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EXCLUSIVE: Iranian Weapons Arm Iraqi Militia
ABC News ^ | November 30 2006 | JONATHAN KARL AND MARTIN CLANCY

Posted on 11/30/2006 8:19:10 AM PST by jmc1969

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To: dinoparty
We don't have the resources to fight occupation opposed insurgencies...but we have the resources to destroy all the military infrastructure that supports these insurgencies.

Iran and Syria are footing the bill, supplying the weapons and training. If we destroy, completely, these military forces and means of production...and eliminate those regimes...the insurgencies and the Jihad dies with them.

101 posted on 11/30/2006 9:22:20 AM PST by Mariner
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To: All
Yet we blow up tons of weapons caches in Iraq instead of finding a way for them to wind up in the hands of Iran's many ticked off youngins. We lose because we always forfeit.
102 posted on 11/30/2006 9:25:45 AM PST by The Toll
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To: Muzzle_em
Anyone care to theorize what would be happening in Iraq and/or U.S. right now if the U.S. had never gone into Iraq and Saddam was still in power?

Iraq would be the home of Al Quata, funded freely by Saddam. Saddam would be financially supporting anything they wanted. His goal would be a total destruction of the US before he died of old age. If he didn't do this, the terrorists would have taken over Iraq eventually anyway.

103 posted on 11/30/2006 9:27:45 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: edcoil
Any law that says Iran cannot make stuff or sell or give them to anyone?

Uh, yeah. Not that they can be expected to enforce it or anything, but the U.N.'s Charter prohibits aiding an armed insurgency against a recognized government. This would doubtless also be illegal with respect to any number of bilateral or regional accords and agreements.

104 posted on 11/30/2006 9:27:54 AM PST by Stultis
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To: WoofDog123

"big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?"

Nothing!


105 posted on 11/30/2006 9:29:30 AM PST by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: jmc1969

Bombing iran will NEVER happen.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1538092/posts?page=1


106 posted on 11/30/2006 9:33:06 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (Time to eradicated islambs and mooselimbs! GO PTSC)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Any analogy breaks down. The Stern gang didn't worry about civilian casualties when they blew up the King David Hotel. We didn't worry about killing innocent women and children with the fire bombing of Tokyo and Hamburg and Dresden or using the A bomb against Hiroshima and Nagasaki. War is about winning any way you can. The winners apply the rules after the war is over.


107 posted on 11/30/2006 9:33:13 AM PST by kabar
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To: Fighting Irish

We are outdoing our reputation as a paper tiger when it comes to fighting this war.When did America become so predictable? It's like we are following a script that was written by our enemies.The politicians in Washington are being manipulated like puppets and the terrorist are holding the strings.We can't win a war when we are dancing to the beat of the enemy.


108 posted on 11/30/2006 9:34:29 AM PST by peeps36 (Rebuild Iraq's Army And Send It Over To Kick Iran In The Teeth)
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To: wastedyears
It's been done. Check it out here.
109 posted on 11/30/2006 9:35:10 AM PST by Pirate21 (The liberal media are as sheep clearing the path along which they will be led to the slaughter.)
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To: ilgipper

Certainly a possibility, especially if we would consider operating across those borders if needed. Bush has lost his perspective if he just views this as a question of Iraq.


110 posted on 11/30/2006 9:48:34 AM PST by Williams
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To: Williams
"Our troops are in a war zone being killed, and we know the neighboring hostile country is providing weapons to the killers. The only sensible course is to threaten Iran and prepare to follow through if they do not pull back."

Like we did to the Chinese who were supplying the North Koreans? Or the Russians who were supplying the VC?
We don't have a good track record in this regard and I don't see that changing...

Kit.

111 posted on 11/30/2006 9:51:17 AM PST by KitJ
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To: jmc1969

ABC is just now figuring out that Iran is no saint? Welcome to hte real world ABC- we were waiting for you to catch up- now move to hte back of the line and keep your yap shut please. http://sacredscoop.com


112 posted on 11/30/2006 9:53:22 AM PST by CottShop
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To: jmc1969

I'm shocked.


