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EXCLUSIVE: Iranian Weapons Arm Iraqi Militia
ABC News ^ | November 30 2006 | JONATHAN KARL AND MARTIN CLANCY

Posted on 11/30/2006 8:19:10 AM PST by jmc1969

U.S. officials say they have found smoking-gun evidence of Iranian support for terrorists in Iraq: brand-new weapons fresh from Iranian factories. According to a senior defense official, coalition forces have recently seized Iranian-made weapons and munitions that bear manufacturing dates in 2006.

This suggests, say the sources, that the material is going directly from Iranian factories to Shia militias, rather than taking a roundabout path through the black market. "There is no way this could be done without (Iranian) government approval," says a senior official.

Iranian-made munitions found in Iraq include advanced IEDs designed to pierce armor and anti-tank weapons. U.S. intelligence believes the weapons have been supplied to Iraq's growing Shia militias from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, which is also believed to be training Iraqi militia fighters in Iran.

Evidence is mounting, too, that the most powerful militia in Iraq, Moktada al-Sadr's Mahdi army, is receiving training support from the Iranian-backed terrorists of Hezbollah.

Two senior U.S. defense officials confirmed to ABC News earlier reports that fighters from the Mahdi army have traveled to Lebanon to receive training from Hezbollah.

While the New York Times reported that as many as 2,000 Iraqi militia fighters had received training in Lebanon, one of the senior officials said he believed the number was "closer to 1,000." Officials say a much smaller number of Hezbollah fighters have also traveled through Syria and into Iraq to provide training.

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KEYWORDS: bombirannow; iran; iraq; taketheglovesoff
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1 posted on 11/30/2006 8:19:14 AM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Bomb Iran.


2 posted on 11/30/2006 8:20:36 AM PST by Arm_Bears (See Rock City!)
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To: jmc1969

big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?


3 posted on 11/30/2006 8:20:48 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: jmc1969; melancholy
Now, why doesn't this surprise me?

BOMB IRAN, NOW!!!

Nancee

4 posted on 11/30/2006 8:21:39 AM PST by Nancee ((Nancee Lynn Cheney))
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To: Arm_Bears

No, no no. Jim Baker says we need to TALK with Iran, and that they can help us in Iraq.

< / assininity>


5 posted on 11/30/2006 8:22:23 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Crusades were indigenous peoples' counter-attacks against imperialist foreign Muslim invaders)
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To: jmc1969

Sounds like an act of war to me.

It's time to enagage these bastards.


6 posted on 11/30/2006 8:22:47 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("A suicide bomber may be a weak weapon, but not against a suicide culture." - Steyn)
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To: jmc1969

7 posted on 11/30/2006 8:23:14 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Sadr, you magnificent bastard!


8 posted on 11/30/2006 8:23:27 AM PST by jdm
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To: jmc1969

Blow the Sh!t out of their 5 largests dams that will keep them busy for a while.


9 posted on 11/30/2006 8:23:34 AM PST by Walkingfeather (u)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Leaving Iraq via Iran might not be a bad idea.


10 posted on 11/30/2006 8:23:37 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Arm_Bears

No, no, no. You've got to talk to them. /major sarcasm

Well, this is how Baker et Co want to handle the situation. And they are "realists" according to the accepted nomenclature.

(Shakes head in disbelief.)


11 posted on 11/30/2006 8:24:02 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: WoofDog123

Very simple answer. NOTHING!


12 posted on 11/30/2006 8:24:30 AM PST by Shane
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To: WoofDog123
Our troops are in a war zone being killed, and we know the neighboring hostile country is providing weapons to the killers. The only sensible course is to threaten Iran and prepare to follow through if they do not pull back.

If we don't do that, Iran will continue and increase it's activities and more of our troops (and civilians) will die. We should not stand for that.

13 posted on 11/30/2006 8:24:52 AM PST by Williams
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To: jmc1969
Our immediate response to this news should be...


