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To: dangus
But the losses to the Republican Party struck largely at the "centrist" wing.

No centrists, no majority ever again. We'd better hope some RINOs can win in those marginal districts in 2008.

11 posted on 11/30/2006 4:21:11 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
No centrists, no majority ever again. We'd better hope some RINOs can win in those marginal districts in 2008.

Agreed. I may be in the minority here, but thinking that we can have a Republican majority without any 'RINO' is delusional.

17 posted on 11/30/2006 4:27:50 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
No centrists, no majority ever again. We'd better hope some RINOs can win in those marginal districts in 2008.

Oh B.S.! No Rinos, NO DEFEAT! The reason why Repubs lost is exactly because of the rino factor. kowtowing to DBM/dems, putting factions together to defeat conservative ideas. All rinos need to be squarely defeated or move to the ass party and repubs need to either condone a conservative agenda and IMPLEMENT it, or stay in the minority.

20 posted on 11/30/2006 4:30:14 PM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The fault is in seeing politics as a spectrum from left to right. There is no-one who wants candidates who take weak and flip-flopping positions on any given issue. Rather, voters have certain issues that they agree with conservatives on, certain issues that they agree with liberals on. Also, there are certain issues that voters would get active about if they were vrought to forefront, issues that voters actually base their votes on, and issues that voters don't care much about.

Voters will support based not on simply how conservative or liberal the candidate is, but on whether the voter believes strongly about an issue, and whether the voter believes that the candidate will act forcefully to fulfill the voter's wishes.

Frequently, Democrats can get elected by faking conservative positions, like Mary Landrieu, Bill Nelson, Bill Clinton, Jim Webb, and Bill Casey. Republicans who adopt liberal positions usually lose however: Issues voters feel liberal out cause them to vote Democrat, not Democrat-Lite Republican. All RINO-ism does is reduce the number of reasons to vote conservative, so that those issues are outweighed by reasons to vote liberal. Worse still, when voters see Republicans abandon their core beliefs in moderate areas, it convinces them that Republicans are the party of big government also, and this breeds voter apathy and cynicism about more conservative candidates.


29 posted on 11/30/2006 4:37:58 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
No centrists, no majority ever again. We'd better hope some RINOs can win in those marginal districts in 2008

You're kidding, right?

Conservatives win even in traditional democratic strongholds when they know how to lead, instruct and stay connected with the common people. Reagan did it on a grand scale, but there are hundreds of Brent Schundlers out there who can do it locally. The key is to get them past the party machinery who prefers to choose from within the inbred country club crowd.

36 posted on 11/30/2006 4:52:07 PM PST by Huber ("Tradition means giving votes to the most obscure of classes - our ancestors." - G K Chesterton)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Terminology to results are different things. A "moderate" Republican who tries to attract the right seems to lose more often that not. A "conservative" Republican who is willing to bend and listen to the moderates has a better chance of winning.


43 posted on 11/30/2006 5:10:39 PM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: Mr. Jeeves
No centrists, no majority ever again.

Oxymoron, you can never have a majority with the devil as a partner.

90 posted on 12/01/2006 7:37:24 AM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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