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EXCLUSIVE: Iranian Weapons Arm Iraqi Militia
ABC News ^ | November 30 2006 | JONATHAN KARL AND MARTIN CLANCY

Posted on 11/30/2006 8:19:10 AM PST by jmc1969

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To: jmc1969

President Bush should come out and say publicly, "The next coalition force member that is killed by a weapon or IED that can be linked to being manufactured in Iran or by a member of Iran, the United States will view as a Declaration of War."


51 posted on 11/30/2006 8:37:54 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: jmc1969

If they know exactly where the factories are then we need to take them out.


52 posted on 11/30/2006 8:38:10 AM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Brad Cloven
No, no no. Jim Baker says we need to TALK with Iran, and that they can help us in Iraq.

Nothing wrong with talking as long as you don't stop shooting

It is the phony truce/talks while the bad guys re-arm that gets ya
53 posted on 11/30/2006 8:38:28 AM PST by uncbob
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To: jmc1969
The Iranians/Persians are the most cowardly warriors that I have ever heard of.

Instead of fighting honorably, they hide behind terrorists, women, children, etc.

54 posted on 11/30/2006 8:38:30 AM PST by demsux
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To: jmc1969
I am getting so sick and tired of hearing this type of news knowing that our government is not going to do anything about it or even come out and publicly accuse Iran and Syria of instigating and assisting in the destablizing of Iraq.

I almost wish I could go over there and do something about it myself.

55 posted on 11/30/2006 8:38:36 AM PST by pctech
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To: jmc1969
click:


BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,
BOMB, BOMB IRAN!

56 posted on 11/30/2006 8:38:55 AM PST by XR7
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To: demsux
The Iranians/Persians are the most cowardly warriors that I have ever heard of. Instead of fighting honorably, they hide behind terrorists, women, children, etc.

Please. They are fighting the only way they can. To fight "honorably" is suicide. We didn't fight the British "honorably" during the Revolution. You fight the way that gives you the military advantage.

57 posted on 11/30/2006 8:43:05 AM PST by kabar
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

President Bush is already workin' hard making the tough decisions to do the hard work of workin' hard.

58 posted on 11/30/2006 8:43:27 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

Good question. Here's a thought.

Invite the leadership of the various Iranian dissident groups to Iraq, for weapons training on the newest and greatest US technology, then let them take it back home with them.

Iran would make a great testing ground for our new weapons systems, like that new assault rifle that lobs frag grenades so that they burst directly over the heads of bad guys hiding behind cover.

Especially if it doesn't risk US troops.

Nothing like a little home-grown insurgency to distract the Mullahs from international mischief...

59 posted on 11/30/2006 8:43:46 AM PST by Kenton
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To: jmc1969

High time to "negotiate" with Iran and Syria...


60 posted on 11/30/2006 8:43:54 AM PST by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: jmc1969

They're playin' that old Beach Boys tune in my head again...


61 posted on 11/30/2006 8:44:09 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: XR7

62 posted on 11/30/2006 8:45:21 AM PST by Lucky9teen (No matter who you vote for, the government wins.)
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To: lormand
Nut-men-a-job wants nukes, lets give it to him, and end the Islamic revolution for a thousand years.

We could give him one as a token of peace with a remotely-armed fuse from one of their IEDS that we have found hooked to the detonation mechanism.

James Baker could deliver it. "We recognize your desire for nuclear weapons, so as a sign of our willingness to assist in your endeavors, please accept this Trident missle tipped with active warheads."

30 minutes after all Americans are out of harm's way, BOOM!
63 posted on 11/30/2006 8:45:26 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: kabar
We didn't fight the British "honorably" during the Revolution.

Bad analogy. We didn't blow up innocent children, cut women's throats, etc..

64 posted on 11/30/2006 8:45:42 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: jmc1969
U.S. officials say they have found smoking-gun evidence of Iranian support for terrorists in Iraq: brand-new weapons fresh from Iranian factories. According to a senior defense official, coalition forces have recently seized Iranian-made weapons and munitions that bear manufacturing dates in 2006.

Of course Iran wants the US to lose the war. Iran wants to control Iraq.

Bush was trying to get the word out to the voters before the elections, but the liberal press was too busy campaigning for the democrats and people didn't get the whole story.

(He who controls communication controls the world. Reality is created by the press. What isn't reported is just as important as what is.)

65 posted on 11/30/2006 8:46:45 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: rightinthemiddle
What more do we need to know?

That there is a government constituency that has asked for the weapons and are appreciative because it means they can fight Sunnis? The alternative is for us to arm the Shia militias.

66 posted on 11/30/2006 8:47:30 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: jmc1969

I love how MSM media outlets report on facts that have been known for months if not years as if they were the first to discover it - yesterday!


67 posted on 11/30/2006 8:48:25 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: jmc1969

I asked Jveritas to do a guest essay about this on my website, http://therobb7.bravejournal.com/

You'll find it on the Wednesday October 4th entry.

These weapons are coming from EVERYWHERE and it's past time to do something.


