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Residents use pig races to deter building of mosque
KTRK ^ | Nov 29, 2006 | Ted Oberg

Posted on 11/29/2006 9:14:45 PM PST by jdm

(11/29/06 - KTRK/KATY, TX) - There's an awful lot of exciting news when you round the corner on Baker Road. One of two big yellow signs announces a new neighbor is coming soon.

K.I.A., that's the Katy Islamic Association, plan to build a mosque here.

"It's not an appropriate place to have a mosque or church," said resident Barbara Simpson.

It isn't going over real well.

"As a house of worship, they shouldn't be disturbing the peace and tranquility of 15 homes," said resident John Wetmore.

Neighbors tell us they're concerned about traffic and drainage and a little fear of the unknown.

Some of the homeowners even offered to buy the land back for more than a million dollars.

The K.I.A. doesn't seem very interested in the offers.

"We're not going anywhere," said Katy Islamic Association member Alvi Muzfar.

So it seems the community at the end of Baker Road has a pretty good fight.

But this fight has gone much farther than many between two neighbors. You see in these fights, sometimes neighbors throw mud at one another, in this instance they're wallowing in it.

Craig Baker owns pigs.

He's the guy behind the second big yellow sign on Baker Road. That's the one announcing Friday night pig races.

"What does it matter, I can do whatever I want with my land right," asked landowner Craig Baker.

Sure can.

But aren't pigs on the property line racing on a Friday night a little offensive to a Muslim neighbor?

"The meat of a pig is prohibited in the religion of Islam," said Katy Islamic Association member Youssof Allam. "It's looked upon as a dirty creature."

Yeah there's that and also that Friday night is a Muslim holy day.

"That is definitely a slap in the face," said Allam..

Now before you go thinking Craig Baker is unfair, or full of hate, or somehow racist, hear him out.

Baker has long roots here, his family named the road and when the new neighbors moved in, he tells us, they asked him to move out.

"Basically that I should package up my family and my business and find a place elsewhere," said Baker. "That's ridiculous, they just bought the place one week prior and he's telling me I should think about leaving." That new owners deny they ever said anything like that, but Baker isn't budging.

Baker admits the pigs are a message he is not leaving.

The 11-acre property is sandwiched between a pricey subdivision and Craig Baker's business.

K.I.A. eventually plans to build a mosque, a gym and a school there. There's no date for the groundbreaking ceremonies, or the first pig race.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: allahwasapig; islam; katy; mosque; mosques; pigraces; pigs; races; texas
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To: Thud
Webcams showing the mosque in the background during the races.

Great idea. . .and grow 'big' pigs. . .

. . .but better start now. . .lest it look like it is . . . un-neighborly racism or somesuch. . .

I Could be pig are going to come into their own as pets or just 'game pigs'. . .; more than ever before. . .

Can hear it. . .'never thought I wanted one. . .but. . .'

51 posted on 11/29/2006 11:16:40 PM PST by cricket
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To: epow
Very good post, I quite agree with everything you posted. To your....Do I sound biased against Muslims? No I don't think so. I never was biased before, but I guess thats just what I am now. And it makes me mad that I am but I truly fear for our country. Where has common sense gone? Why would we let more of these people who want to behead all non believers into our country? We know so many of these mosques support terror groups and yet we just sit back and wait. Until something terrible happens again these people who call themselves the religion of peace will flock here in hordes waiting for the call to kill us. Maybe I am too paranoid but I would rather be safe with my head where it belongs then be sorry and dead. This country needs to get common sense back ASAP and stop being so nice. Personally I feel for the people of this neighborhood. At least the prayers will be inside and they won't have to see these Muslims on their prayer mats with their butts up in the air. That would really offend me. I have lived near a mosque and those prayer wailing really got on my nerves big time. I am all for praying in a nice quiet manner or even singing. But to hear them 5 times a day is just too much. They pray between the first light of dawn and sunrise, then after Midday,then mid-afternoon, then at sunset and finally from one and a half hours after sunset. It can truly get on your nerves.
52 posted on 11/29/2006 11:18:30 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: epow

Build dog kennels all around it!


