, it can begin, or end, even the ugliest day.

My favorite from Bob Seger is "Her Strut". Love the words,
and, it COOKS. Think I'll crank it up right now.


17 posted on 11/29/2006 7:46:40 AM PST by wizr (Live life with a Passion!)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Rock and Roll Never Forgets.


18 posted on 11/29/2006 7:46:56 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

What kind of silly scold would attend a rock concert of a rocker with a fan base going back almost 40 years, and then get upset that some of the audience was over 40.

It was a rock concert, try attending the opera, or a republican convention, and you will find an even higher number of people over 40.


19 posted on 11/29/2006 7:48:00 AM PST by ansel12 (America, love it ,or at least give up your home citizenship before accepting ours too.)
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To: dawn53

Many college students see these days as being freedom from their parents, and they live hard and fast with the rules. Their brains are still full of mush and they don't realize that having a good time does not entail waking up on the bathroom floor in their own vomit.

With maturity it is hoped that the majority of them will learn about moderation. In doing so, they inevitably have much more fun when living it up with their friends.


20 posted on 11/29/2006 7:49:02 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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21 posted on 11/29/2006 7:49:26 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

"Turn the Page", isn't that a Metallica song that he's covering? ;)


22 posted on 11/29/2006 7:54:18 AM PST by shekkian
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Reminds me of the song by Cake

<< Well, your CD collection looks shiny and costly.
How much did you pay for your bad Moto Guzzi?
And how much did you spend on your black leather jacket?
Is it you or your parents in this income tax bracket?

Now tickets to concerts and drinking at clubs,
Sometimes for music that you haven't even heard of.
And how much did you pay for your rock'n'roll t-shirt
That proves you were there,
That you heard of them first?

How do you afford your rock'n'roll lifestyle? >>


23 posted on 11/29/2006 7:54:35 AM PST by NeoCaveman (excess ain't rebellion)
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To: dawn53
Slight difference between college students getting drunk and baby boomers. It's illegal for the college students...a fact that seems to totally escape the college student until they're arrested/ticketed for underage drinking.

I find it convenient that it was the baby boomers who made that so. More do as I say not as I do from the worst generation.
24 posted on 11/29/2006 7:55:27 AM PST by ccc_jr (Klaatu barada nikto)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

"...drinking as much alcohol as you can before you pass out or smoking enough weed to numb your entire body,..."

I never really understood the appeal.


25 posted on 11/29/2006 7:57:02 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NeoCaveman
Hey, that's a good song!

But I'm really only on this thread for the weed.

26 posted on 11/29/2006 8:03:28 AM PST by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (I'm boycotting Best Buy, so yay for me.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I quit drinking because I didn't want my kids to see me drunk.


27 posted on 11/29/2006 8:06:51 AM PST by Richard Kimball (I get no respect. I went to the proctologist and he put his finger in my mouth - Rodney Dangerfield)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

I'm here for the beer... I ain't leavin' till I'm heavin'


28 posted on 11/29/2006 8:09:15 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Richard Kimball; tx_eggman
I quit drinking because I didn't want my kids to see me drunk.

I got my vasectomy for the very same reason.

29 posted on 11/29/2006 8:10:09 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

The problem is that these "greying rockers" that are falling down drunk at the Bob Seger concert are probably in the same income bracket that they were in when they left school, if they even attended college in the first place.


30 posted on 11/29/2006 8:17:05 AM PST by LetsRok
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Rock and Roll PING! email Weegee to get on/off this list (or grab it yourself to PING the rest)
31 posted on 11/29/2006 8:21:42 AM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: NRA1995

"No mention of Sex while bent over a dumpster"?????

Hmmm. Did he call you the next day?


32 posted on 11/29/2006 8:25:05 AM PST by wildbill
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Doesn't sound any different than your average NFL game.


33 posted on 11/29/2006 8:26:16 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

All throughout history people will let go from time-to-time. I'm all for work, family, and responsibility, but once in a while, letting go, having a good time is great for one's soul.


34 posted on 11/29/2006 8:28:32 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: sockhead
Body by Budweiser

Some men work on getting "six pack" abs... Me? I've got a pony keg...

Mark

35 posted on 11/29/2006 8:37:44 AM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

I'm 52. My band is playing at the Red Hen on the 28th. It's a blast but I only have one beer and water throughout the night. Playing the music is the fun part.

