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Bush Administration Wants Flu Shots For Illegal Immigrants
Kfoxtv ^ | 11/29/2006 | Kfoxtv

Posted on 11/29/2006 12:31:55 PM PST by Kimberly GG

The Bush Administration has indicated it wants doctors, clinics, and hospitals to provide flu immunizations to illegal immigrants.

In an interview with KFOX-TV, Secretary of Health and Human Services Michael Leavitt was asked if the federal government has any safeguards to prevent illegal immigrants from catching the flu. Leavitt responded by saying doctors should give flu shots to "every person."..............


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush; health; healthcare; hyperbole; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; obl
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1 posted on 11/29/2006 12:31:58 PM PST by Kimberly GG
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To: Kimberly GG

Got to keep them from taking sick days, those jobs Americans will not do, don't you know.


2 posted on 11/29/2006 12:33:51 PM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Maybe they'll put tracking devices in them.....(tinfoil hat time)


3 posted on 11/29/2006 12:33:58 PM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Kimberly GG

Calling INS! Calling INS! Another taxpayer ripoff instead of enforcing the laws of the land.


4 posted on 11/29/2006 12:34:25 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Kimberly GG

Yeah we really want them to sever as a disease vector instead and help spread the illness.,

Really this mindless hate of the Know Nothings is getting rather pathetic.


5 posted on 11/29/2006 12:34:34 PM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: Kimberly GG

I guess its better than permitting an epidemic.


7 posted on 11/29/2006 12:36:15 PM PST by Wuli
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To: MNJohnnie

Here's an idea, send 'em back where they came from... Let their government give 'em a flu shot.


8 posted on 11/29/2006 12:36:57 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dead Corpse

BINGO!


9 posted on 11/29/2006 12:37:20 PM PST by yobid (A world without Islam is a world with peace)
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To: Kimberly GG

Yes, they do need them. If they aren't immunized, the disease can really spike in their populations and then get into the general population.


10 posted on 11/29/2006 12:37:46 PM PST by mysterio
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To: MNJohnnie

"Yeah we really want them to sever as a disease vector instead and help spread the illness.,'

Nope. Give them the shot then send them home...to Mexico.


11 posted on 11/29/2006 12:37:58 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: yobid

Just watch the FROBLes pee down their own legs over such sentiments however...


12 posted on 11/29/2006 12:38:10 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Yeah we really want them to sever as a disease vector instead and help spread the illness.,
Really this mindless hate of the Know Nothings is getting rather pathetic."

If GWB insists on pissing away taxpayer monies...at least he should uphold the Constitution, protect our Republic, enforce the laws and ship 'em the hell outta here.


13 posted on 11/29/2006 12:39:14 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Dead Corpse

I agree with what you said in post #6.

This is pure BS!


14 posted on 11/29/2006 12:39:16 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Kimberly GG
Leavitt responded by saying doctors should give flu shots to "every person."..............

I'm up with that.

Long as Goerge W. Bush the multi-millionaire and his wife Lovey is paying for it out of his own pocket.

15 posted on 11/29/2006 12:40:14 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Kimberly GG

They can't round 'em up to deport them, but can to give flu shots? Gimme a break!


16 posted on 11/29/2006 12:41:45 PM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: Kimberly GG

How about instead of citizens paying for more crap for illegals we pay to have illegals thrown the hell out of the country?


17 posted on 11/29/2006 12:41:58 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Kimberly GG
The day that Illegals are able to collect Social Security is the day that the Government will make efforts to close the border.

Right now, an estimated 10 million Illegals pay into SS, but don't collect. The government (both Democrats and Republicans) need the Illegals to help keep the SS system afloat. Its just a matter of time before some Federal Judge changes that.

18 posted on 11/29/2006 12:42:16 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: lowbridge

That I could support. Private efforts are one thing, forcing tax payers to support the health needs of criminals the government refuses to do anything about is worse than a slap in the face of every law abiding citizen.


19 posted on 11/29/2006 12:42:25 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: lowbridge

Republicans now saying doctors should work for free and give medical stuff away.

Does government work for free for things that need to be done?