53 posted on 11/29/2006 11:18:35 PM PST by TheLion
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To: jdm

54 posted on 11/29/2006 11:20:30 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: TheLion
Those that can see are tortured by what may be coming down the pike

No doubt, most here. . .feel the pain!

55 posted on 11/29/2006 11:21:46 PM PST by cricket
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To: cricket

I frequently call people I know all over the country....most are tuned into the lastest crap on TV like Dancing with the Stars or some such....doesn't look to bright on the horizon.


56 posted on 11/29/2006 11:25:37 PM PST by TheLion
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To: jdm

Awesome!


57 posted on 11/29/2006 11:27:28 PM PST by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: jdm

Them pigs should be herded onto that property and allowed to defecate all over it.


58 posted on 11/29/2006 11:28:17 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: pandoraou812

My thinking is that Bush should have cleaned out all Democrats in high level possitions when he came into office....Clinton did.

Bush, however, is a compassionate Republican who left these people in to do their thing. We allowed 80,000 Muslims to legally immigrate here last year. But, you know of course, that the generally vote Democrat!


59 posted on 11/29/2006 11:33:39 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TheLion
Dancing with the Stars or some such....doesn't look to bright on the horizon.

. . .no - in many ways it does not. Just having Bush made a fool out of today; and so many not caring. . .and Danny Devito doing his loathesome schtick; all disheartening; because it is not only dangerous; and ugly respectively; it speaks to the meanest; spirit and one that so many, ignorantly embrace. (A 'spirit' informed by the 'Left' of course, but now, seemingly, omnipresent.) Still it is inferior. . .and therefore weaker. . .than he spirit of the 'good guys'.

And that brings me back to the possibilities of a pig. . .(!)

Time to 'give it up'. . .for today. Am soon off to Ireland for a week; a change of landscape; political and otherwise.

60 posted on 11/29/2006 11:42:58 PM PST by cricket
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To: cricket

Enjoy your trip....I watched "The Brylcreem Boys" earlier tonight. Fliers and sailers stranded in Ireland in early WW II. Good flick.

Amazing....the confluence of things we do.


61 posted on 11/29/2006 11:47:42 PM PST by TheLion
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To: pandoraou812
why wasn't there a zoning commission hearing so the people had the chance to say no to them building there?

Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act of 2000, sections 2 & 8

62 posted on 11/29/2006 11:47:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Do they get the same tax benefits Churches do?


63 posted on 11/29/2006 11:54:35 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: TheLion

If we allowed 80,000 Muslims to legally immigrate here last year I think we have a huge problem. Were these people screened? And if they just came last year then how are they voting? I think I am for closing the border to everyone until we figure out a system to protect the people of America. I thought it should have been shut down right after 9/11 but what do I know?


64 posted on 11/29/2006 11:58:38 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: pandoraou812
Do they get the same tax benefits Churches do?

Yes.

65 posted on 11/30/2006 12:00:19 AM PST by PAR35
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To: pandoraou812

Personally, I would have closed down both borders after 9/11, even with troops if need be. More than 50,000 Muslims in Virginia turned out to vote for Webb. Allen lost by 9,000 votes.

Who knows if they were screened. The INS has their own system and who knows what politics motivate it. Had I been President Bush, I would have gotten conservatives to run it.


66 posted on 11/30/2006 12:07:06 AM PST by TheLion
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To: PAR35

I guess they would. I never really gave it a thought before. Kind of irks me that so many of these mosques give money and support to terrorists and they get tax benefits.


67 posted on 11/30/2006 12:09:26 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: jdm
Well I see Wal mart can't build in San Diego,

But a new bomb producing hate factory can be built in a local neighborhood in the suburbs of Dallas, Texas.

Islam is not a religion of peace and especially for some of the radicals here in the USA.

I have not found one Muslim out here in the land of fruits and nuts that want to assimilate into mainstream America.

Wake Up America before it's too late.
68 posted on 11/30/2006 12:09:29 AM PST by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia now a certified socialist state reporting to Mexico City for further instructions)
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To: pandoraou812
Do they get the same tax benefits Churches do?

And THEN some. They get to do ANYTHING political they darn well please in those mosques with nary a wisp of fear about losing their tax-exempt status.

You tell me, when has the IRS EVER investigated a mosque? If it ain't happened yet, it ain't never gonna.

