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Dollar woes poised to carry over into next year (Greenback is down about 50% vs. euro)
MarketWatch ^ | Novermber 29, 2006 | Wanfeng Zhou

Posted on 11/29/2006 8:46:56 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: NapkinUser
The dollar strengthened 10% vs. the Euro in 2005. I don't remember the trade deficit falling in 2005.

Looks like the dollar is worth 116 Yen now. 2 years ago the dollar was worth 102 Yen. I guess the trade deficit is to blame? LOL!

21 posted on 11/29/2006 9:18:00 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Also makes their cost of doing business higher.

de Villepian is barking about the Euro's strength against the USD and JPY because Airbus sales are in USD, but the costs are in EUR, so they get hit on both sides. Hedging costs will increase as the USD weakens.

Since Airbus is really Europe's poster child for EU business, maybe some exchange rate controls are not far off the horizon if the USD remains weak.


22 posted on 11/29/2006 9:20:18 AM PST by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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To: GodGunsGuts
But the dollar has continued to fall this week

It has backed off a little today. Bulk gasoline is up a little but nothing is going over the cliff right now.

23 posted on 11/29/2006 9:24:12 AM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Why, has the trade deficit harmed us? I'm not being a contrarian here, I really am not an economist. Seems like every time the trade deficit runs high we hear it is a bad thing. Is it good or bad?
24 posted on 11/29/2006 9:27:20 AM PST by Ben Mugged (Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.)
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To: Petronski
The bankers created the "personal" debt mess?

Who do you think pushed to loosen up lending guidelines to allow high-risk people to have credit cards? Before this insanity got started in the 80's the US personal bankruptcy rate was a fraction of what it has been in recent years. College kids get credit cards now when in my parents time only well-off people had credit cards and then the balances HAD to be paid off every month. There was no such thing as revolving debt. The bankers did, indeed, create this mess and they've been reaping amazing profits by giving credit to irresponsible people.

Before you say that it is the responsibility of the borrower to behave themselves I'll remind you that it is the fiduciary duty of the bank to be responsible with my deposits and to not lend them out to high-risk borrowers with low credit scores.

So, as I said, the bankers created this mess, now let them pay the piper.

25 posted on 11/29/2006 9:28:43 AM PST by PeterFinn (B’fhearr Gaeilge briste na Béarla cliste.)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Oh yes, let's howl about the 'weak' dollar and push the Democrats into screaming for tax increases here at home to 'help' reduce the 'deficits' so that poor Europe won't have to lose yet more import business to the U.S., after all, that's basically what all this current howling is about.

Poor Europe, it hurts so good!
26 posted on 11/29/2006 9:30:45 AM PST by Pox (If it's a Coward you are searching for, you need look no further than the Democrats.)
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27 posted on 11/29/2006 9:32:29 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: Ben Mugged
Is it good or bad?

If the deficit was bad, would our unemployment rate be 4.4%? If a trade surplus was good, would Japan have had 15 years of recession and deflation after 1989? Would Germany's unemployment rate be 10.3%?

http://rawstory.com/news/2006/German_unemployment_tipped_to_fall_11292006.html

28 posted on 11/29/2006 9:33:45 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: stopem; TET1968; Ben Mugged; proudpapa; NapkinUser; PeterFinn; Rockitz; Revolting cat!; Pox; ...
In other related and potentially ominous news (especially for those invested in EU countries), the EU *COLLECTIVE* is mulling over the idea of freezing capital flows should the dollar take a nose dive. Then there are all the rumblings from Red China, Russia, OPEC countries, and even our allied trading partners about currency diversification, which, if followed through on, would be a disaster for the USD (esp. in terms of its reserve currency status and all the privileges and benefits we derive from the same). Something to think about for those who keep calling for a devaluation of the USD:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1745275/posts
29 posted on 11/29/2006 9:46:05 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Toddsterpatriot
How is it doing overall? Since the Euro came into existence?

Did the trade deficit not increase in 2001, and again in 2002, and again in 2003 and looks to break a new record in 2006, which will be broken in 2007?

30 posted on 11/29/2006 9:49:14 AM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: stopem

Forget Europe...Canda has gotten 30% more expensive in the past 3 years. Their dollar is almost on par with ours.


31 posted on 11/29/2006 9:55:43 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: NapkinUser
How is it doing overall? Since the Euro came into existence?