68 posted on 11/30/2006 8:48:27 AM PST by TheRobb7 (Border security is NOT Racism...it's PATRIOTISM.)
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To: Thrusher

"shocted, stuned."

That's series! This could be hugh!

We'll probably do the same with them as North Korea, stop iPod imports.


69 posted on 11/30/2006 8:48:32 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: jmc1969
I thought we had proof for at least a year ago that Iran was supplying improved IEDs that were killing and maiming our soldiers. We should have done something about that they day we had proof. Our young men and women deserve it.
70 posted on 11/30/2006 8:48:46 AM PST by McGruff
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

Thanks to the Democrats and the anitwar liberals in the media .. there ain't much we can do about it

All part of the sad lesson we are all about to learn

71 posted on 11/30/2006 8:49:40 AM PST by Mo1 (Thank You Mr & Mrs "I'm gonna teach you a lesson" Voter ... you just screwed us on so many levels)
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To: jmc1969

Let the code verifications begin............


72 posted on 11/30/2006 8:50:34 AM PST by sappy
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To: darkwing104
OK...When are the Democrats going to surrender to Iran?

Are you kidding? The DUmmies have been praising Iran ever since they received their letter of support from the Iranian mad man yesterday. He's their newly elected God of the year.

73 posted on 11/30/2006 8:50:44 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Rennes Templar
We'll probably do the same with them as North Korea, stop iPod imports.

I'm pretty sure denying them meaningful access to iPods is against the Geneva Convention.
74 posted on 11/30/2006 8:50:58 AM PST by Thrusher ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.")
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To: goodnesswins
Now that the Dems have regained Congress....ABC discovers THIS?

Expect a LOT more of that from all the usual suspects. It's their message to the RATs that "we made you, we can break you," letting the RATs know who is really in charge.

(cue Manuel ... "I will get your bill")

75 posted on 11/30/2006 8:51:53 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: Williams

move troops out of the cities and to the borders. Let the Iraqi troops/police deal with the cities, with our guys on stand by to come in to take care of situations.


76 posted on 11/30/2006 8:52:36 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: jmc1969

Nuke'em til they glow...

Then shoot'em in the dark


77 posted on 11/30/2006 8:52:38 AM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: Brad Cloven

We need to talk to the bastards, all right. Maybe: back out of Iraq or we will join with the Israelis and bomb the heck out of your military facilities. We could take on the Iransins while the Israelis handled the Syrians. How do you say that in diplomatize?


78 posted on 11/30/2006 8:53:46 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Brad Cloven

"Jim Baker says we need to TALK with Iran"

We need to talk to them about how we will knock the crap out of them.


79 posted on 11/30/2006 8:56:44 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: craig_eddy

"I know, why don't you get the UN to give them a "harsh reprimand."

Threatened? Threatened? Times up. Start carpet bombing."

screw the useless un. you need to give them one warning. they screw up, then start the carpet bombing.


80 posted on 11/30/2006 8:57:48 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: TexasCajun

That Carter moron makes me sick. The real poster boy for Presidential failure.


81 posted on 11/30/2006 8:57:52 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: jmc1969

The way I figure it, the world already views Bush as the Devil and America as a fascist, over-bearing, colonizing country. Let's just BE that country and show the world what America would be like if we WERE a fascist, over-bearing, colonizing country with a Devil as its leader. Oh, and immediately sanction ourselves from sending financial aid to ANYONE.


82 posted on 11/30/2006 8:59:52 AM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Sorry soldiers.....your country let you down on November 7.)
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To: jmc1969
I fear the Bush legacy will be that he led us into a war of "planting Democracy" in the Islamic world, before we had plowed under the Islamists who lived on the land. Far too few Islamists were destroyed and the Islamic world surrounding Afghanistan and Iraq have been freely participating in fighting the "coalition" without paying a price for that action. His early insistence that "Islam is a religion of peace" was his first error..

Perhaps his greatest success was turning Afghanistan and Iraq into the world's greatest killing field for Islamists - attracting Jihadists from around to world to their death -- and providing the arena for Islamists to kill one another in the struggle of Shiites against Sunnis.

The enemy is militant Islam, not terrorism.
The enemy is ANY nation who supports, celebrates or encourages the Islamic terrorists.

It remains my opinion we have been far too restrained in delivering the level of destruction necessary to defeat or punish the enemy.

This enemy will not be so inclined.
By now we should have learned that militant Islamics negotiate "peace" only to survive in order to rebuild strength to attack again... It has always been so.

Semper Fi

83 posted on 11/30/2006 8:59:57 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: TexasCajun

For me, the high point of the Carter "Presidency" was when he beat Teddy Kennedy for the 1980 nomination. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


84 posted on 11/30/2006 9:00:56 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

85 posted on 11/30/2006 9:02:40 AM PST by nutmeg (In 2008 we will crush the Democrats like the cockroaches they are! -- Mark Levin 11-8-06)
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To: Nancee
Now, why doesn't this surprise me?

We've got to go on a media blitz before the Air Force blitz. Our military should put it on display and invite the press, including al Jezzera, to see it.