14 posted on 11/30/2006 8:25:40 AM PST by Lucky9teen (No matter who you vote for, the government wins.)
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To: Vaquero

Easy now, let's not start throwing nukes around. An MOAB would do the job nicely.


15 posted on 11/30/2006 8:25:42 AM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jmc1969


BOMB IRAN UNTIL THEY SURRENDER....UNCONDITIONALLY.


16 posted on 11/30/2006 8:25:57 AM PST by TOneocon
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To: jmc1969

I'm shocted.

I'm stuned.



17 posted on 11/30/2006 8:26:27 AM PST by Thrusher ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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To: Vaquero
You are playing my tune.

Nut-men-a-job wants nukes, lets give it to him, and end the Islamic revolution for a thousand years.

Or we can lose millions of lives while fighting these pigs.

18 posted on 11/30/2006 8:27:17 AM PST by lormand (I sell taglines such as this one - PayPal accepted)
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

You mean other than kowtow to the all-mighty Baker commission and ask Iran for "help" in Iraq?

19 posted on 11/30/2006 8:27:30 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: jmc1969

What are we waiting for?

We dont have to invade.

Bombs we got.

Take out their nuke sites and blast anything trying to cross the border.


20 posted on 11/30/2006 8:27:32 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: jmc1969
I have a feeling that the only reason ABC
went with this story was to prevent being
scooped by another news outfit.

It's inevitable, we will have to start
harming Iranian and Syrian interests sometime.
We've all known it was heading in this direction....JJ61
21 posted on 11/30/2006 8:27:44 AM PST by JerseyJohn61 (Better Late Than Never.......sometimes over lapping is worth the effort....)
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To: jmc1969

iran needs to be threatened. time to take off the gloves. if this report is true, american blood is on the iranians hands.


22 posted on 11/30/2006 8:27:46 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: jmc1969
OK...When are the Democrats going to surrender to Iran?


23 posted on 11/30/2006 8:27:55 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: jmc1969

Time has long past to turn that cesspool of Iran into a part of the Persian Gulf. Amen.


24 posted on 11/30/2006 8:28:07 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: jmc1969

Look for some last minute revisions to the Iraq Study Group recommendations. *snicker*


25 posted on 11/30/2006 8:28:08 AM PST by eureka! (May the voters see the light next time.....)
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To: jmc1969

I guess there is only one thing to do. Turn Iran into a glass factory.


26 posted on 11/30/2006 8:28:18 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

Why, We'll send in this Iranian expert!


27 posted on 11/30/2006 8:28:26 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: jmc1969

Iran doesn't give a rip because they know how we operate. Rice will take the matter to the U.N. who will produce a series of non-threatening decarations against Iran for the next 20 years.


28 posted on 11/30/2006 8:28:44 AM PST by Fighting Irish (My opinions have been forged by where I've walked - not by who I hear on the radio)
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To: philsfan24
iran needs to be threatened

I know, why don't you get the UN to give them a "harsh reprimand."

Threatened? Threatened? Times up. Start carpet bombing.

29 posted on 11/30/2006 8:28:56 AM PST by craig_eddy
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To: jmc1969
We should be doing everything within our power to destabilize Iran - including wet operations directed against Iran's mullahs, high government officials and against Khameni and Ahmanutjob themselves. We should also be flooding Iran's opposition groups with money and weapons.

The mullahs have declared war on the U.S. by directly arming those killing our troops - it's time we responded in kind.
30 posted on 11/30/2006 8:29:00 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: jmc1969

Now that the Dems have regained Congress....ABC discovers THIS?


31 posted on 11/30/2006 8:29:29 AM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

Big answer: Nothing, nada, zip. We've known this was going on for 1-2 years now, and the Administration has done nothing about it. In that sense, Iraq is like Vietnam, and Iran and Syria are Cambodia and Laos - untouchable avenues for troops and materials being used to KILL American troops with impunity. Of the Bush failures in Iraq, this is the biggest in my book.