You do see a lot of "50 going on 17" men and women though.


36 posted on 11/29/2006 8:37:53 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

-"Students often use the excuse that the best times of their lives are in college..."-

It's because they don't know any better, hence the use of the word "student". And there's nothing more pathetic than watching 40+ folks getting sloppy drunk.


37 posted on 11/29/2006 8:38:56 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: bella1; weegee

My dad used to play Seger for me when I was a wee lad, and now we have tickets to see him in Boston in January. I can't wait!


38 posted on 11/29/2006 8:39:49 AM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Speaking of this, I saw this video yesterday. Dear old dad doing son proud on Dad's Weekend it looks like.
39 posted on 11/29/2006 8:46:02 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: bella1
I was at his concert in Grand Rapids, Michigan...surprisingly i never once caught a whiff of the evil weed.

Thats because you were in Grand Rapids. Lots of stiff necks in that town. Its a nice place if you like hills and trees, but far too uptight IMO.

40 posted on 11/29/2006 8:51:57 AM PST by Sirloin
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
Kids always get embarrassed by the sight of their parents trying to act young. I suppose that extends in general to their parent's generation as well.

It seems to shake their little psyches' like an earthquake seeing the people they've been told they were supposed to look up to and respect having too much fun. Especially if it involves music and all the other party accoutrements that go with a rock concert.

It also gives them a serious wake-up call when they see how stupid they're going to look in a few years, when they are so-called grown-ups.

That's why I try to avoid the little punks when I want to have a good time. Life is too short to associate with lightweights with issues.

41 posted on 11/29/2006 8:54:11 AM PST by Kenton
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To: the_devils_advocate_666; qam1

LOL. I guess we have the boomers to thank for the very idea that gross over-partying is for college kids...no one wants to grow up to be the creepy old dude at the club! Sadly, many of my old friends have become just that.

I struggle with the whole "do I live it up still or set myself out to pasture" issue, and I'm "only" 34. I use scare quotes because when I was in my 20's that was totally over the hill. ;) I mean, you're older and wiser but still love the same things, what to do? I recently saw the English Beat, at the time five months pregnant, I felt like an ass! (yes I stayed far away from smoke and speakers - they don't draw a real party-hard crowd anyway)


42 posted on 11/29/2006 9:18:23 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

In college I didn't think shutting down your brain with alcohol amounted to living life to the fullest, and I still don't. Drugs are stupid, too. Pursue knowledge, meet people, learn about life in college. Self-sedation is a nasty fashion promoted by corporate advertising.


43 posted on 11/29/2006 9:37:46 AM PST by SupplySider
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To: sitetest
I never really understood the appeal.

Here's the answer: Rising BACs feel good. Real good. Falling BACs, not so much.

44 posted on 11/29/2006 11:01:29 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Gas. Grass. Ass. Nobody rides for free.


45 posted on 11/29/2006 11:02:04 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: SupplySider
In college I didn't think shutting down your brain with alcohol amounted to living life to the fullest, and I still don't. Drugs are stupid, too. Pursue knowledge, meet people, learn about life in college.

Reminds me of an interview I saw with Nugent:

Nuge: I never drank, never took drugs
Interviewer: What about your album 'Journey to the Center of Your Mind'?
Nuge: I was like, 'yeah, introspection's good...'

46 posted on 11/29/2006 11:07:40 AM PST by ichabod1 (Democracy = Anarchy)
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To: sockhead

So, are you younger or older than he is? Just trying to see which side the jealousy is coming from. :)


47 posted on 11/29/2006 11:11:22 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Best frickin line of the day award.


48 posted on 11/29/2006 11:18:01 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: ichabod1

Dear ichabod1,

From my own personal experience, when my BAC got high enough that I could feel it, I didn't like it.

I enjoy a drink or two, but I've never enjoyed drunkenness.

A chacun son goût, I guess.


sitetest


49 posted on 11/29/2006 12:04:39 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I'm older, my daughter is younger; we both dislike loud bass line thumping and low tone vibration from which there is no escape; neither of us jealous. Guess your neighbors don't mind your outdoor mega bass speakers, huh?


50 posted on 11/29/2006 1:14:26 PM PST by sockhead (socialisim . . . where everyone is equal . . . equally miserable)
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