Of course, some of the MSM reporters will call in sick with diarrhea and whoever attends will get real diarrhea!

86 posted on 11/30/2006 9:02:54 AM PST by melancholy
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To: jmc1969

How can anyone possibly be surprised?


87 posted on 11/30/2006 9:04:36 AM PST by sarasota
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To: Jeff Chandler

But isn't that what John Kerry said we did?


88 posted on 11/30/2006 9:04:41 AM PST by Lucky9teen (No matter who you vote for, the government wins.)
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To: jmc1969

Sorry, forgot to post you on #86.


89 posted on 11/30/2006 9:05:52 AM PST by melancholy
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To: reagan_fanatic

Take a deep breath and think about this....

Maybe they are supplying arms/explosives to the Shii'as *because* we are doing a pretty good job of destablization in Iran.

The KDP has been raising Cain all over the northern Iraq/Iran AO. Who is paying for it remains to be seen.


90 posted on 11/30/2006 9:06:03 AM PST by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: Arm_Bears

Anyone care to theorize what would be happening in Iraq and/or U.S. right now if the U.S. had never gone into Iraq and Saddam was still in power?


91 posted on 11/30/2006 9:07:23 AM PST by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: dinoparty

When you have a chance the paper below is worth reading. The U.S. is still in good shape:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20060301faessay85204/keir-a-lieber-daryl-g-press/the-rise-of-u-s-nuclear-primacy.html


92 posted on 11/30/2006 9:08:57 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: lormand

Lose 500,000 now or lose 500,000,000 later: It's up to Nancy Pelosi. Which will she choose?


93 posted on 11/30/2006 9:15:23 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: jmc1969

The US is fighting groups armed by Iran and trained by Hezbollah (backed by Syria and Iran).

Now forget that you know.

Because if it rattles inside your head, your blood pressure will go up, you will get anxious, and you will want to scream at an Administration that will allow the US to be defeated by these barbarians.

An Administration that asked Israel for restraint fighting Hezbollah and finally saved Hezbollah by agreeing to a French/Arab cease fire which allows Hezbolla to get back to its main current interest- training terrorists to kill Americans in Iraq.

An Administration that has been threatening Iran for years but throws carrots at them on bended knee begging them to stop their nuclear development. Getting from the Iranians deserved contempt in return.

What concerns the US? These arms and the training that's killing Americans? No. What concerns Rice today is that Israel should do more to help the terrorists. That Israeli security is humiliating to the terrorists.

Many will blame the election and the Democrats. What has Bush done for the previous three years? Sure, he sent Karen Hughes to explain to them why they should like us. But that didn't seem to take.

You don't want to believe it, neither do I. We are going to lose. Israel is going to lose too- having already lost their minds.

There is no winning unless- at a start- Iran and Syria are taken on. If you believe they will be- I hope you are right.

If there is any chance of for some sort of American success in Iraq, and elsewhere, it will start with Bush firing appeaser Rice and publicly throwing the Baker report into the garbage. And then go to war against those Nations- not just shadowy terrorists but named nations- at war with us.

Either we win or they win. They win if it's a draw.


94 posted on 11/30/2006 9:15:33 AM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: WoofDog123
big question is what will the US do about it, publicly or otherwise?

Any full scale war with Iran would be foolhardly, and would undercut the sizable anti-Immamist elements in Iran, but I don't think the antigovernment protesters would have much problem with our taking out a few Revolutionary Guard bases near the border. As a warning we might take out just one base, but task a freakin' wing of B-2s and blanket the sucker with bombs so that not even a cockroach remains alive.

Just a thought.

95 posted on 11/30/2006 9:17:14 AM PST by Stultis
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To: jmc1969; George W. Bush; P-Marlowe; SandRat

Since we're fighting Iran, we might as well fight Iran.

Come on, Pres. Bush, do the right thing. If Iran is killing us, they have blood-guilt.


96 posted on 11/30/2006 9:17:34 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: XR7

I'm gonna re-write the Beach Boys' "Barbara Ann."


97 posted on 11/30/2006 9:19:01 AM PST by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Muzzle_em

Continued thwarting of "inspections," by Saddam would make the headlines, and Iran would be flying under the radar, probably already with a Nuke. We would still be based in the "holy land" Saudi Arabia, acting as the best propaganda tool available to Al Queda. We might have been struck again here at home, as Al Queda would not be pre-occupied with fighting in Iraq. We would not be in Iraq, in position to pounce on Iran or Syria if need be. Democrats would be bellowing about how we lost our opportunity to take out Saddam when we had the chance.


98 posted on 11/30/2006 9:19:39 AM PST by dinoparty
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To: RaceBannon
"It's up to Nancy Pelosi. Which will she choose? "

It appears she is willing to wear a burqa on this one.

99 posted on 11/30/2006 9:21:54 AM PST by lormand (I sell taglines such as this one - PayPal accepted)
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To: Muzzle_em

Oh, forgot to add: Israel might have taken out Saddam itself by now, after Saddam lends increasing support to Hezbollah and Hamas.


100 posted on 11/30/2006 9:22:02 AM PST by dinoparty
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