Skip to comments.Strategy to divide Americans must be overcome (MEGA-PROJECTILE BARF ALERT)
Posted on 11/30/2006 7:44:45 AM PST by Chi-townChief
Well, I was expecting some kind of backlash from the conservative arena. But, I am dumbstruck to see what that backlash looks like in The Star.
Conservatives are so afraid of change that they need to push their agenda down our throats even more strongly now that the Democrats have taken control of the House and the Senate. Another column by a conservative?
Fran Eaton is wrong.
This country is not divided 50-50. Right-wingers have been lied to.
There is more likely a 70-30 split, with 30 percent (plus or minus a few percentage points) being conservative. Most of this country wants bold change in one aspect or another. The problem with conservatives is that they mix apples and oranges and don't observe whole systems either locally or across the planet.
Conservatives tend to be "traditionalists," at least regarding personal and family values. Traditionalists want to keep the status quo at all costs because they believe it's safe and comfortable. The Bush administration has done a great "spin" job of convincing conservative/traditionalists that Republicans are all for family values.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Republicans believe in smaller government which actually translates to privatization of everything.
They tend to be "corporatists." These are the unleashed rapists of the worlds resources -- without accountability or conscience. They exploit traditional people, deplete their land, resources, freedoms, and have put the whole world under a burden of debt and modern day slavery.
Corporatists have one agenda -- profit. The mantra is: "Make more and more money, whichever way that needs to be done--just do it." Who cares about the consequences to little peoples' quality of life or to the environment? The CEOs and upper crust get all the cream; the rest of us get debt, lost jobs or low-paying jobs, no health care, no savings and no Social Security for the future.
This double-talk about less government is code for privatization.
Traditionalists tend to think in black and white. If government needs to be small-- then privatization is the only other option.
Corporatization has become the new tyranny. Conservatives are fooled into thinking government control is stifling free enterprise. That's because they can't see the way past "rule" as being authoritarian. Yet, they want "rule of law," which they perceive as having the "authority" to hold all bound by the law.
Government can be a good thing in carrying out the job of regulating an industry for the people, in following a mandate to abstain from censorship and making available a commodity that can be utilized for the benefit of all people. Health care, water, food, energy and free Internet access are examples of things that need to have regulation for the benefit of all -- not privatized for the exploitation by the few.
Free enterprise is not synonymous with corporatism. The Republican Party supports corporatism -- not free enterprise. Here's something to ponder: There are Republicans who are progressive and Democrats who are conservative.
"Values" and beliefs should have nothing to do with politics. The Republican administration, led by Karl Rove, has "spun" these terms into a confusing mix that has divided this country. Rove and his followers don't care about the consequence of that move. They only care about winning the game of staying in power and promoting their neoconservative agenda. That agenda is imperialism with the U.S. as world dictator.
Conservative Republicans voted for conservative Democrats? In a few cases that may have been true. But across the board, Americans voted for change. The Bush administration scared the bejeebies out of the public.
We sat and watched as the United States went backward and threatened to become a fascist government. That means business controlling government.
Conservatives, please open your eyes. Separate the apples and oranges.
We are all for values. We are all for safety and security of our country and our institutions. We are all for keeping our Constitution whole and unadulterated. Traditionalists want to keep things the way they used to be. Progressives are futurists.
Liberals are simply those who view things with an open mind. All of these are "world views," and all of these are "OK." We need all of these elements in a society. Stop letting the pundits, lobbyists, spinners, and corporatists fool us into thinking we are so different. They divide us and keep us bickering and distracted about semantics while they divide the spoils among themselves. Stop being fooled. Abortion and gay rights; these are moral issues that should be interpreted according to one's moral development. These issues should be dealt with privately and in our churches, not in our government.
And, Ms. Eaton, here's something to think about: Thanks to the hard work of feminists before you, you have been given a voice. If it was up to the hard core traditionalist conservatives ... women would be relegated to the back of the church, wearing scarves to cover our heads and being told to shut up.
I'm really tired of the myth and lie that the media is liberal. The media is afraid to be liberal. Every once in a while the media has the courage to actually tell the truth. Then the conservatives start screaming about the liberal media.
The alternative news I read is liberal. And, I read it online. The mainstream media is anything but.
Paula Morris lives in Park Forest.
Ms. Morris needs to understand that we as
conservative, tend to be more interested
in "separating the rotten apples and oranges"....JJ61
For real? LOL
I knew it!
Paula Morris is a self-described person with a "socialist perspective" in this letter she wrote to the Socialist Worker:
Just spreading rampant rumors:)
and has never been anywhere in her life save standard metropolitan statistical areas and similar resorts.
What's hilarious is the last statement in that paragraph accusses conservatives of wanting a dictatorship - a government where no one is allowed to stand for anything!
"Liberals are simply those who view things with an open mind."
Someone should ask Clarence Thomas or Samuel Alito if they agree with this statement.
I used to live in Park Forest. When I would vote in the primaries there would be about 15-20 voting booths for the Democrats with long lines and one booth for Republicans. When I would stroll in and ask for a Republican ballot the judges would all be surprised and laugh that a Republican finally came in. LOL!
I used to live in Chicago Heights aka "da Heights" and Park Forest was certainly LiberalLand, USA even 30-40 years ago.
What an idiot. She's is probably getting worried about a 50-50 split, having realized one side has most of the guns.......
Sounds more like Soviet Communism to me because the Marxists used to say a lot of the same stuff. Nothing like the logical fallacy of the "appeal to novelty" to ground your belief system.
The Democratic Party and the Communist Party USA sound more alike every day.
Ping for later
Conservatives want to CHANGE Roe v Wade. Liberals want the status quo.
Conservatives want to CHANGE Public Schools. Liberals want status quo.
Conservatives want to CUT TAXES. Liberals want to RAISE taxes. Both favor CHANGE.
Conservatives want to drill in ANWR. Liberals want status quo.
Conservatives want to CHANGE from Sadam to free elections. Liberals want status quo.
I'm so steamed by this I need to put some ice on it.
More unsubstantiated proclamations of dogma from the priesthood of the Church of the Left.
Wonder if she knows that George Soros used to rape entire countries for profit? Doubt she'd care, as she doesn't seem to care about Hollywood lefties that make millions off movies that spew garbage and propaganda to millions of impressionable youngsters.
This line cracked me up...if she bothered to look at the definition of fascism, she would see that it describes the Democratic agenda for this country. See below:
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
I don't want, "the rule of law", I want justice.
Now that is drek, so of the most close minded folks that I have ever met are liberals, there words simply drip vitriolic hatred that would shock the average person.
My conversations with libs have convinced me that when they say I need to be "open minded" they mean "you might as well believe what I say because I am not going to pay any attention to what you say." Given this definition, she may be right.
Problem is that not every conservative feels comfortable with classical liberal ideals. In fact, many that post here in this forum do not: there the same ones who secretly feel that this author is fairly spot on in places. In my opinion, this author is not stupid...I think he wrote this with a purpose in futhering the divide in the GOP between the more libertarian wing and the more paternalistic/morality wing. This is a brilliant play on the Left's part.
I'm not aware of any corporations that have ninja clad agents with three letters on the back of their jackets that will break into my home with flash bangs at 0300 and kill me because I cut a half inch too much metal off the barrel of an old shotgun.
Forgive my language, but what a dumb C U Next Tuesday.
Park Forest my have lost its last conservatives when my family moved out in '58.
"Liberals are simply those who view things with an open mind."
Yeah I can't help but notice the open minded attitude being demonstrated by liberals on college campuses when conservative speakers are invited to give their point of view !!!
Paula is delusional