20 posted on 11/29/2006 12:42:26 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Kimberly GG

People who are complaining about this would rather have an epidemic? Immunizations aren't only for the people getting immunized - it protects the entire population.


21 posted on 11/29/2006 12:43:16 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Kimberly GG

Let's just deport them.


22 posted on 11/29/2006 12:43:32 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Kimberly GG

Maybe he wants to arrest them when they come in for their shot. Hey, I can dream can't I?


23 posted on 11/29/2006 12:44:14 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: mysterio
Yes, they do need them. If they aren't immunized, the disease can really spike in their populations and then get into the general population.

That's true. But we know they're here working, why can't they pay for the shots like American workers. No one asks for an ID when you get a flu shot, it's like voting.

24 posted on 11/29/2006 12:44:26 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: Dead Corpse
forcing tax payers to support the health needs of criminals the government refuses to do anything about is worse than a slap in the face of every law abiding citizen.

Supporting their health needs supports our health needs. An epidemic hurts everyone.
25 posted on 11/29/2006 12:44:29 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

Justifying lawless socialism with more socialism doesn't work. Google up "circular logic".


26 posted on 11/29/2006 12:45:15 PM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Kimberly GG

GIVE it to people who are here by breaking the law. Charge the rest of us.

Yeah, I'm liking you less and less every day President Bush.

What kind of super secret deal did you make with illegal aliens for crying out loud??? You seem to go out of your way to make life cushy for them here and to hell with the rest of us!


27 posted on 11/29/2006 12:45:18 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: MNJohnnie

Unless you haven't noticed, we KNOW NOTHINGS, have YOU outnumbered. You may not give a crap about this country, its security, and its sovereignty, but we KNOW NOTHINGS do. Run along....isn't there some day in the life of the president thread calling your name?


28 posted on 11/29/2006 12:45:29 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Stone Mountain
People who are complaining about this would rather have an epidemic? Immunizations aren't only for the people getting immunized - it protects the entire population.

See post 24. Unless you're proposing free flu shots for everyone, why shouldn't illegals pay for their shots?

29 posted on 11/29/2006 12:45:34 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: edcoil
Republicans now saying doctors should work for free and give medical stuff away.

They obviously learned NOTHING from the last election.

30 posted on 11/29/2006 12:45:48 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: Kimberly GG
Could we sign the women up for free birth control shots as well?

sw

31 posted on 11/29/2006 12:46:25 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (www.hispanictrends.com)
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To: Stone Mountain

>>>People who are complaining about this would rather have an epidemic? Immunizations aren't only for the people getting immunized - it protects the entire population>L>>

If YOU get YOUR flu shot, and your family gets theirs, you shouldn't have to worry about an epidemic.


32 posted on 11/29/2006 12:47:32 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: Kimberly GG
Hmmmm... Government supplied and payed for? Let's get our terminology correct here... The government may be writing the checks, but it's the taxpayers who are paying for it... So I get to help pay for their flu shots... Damn, and I just payed $62.00 for flu and pneumonia shots myself. Maybe I should have waited and just said "no habla english."

Mark

33 posted on 11/29/2006 12:47:50 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Southerngl
GIVE it to people who are here by breaking the law. Charge the rest of us.

The implementation of this pandering, sorry, plan, will be interesting. How does one prove he's an illegal? There's no "illegal ID". Ask after the shot maybe? That'll be $20, unless you're an illegal. And have you registered to vote?

34 posted on 11/29/2006 12:48:05 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: Kimberly GG

I'm not really against htis as we have a huge overabundance of flu shots that will be wasted if people don't get them & the flu shot makers are going to take a HUGE hit once again if they have to dump millions of doses on the ground- Socialized state controlled flu shots have proven such a win win situation for flu shot makers [sarcasm alert] http://sacredscoop.com


35 posted on 11/29/2006 12:48:08 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Southerngl
Bingo!

sw

36 posted on 11/29/2006 12:48:29 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (www.hispanictrends.com)
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To: CottShop

oh and at LEAST make the illegals PAY for the shots- infact, charge them double!