69 posted on 11/30/2006 12:15:35 AM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: jdm
Sounds like he needs to collect the blood of all the pigs he has collected and just pour it on the property next door.

Pig blood soaked land would be an awfully serious desecration of land to muzzies.

70 posted on 11/30/2006 12:17:32 AM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Beagle8U
"lol..Yes they can!"

Super! I see a very bright future for the pig farmer that can develop a breed of guard pigs. Maybe crossbreed with warthogs to make then a bit more aggressive.
71 posted on 11/30/2006 12:25:01 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: epow
"Do I sound biased against Muslims?"

Not one bit! It's absolute lunacy to keep allowing Muslims into our nation while Islam is at war with us. I swear, if the illegal Mexican immigrants said they would expel all the Muslims from our nation in return for being allowed to stay, I might march with them.

If this same crap were pulled back in the fifties the halls of Congress would have been buzzing with another layer of hearings into un-American activities.
72 posted on 11/30/2006 12:43:49 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: TheLion
I don't know what Bush's thing is with Muslims, but I don't trust him an iota on this. He's propped immigration of Muslims across the board, holds annual Ramadan Celebrations in our White House, and tried selling Islam as a religion of peace. Immigration figures for this decade so far have the percentage of immigrants from the Middles East Region rising from 15% Muslims to 73% and it stinks.
73 posted on 11/30/2006 12:55:55 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: pandoraou812

The first 80,000 came in 2002-03. Bush made a deal with Russia's Putin to allow the immigration of an entire Muslim community that couldn't get along with non-Muslims in Russia.


74 posted on 11/30/2006 1:00:31 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: pandoraou812

This might get your goat. The mosques are primarily funded by Saudi Arabia, and they also fund adjoining schools. The textbooks used in the schools are Saudi published in English and Arabic, AND contain the same teachings that were used in Saudi funded schools in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Pakistan to prepare young martyrs for Islam.


75 posted on 11/30/2006 1:07:29 AM PST by backtothestreets (Invite Jesus to pray with you.)
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To: Frank_2001

"Add a few pole dancers, and plenty of beer;)"NOW you are talking!


76 posted on 11/30/2006 3:36:50 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: jdm

That's great! :)


77 posted on 11/30/2006 3:37:57 AM PST by Mrs Ivan (English, and damned proud of it.)
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To: jdm

You gotta love these people. They need to gather the dogs together too and have a hog roast with plenty of booze!


78 posted on 11/30/2006 3:40:07 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: jdm
If the mosque is built, hope the neighbors have earplugs...

Hamtramck Mosques Will Start Call to prayer Friday 1:30

79 posted on 11/30/2006 3:42:36 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: TheLion
Amazing....the confluence of things we do.Yes; all the time, synchronicity making the ordinary - less so.

. . . Yesterday, wanted to make an appointment; but thought too late and then spent more than an hour, looking for the card of the establishment to call; just in case. . . When I finally found it - just got it between my fingers - the phone rang. . .the woman on the other end asked me if I remembered I had an appointment 'today'. It was mistakenly put on her calender; and had someone elses phone number - which did not work - they looked to confirm my phone number from their file. . .and then called me.

But yes, all the time; red flags out there; aka 'coincidence'; reminding us; that there is so much more. . . ;^)

As for The Brylcreem Boys; had not heard of that movie. . .but sounds like good a 'good one'. . .

81 posted on 11/30/2006 4:30:58 AM PST by cricket
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To: jdm

The site for the mosque ought immediately to be designated a dog park.


82 posted on 11/30/2006 4:38:09 AM PST by libstripper (!!)
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To: pax_et_bonum

See post #8 for employment opportunity.


83 posted on 11/30/2006 5:01:08 AM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: humblegunner

See my post #11 response to post #8.

:-P


84 posted on 11/30/2006 5:02:28 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: jdm

LOL! Gotta love a Texan! ;)


85 posted on 11/30/2006 5:03:25 AM PST by proud American in Canada (Thy Will Be Done.)
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To: jdm
"Basically that I should package up my family and my business and find a place elsewhere," said Baker. "That's ridiculous, they just bought the place one week prior and he's telling me I should think about leaving."

WTF?