And now, with that incredible piece of crap commissin report set to come out, the President won't even have the political will to do something about it. His hands will be tied politically.

32 posted on 11/30/2006 8:29:31 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: jmc1969

Our country sure puts up with a lot of crap. I am sick and tired of being jerk-****** all the time.


33 posted on 11/30/2006 8:29:59 AM PST by lesko
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To: jmc1969

What is amaxing about this is that this is considered news by ABC.


34 posted on 11/30/2006 8:30:20 AM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: Arm_Bears

We can't do that. Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and the gang think Iran is our friend and ally just like Syria and North Korea. They've never met an enemy that they didn't love and respect and feel sorry for. It's "hug a terrorist" month in DC.


35 posted on 11/30/2006 8:30:37 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: wastedyears
"An MOAB would do the job nicely."

I wish there were historical facts to back that up, but there are none.

However, we know that dropping nukes on those hell bent on killing us AND themselves do end wars.

36 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:13 AM PST by lormand (I sell taglines such as this one - PayPal accepted)
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To: jmc1969
And W's new team wants to have a pow wow? Tell me there is some sort of strategery going on or my head might explode.
37 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:20 AM PST by Miss Didi
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To: jmc1969

Any law that says Iran cannot make stuff or sell or give them to anyone?


38 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:37 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: jmc1969

Close the borders to Iran, Syria, and anywhere else that is a potential source.

Then kill anything that tries to move across the border.

Good chance to bomb Iran and Frances' factories

that supply weapons to our enemies,

sending the message,

that we are going to win at all cost.


39 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:38 AM PST by Son House
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To: Lucky9teen

40 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:44 AM PST by Lucky9teen (No matter who you vote for, the government wins.)
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To: lesko

Get used to it. The incoming Liberals will be "jerking ***, the American people starting in January.


41 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:53 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jmc1969

Exclusive? Didn't we hear about this two years ago?


42 posted on 11/30/2006 8:31:57 AM PST by mak5
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To: jmc1969

I am not an expert on military preparedness, so maybe someone else can enlighten me. Do we currently have the resources to engage Iraqi terrorists, the Taliban in Afghanistan AND Iran at once, while still having enough in reserve for the "unexpected" need to fight (1) another terrorist sponsor, (2) North Korea or (God forbid) (3) China or Russia, if need be?

If not, how fast can we assemble these resources, and what will it take?


43 posted on 11/30/2006 8:32:00 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: WoofDog123

Nothing.


This is an act of war with Iran caught red handed in it.


44 posted on 11/30/2006 8:32:00 AM PST by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Fighting Irish

Yep. Because of Russia and China's support combined with Europe's fractured nature, Iran can do whatever it wants, and they will.


45 posted on 11/30/2006 8:32:14 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: goodnesswins
Excellent point...I thought the same thing--is this ABC News reporting this?
46 posted on 11/30/2006 8:32:54 AM PST by Miss Didi
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Well, they are merely coming to the aid of the Shia militias which are a political party with representation in the Iraqi parliament and cabinet, and which have kept al-Maliki in power. It's not an invasion or act of war against Iraq-- though it could be against us.


47 posted on 11/30/2006 8:33:22 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: jmc1969
It's time to stop pussy footing around.

NUKE IRAN!!!

48 posted on 11/30/2006 8:35:53 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: jmc1969

Okay? So, what do we do about it?

The MSM and the Democrat-controlled Congress will be talking about "Crazy Bush" and how we must solve this diplomatically.

The Iranians are providing new weapons, NOW, that are killing American troops. What more do we need to know?


49 posted on 11/30/2006 8:36:21 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: jmc1969

Why should Iran quit? After this election they know the US will only stay in Iraq until the end of the Bush administration. If we do not have the will to stay in Iraq,
we are not doing anything to Iraq unless they are so stupid as
to attack the US directly and openly.


50 posted on 11/30/2006 8:37:12 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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