The Euro was worth $1.20 when it was created. The Euro is now worth $1.3155. Looks like the Euro is almost 10% stronger.

Did the trade deficit not increase in 2001, and again in 2002, and again in 2003 and looks to break a new record in 2006, which will be broken in 2007?

I thought the deficit increased every year? If you blame the deficit for a weak dollar, how do you explain 2005, when the dollar was stronger?


32 posted on 11/29/2006 9:56:53 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
A few things, China currently holds about $2 trillion in US debt - 350 billion of that is in Treasuries, approximately 210 billion of that is in munis, and the remaining balance is held as negotiable debt (meaning that they are one of the bankers who would be hurt by the US dollar dropping).

Europe is not as much of a concern to our trade imbalance as no one European country outside of the UK holds much of our debt. The two (trade & debt) are interlinked and China (while holding less of our debt than Japan does) poses more of a concern because unlike any other country in the world they have the trifecta of larger dollar holdings than the US government, they have the second largest accumulation of our debt, and they have a pure trade imbalance unlike Japan that returns a fair amount of their trade back to the US in the form of payroll and purchases.

33 posted on 11/29/2006 9:58:27 AM PST by PeterFinn (B’fhearr Gaeilge briste na Béarla cliste.)
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To: Revolting cat!

True, gold is a good hedge investment. But don't forget to invest in some shooting iron, as well!


34 posted on 11/29/2006 10:00:15 AM PST by PeterFinn (B’fhearr Gaeilge briste na Béarla cliste.)
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To: PeterFinn

Personal responsibility.


35 posted on 11/29/2006 10:03:10 AM PST by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain. IAGO: You are--a senator. ---Othello I.i.)
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To: PeterFinn
A few things, China currently holds about $2 trillion in US debt

Source?

they have the second largest accumulation of our debt,

Japan holds more than $2 trillion in US debt? Source?

36 posted on 11/29/2006 10:03:36 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Toddsterpatriot
Something to think about for those who keep calling for a devaluation of the USD...

You mean, someone like YOU?

37 posted on 11/29/2006 10:05:28 AM PST by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain. IAGO: You are--a senator. ---Othello I.i.)
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To: Rockitz

"The systematic collapse of the dollar continues."

"Systematic" implies that either (1)an organized effort or (2)a natural phenomenom is at work.

"Collapse" implies heading to zero, as opposed to a "decline", or a "reduction".

The situation with the dollar vs the Euro is to some extent part of a misguided organized effort (in European and Middle East circles), and also part of a natural phenomenom that arises from the imbalance of our exports vs our imports.

Inflation is nearly nill in most of western Europe, as is the growth of GDP, yet the Euro central bankers keep Euro interest rates high, attracting foreigners to keep reserves in Euros. Middle East oil barrons are supporting the "nationalistic" push in Europe for the Euro to be so "valuable", by putting more of their oil revenues into Euros. By beefing up the Euro vs the dollar, they can claim that oil prices (based on dollars) are now low and therefore due for another increase (creating inflation through world oil prices reacting to an inflated Euro). Yet, the game they are all playing is only hurting the Euro denominated economies, because the higher Euro is pricing their exports out of world markets, which is in part why France and Germany have such sluggish economies (10% + unemployment). Eventually, the Middle East oil and money speculators will lose as well, because their activities are helping to inflate the Euro and eventually their reserves will fall when the Euro comes back to earth.

The other part is that our imports exceed our exports by far too much, which builds up excess dollars in other countries foreign reserves. The lower dollar is the natural economic corrective for this condition; imports to us will become more expensive, so, in a short time, our imports will go down. At the same time our domestic manufacturers will be helped by having less competition from foreign goods in our domestic market and because their goods become more price-attractive in foreign markets. As our trade balance corrects, so will foreign banks need for more dollars, for the increased US exports the lower dollar helped produce. Before too long, the dollar will begin to rise in value again.

But there is no "collapse" in the offing; just economic cliches for ignorant public consumption.


38 posted on 11/29/2006 10:05:33 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Ben Mugged

Yes, read my post in this thread right before this one.


39 posted on 11/29/2006 10:06:35 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Petronski

Just because he called for an 80% devaluation of the dollar, that doesn't mean he wants the dollar to be devalued.


40 posted on 11/29/2006 10:08:47 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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