I am so sick and tired of the *&^%&*# muslimes telling us what we can and can't do with our country. My suggestion to them, is move your slimey @$$ back to your muslime country.

86 posted on 11/30/2006 5:04:17 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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To: jdm
And after the race, the losers get BBQ'd Saturday and Sunday.

Setup a BBQ stand and sell to people driving by.

Hell, I may have to make a road trip.
87 posted on 11/30/2006 5:09:05 AM PST by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: jdm
I'll take a Michael bin Moor and Roastie O'Donnell quinella in the third.

Oink

Leni

88 posted on 11/30/2006 5:12:54 AM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: jdm
"It's looked upon as a dirty creature."

Funny, that is what we think of Muslims!

89 posted on 11/30/2006 5:23:42 AM PST by Redleg Duke (íSalga de los Estados Unidos de America, invasor!)
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To: backtothestreets
It figures our dear Saudi Arabian friends are behind the funding. Their noses seem to be into everything that concerns the wonderful religion of pieces. Nothing surprises me anymore.
90 posted on 11/30/2006 5:33:21 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: jdm

Are the pigs named Mohamed and Abdul?

"Mohamed is rounding corner 1 with Abdul close behind."


91 posted on 11/30/2006 5:37:30 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: jdm
Baker has long roots here, his family named the road and when the new neighbors moved in, he tells us, they asked him to move out.

"Basically that I should package up my family and my business and find a place elsewhere," said Baker. "That's ridiculous, they just bought the place one week prior and he's telling me I should think about leaving." That new owners deny they ever said anything like that, but Baker isn't budging.

Excuse me? WTF??? Soak the ground of their mosque with pig blood. Time to stop playing nice.

92 posted on 11/30/2006 5:50:33 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dahoser

I'll take the Hillary!-Helen-Nancy trifecta.
thanks


93 posted on 11/30/2006 5:57:07 AM PST by freedomlover (Sorry, a tagline occurred. The tagline has been logged.)
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To: cricket

Pig roasts, prayer meetings, nativity scenes, crosses and stars of david on cars and yards, bacon wrapped korans left here and there.......I'm sure the neighbors can keep it interesting for the sand maggots.


94 posted on 11/30/2006 6:00:09 AM PST by newcthem
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To: backtothestreets
I don't know what Bush's thing is with Muslims, but I don't trust him an iota on this.

Hush! It's an affair of the heart. ;)

95 posted on 11/30/2006 6:04:55 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: TheLion
Had I been President Bush, I would have gotten conservatives to run it.

He'll be leaving quite a legacy.

96 posted on 11/30/2006 6:07:24 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: jdm
Too bad he doesn't put in a pig farm - a full fledge one at that.

This reminds me of something that happened years ago. In my hometown of Carmel, Indiana, there was a person who owned property around 116th St and Spring Mill Road. The owner was interested in building 3 story professional office building. Along Meridian Street (US31) especially around Meridian & 116th were these 7+ story buildings owned by an investment company. The owner of the company got in cahoots with the City Council and Mayor of Carmel and prevented this person from getting the zoning changed so he can build his office building. However, the property was zoned farming/agriculture. He decided to put in a full fledged pig farm as his response. The people in the investment company were pretty p*ssed. I don't know what kind of farming this person does since I left Indiana about 12 years ago.
97 posted on 11/30/2006 6:11:48 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: teacherwoes
They should have online betting and web cams for the pig races.

Government to people: "Online betting is bad for you. The Nanny state will protect you from yourselves!"

98 posted on 11/30/2006 6:14:58 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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To: Frank_2001
Add a few pole dancers, and plenty of beer;) And some fried pork (the losing pig from the previous weeks race) on the menu for the visitors of the races. And in the tradition of Americans being good neighbors they should take their new neighbors a plate full of this tasty American favorite food welcoming them into the area and invite to the races on Friday nights.
99 posted on 11/30/2006 6:16:37 AM PST by Ron H.
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To: Dead Corpse

I say put in a chitlins factory right upwind, so all the pigfat smoke wafts through the mosque.


100 posted on 11/30/2006 6:17:17 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance ( <h2>SAY NO TO RUDY! I know how to spell, I just type like s#it.)
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