113 posted on 11/30/2006 9:53:53 AM PST by rintense (Liberals stand for nothing and are against everything- unless it benefits them.)
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To: jmc1969

Sorry folks, but our government isn't going to a damn thing about Iran sending weapons into Iraq. They've been doing it for well over a year and we've known about it for that long. No matter how many US soldiers are killed with Iranian weapons we won't lift a finger to actually stop it. Oh sure, we'll 'beef up border security', but we won't punish the Iranian gov't in any shape, form or fashion. We have neither the will nor the resolve.

Our government will work triple overtime seeking a politically correct, euro-safe solution that will culminate in people waving pieces of paper around... if they seek a solution at all.


114 posted on 11/30/2006 9:55:43 AM PST by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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To: KitJ

Exactly, the poor track record should not be repeated. Iran is a strategic target in itself, probably more important than Iraq.


115 posted on 11/30/2006 9:56:53 AM PST by Williams
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To: kabar
didn't worry about civilian casualties when they blew up the King David Hotel.

Actually they did or they would not have called in a warning before they bombed British Military Headquarters in one wing of the KD Hotel.

If your argument is that even when there is concern for civilians an important war aim must trump that concern regarding civilians you are correct.

In the West today concern for tangential civilians- often terrorist supporters- stops necessary military action in its track.

Our enemy has no such compulsion. They consider us all, civilians and uniformed, as legitimate targets.

Being moral should not mean being suicidal. Losing to barbarism is immoral.

116 posted on 11/30/2006 10:08:25 AM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: jmc1969
folks, the long view is that we went into Iraq BECAUSE of Iran. That we're now just starting to see fresh weapons popping up on the battleground is not news.

Like Afghanistan before it, we had plenty 100% justifiable reasons to project our power to Iraq. As the world---still to this day---is wringing their hands worrying about the "unwinnable" war in Iraq, the US has been able to realize the ultimate intent of our multitheater strategy--the confrontation of Iranian (and Russian) regional power that has taunted us for almost 30 years.

Despite an colossal barrage of news stating the exact opposite, we are uniquely positioned to counter fascist rhetoric originating from Tehran. A belligerent Iran is proof positive that our pressure is working, not floundering.

The popular (and much derided) notion of the US "reaching out" to our enemies may be an incorrect reading of what's really happening. Instead, we may be setting the agenda Robert Oakley style--(to paraphrase) "America will help you steer events toward a peaceful resolution, but so help us, if you screw up your end, we'll bring this place down."

117 posted on 11/30/2006 10:12:38 AM PST by cyberdasher (Wikistan--Frontline of the information wars)
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To: rhombus

Like everything else in life there is a simple solution.

At 12:00 tomorrow, the US declares that unless Iran leaves Iraq immediately, at 17:00est tomorrow, just in time for the evening news cycle, Iran will cease to bee an oil producing nation.

Then we remove all troops from the Baghdad area and put them on the Syrian border. Then Israel mobilizes for war.

Oh, then disconnect John Boltons telephone.


118 posted on 11/30/2006 10:13:45 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Forgot something.

Later in the evening, Quetta in Pakistan is totally leveled by stealth aircraft. Then the US denies having anything to do with the bombing.

Call it the say of settling all debts.


119 posted on 11/30/2006 10:15:08 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I thank the RNC for freeing me to vote my values rather then political party. It is liberating!)
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To: navyguy
Yes I agree. The will of history - represented in Russia and China's stance, Europe's passivity, and the American left's rebellion - is once again pushing Persia to the forefront of power in that region.

After we leave Iraq, there will be a short war after 2008 engulfing the entire middle east, with Iran/Iraq obtaining the allegiance of neighboring countries (except Israel of course)

120 posted on 11/30/2006 10:15:29 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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