37 posted on 11/29/2006 12:48:40 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Kimberly GG


...but if we can't find them, how can we give them flu shots?


38 posted on 11/29/2006 12:49:13 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Cowboy, Bush is backing Senate Bill 2611 and not only does he refuse to close the border, I seem to remember him wanting to make sure that the illegals not only collect Social Security for the years they've worked here ILLEGALLY, he wants them to collect for any time worked before they came here. Anyone have any links on this information?


39 posted on 11/29/2006 12:49:14 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: MayflowerMadam

maybe they could do the ol' felony warrant bait & switch:

send the "you won a plasma TV" flyer to the wanted(in this case , illegals) when they show up for their free gubmint cheeze...GOTCHA & see ya later.


40 posted on 11/29/2006 12:50:30 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Cowboy Bob

You said:
Right now, an estimated 10 million Illegals pay into SS, but don't collect. The government (both Democrats and Republicans) need the Illegals to help keep the SS system afloat. Its just a matter of time before some Federal Judge changes that.


I'd like to know where that statistic came from. I seriously doubt it. There is no way to tell how many (or how few) illegals pay into SS. It is purely a guess.

And MY guess is these illegals are smarter than that. They DO NOT PAY INTO SS. They work the jobs which don't deduct SS. Nobody will say this -- because that would SHOW BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the EMPLOYERS are to blame, for paying these illegals directly.

The real problem is that these illegals are being hired. They should not be hired by ANYBODY to do ANYTHING.

No one is addressing this. It is like we want to have it both ways. We want cheap labor -- which just encourages the illegals to enter our country. Then we gripe about them entering the country.

And in most cases, it is the same people doing both!


41 posted on 11/29/2006 12:50:54 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: MNJohnnie

I don't support your Know Nothing comment, but I agree: this is a public health issue and disease knows no boundaries.

But while we have them lined up for the injections......well....


42 posted on 11/29/2006 12:51:17 PM PST by trimom
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To: Southerngl

It's still a problem if you are in the middle of an epidemic, even if you personally don't get sick. Bad for the econonmy, bad for work, etc, etc.


43 posted on 11/29/2006 12:51:45 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: lowbridge

>>>Republicans now saying doctors should work for free and give medical stuff away.
They obviously learned NOTHING from the last election.>>>

We all knew they would get the wrong message. Instead of realizing how angered people were by their lack of Republican leadership, they assumed the masses wanted them MORE liberal.

*sigh* I give up.


44 posted on 11/29/2006 12:52:56 PM PST by Southerngl
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To: Kimberly GG
The Bush Administration has indicated it wants doctors, clinics, and hospitals to provide flu immunizations to illegal immigrants

This is a good idea if done on a personal private or voluntary private charity basis. Not more statism.

45 posted on 11/29/2006 12:53:07 PM PST by mjp
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To: Stone Mountain

"People who are complaining about this would rather have an epidemic? Immunizations aren't only for the people getting immunized - it protects the entire population."

Why is giving them what they want always the answer? You have a problem with enforcing our laws so they leave? Or deporting them. What next? They demand we wipe their butts and we do it, for the sake of clean air?


46 posted on 11/29/2006 12:53:08 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Kimberly GG
NO!

I'm sick of citizens tax dollars paying for this! Will we CHARGE MEXICO?

47 posted on 11/29/2006 12:54:04 PM PST by Last Laugh
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To: Stone Mountain
Never mind See post 24. Unless you're proposing free flu shots for everyone, why shouldn't illegals pay for their shots?. On rereading the quote, I see the recomendation is to immunize everyone presumably for free, not just illegals.
48 posted on 11/29/2006 12:54:58 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: Stone Mountain

"People who are complaining about this would rather have an epidemic? "

No. As was explained more then a few times on this thread. Give 'em the friggin boot, not a needle.


49 posted on 11/29/2006 12:55:06 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: MayflowerMadam

"They can't round 'em up to deport them, but can to give flu shots? Gimme a break!"

SHHHHHSHH.. We all know this is a ploy to get them to come in so we can ship them out right ?? RIGHT !!


50 posted on 11/29/2006 12:55:32 PM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Senior at the University of MD)
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