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How many hospitals would Jesus close? (Freeper op-ed)
Freeport Ink (Freeport, IL) | 30 Nov 06 | Me

Posted on 11/30/2006 9:48:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback

Elvira Arellano’s new T-shirt has me wondering how many hospitals Jesus would close.

Arellano is the illegal alien and pro-law breaking activist (she wouldn’t call herself that, but a spade is a spade) who is holed up in a Chicago church, hoping to avoid deportation. She says she should get to stay here because her 7 year old son Saulito is an American citizen. Her new shirt, pictured in the Journal-Standard recently, reads “Who Would Jesus Deport?”

Strangely, I don’t recall hearing any teachings on immigration policy during my Sunday school days. But given the wild success of products asking “WWJD”—What Would Jesus Do—it’s inevitable it would pop up in the political discourse. Strikingly, almost all these political versions come from the Left. True, questions like “Who would Jesus Torture” are supposed to be rhetorical, but if the people asking them were really trying to promote truth, they wouldn’t stop asking questions so soon.

Take for example, “Who would Jesus bomb,” asked on protest signs and blogs, in editorials and even a protest song. Another popular variation was “Who would Jesus kill?” Yet they never ask how many hijacking schools, terrorist training camps, child prisons and torture chambers Jesus would leave open. In the face of great evil even a slogan inspired by history’s greatest moral light is trite and bereft of sense.

I wonder why the Left doesn’t apply the WWJD principle to other problems. How many of those asking “Who would Jesus kill” have ever asked, “Who would Jesus abort?” One might also ask, “How many condoms would Jesus pass out at school,” and “Would Jesus ban prayer in school?” Of course, one could also ask why a movement known for its strict view of separation of church and state would decide to search the scriptures of a single religion for policy directives.

So, how many hospitals would Jesus close? A 2005 study appearing in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons found that 60 hospitals had closed in California alone between 1993 and 2003 as a direct result of illegal immigration. Under the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1985, hospitals must treat the uninsured without reimbursement. Though the law was intended to guarantee that no emergency room would turn away a patient in crisis, it’s led to illegals using ERs for their primary care. Those 60 hospitals had all reached a point where they were paid for less than half of the services they performed. The study also found 24 hospitals on the brink of bankruptcy.

Whose wages would Jesus decimate? In 1980, according to the Department of Labor, a meat packer could expect to make $19 an hour. Today the going wage is less than $10. Across the board, American wages are lowered by as much as $200 billion dollars by illegal aliens. The Left speaks a lot about the squeezed middle class, but these champions of the working man will line up to vote for amnesty in Congress in the new year.

How many false Social Security numbers would Jesus use? Arellano was going to be deported because she convicted of that exact crime. The immigration bill the Congress narrowly rejected this year even had provisions for paying out Social Security benefits to those who’ve stolen other people’s numbers. Of course that only applies if they came over the border illegally; legal immigrants and native born citizens get to go to jail when they steal someone’s identity.

A long line of Christian organizations, notably America’s Catholic bishops, backed amnesty this year. They made a lot of noise about how such reforms were a sign of loving one’s neighbor. When we reward lawbreaking on the part of illegals and the businesses that hire them we penalize businesses, workers and legal immigrants that follow the law. Aren’t they our neighbors too? Is shafting them the Christian thing to do? Is the cause of justice served by letting Mexico’s fatcats export their poor to the U.S. instead of enacting reforms at home?

Of course, despite my love of Christ, I’m not interested in governing by Bible verse. That’s theocracy, not democracy. Even if a principle is based in Christian teachings, one must win the public policy debate to implement it. That’s the real reason for Elvira’s shirt. If you can pretend the Almighty is your personal mascot, you don’t have to explain why rewarding lawbreaking is good for a society. You can just “win” the policy debate by saying “Thus saith the Lord.” When a conservative does that, he’s dismissed and rightly so.

We’re a nation of laws (not T-shirts), and our duty to enforce them in a just manner. Still, if Arellano and her allies want a verse to base immigration policy on, I suggest John 10:1.


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The WWJD phrase is, of course, taken from the classic Christian novel In His Steps. I find it telling that even though the author, Charles M. Sheldon, was a major figure in the social gospel movement and could be called a Christian socialist, his book doesn't portray anyone running out and forcing people to help the poor through government. Instead, he portrays people taking sacrificial action in their own lives. Here's what Chuck Colson wrote about it a few years ago:

The editor of the local newspaper has been accepting lucrative ads from the local saloons. Would Jesus do this? No, he decides--and cancels the ads.

A young singer gives up a promising career on the stage to sing at tent meetings on Skid Row. A young heiress takes in a homeless woman, to the horror of her fashionable family. A businessman decides that Jesus wants him to make his tenements as warm and comfortable as his own home.

Maybe the churchcommies could take a lesson...

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1 posted on 11/30/2006 9:48:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback
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To: Mr. Silverback
wonder why the Left doesn’t apply the WWJD principle to other problems. How many of those asking “Who would Jesus kill” have ever asked, “Who would Jesus abort?” One might also ask, “How many condoms would Jesus pass out at school,” and “Would Jesus ban prayer in school?”

Hah! Wonderful job!

2 posted on 11/30/2006 9:51:37 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Mr. Silverback

Spot on sir, spot on.

ps: Please add me to your list.


3 posted on 11/30/2006 9:53:20 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: 185JHP; afraidfortherepublic; aragona; arthurus; BlessedByLiberty; blitzgig; Blurblogger; ...

Silverback's column ping!

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4 posted on 11/30/2006 9:53:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

Thank you! You're added, see you in two weeks.


5 posted on 11/30/2006 9:58:42 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Thank you!


6 posted on 11/30/2006 9:59:00 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Would Jesus skip paying taxes?

Would Jesus approve of reverse discrimination?


7 posted on 11/30/2006 9:59:28 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Mr. Silverback
"Who Would Jesus Deport?”" - why, the devils, of course. He used to cast them into the Gadarene swine, or merely out.
8 posted on 11/30/2006 10:00:06 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Mr. Silverback
How many illegals would Jesus let in?
How many illegals would Jesus let out of county jails?
Would Jesus give California drivers' licenses to the illegals?
Would Jesus give amnesty to the illegals?
Would Jesus let the illegals bankrupt the state treasury?
Would Jesus let the illegals hang the stars and stripes upside down?
9 posted on 11/30/2006 10:06:24 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Mr. Silverback

WIWJS

Whose identity would Jesus steal?

Muy, muy bien, Mr. Silverback.


10 posted on 11/30/2006 10:08:01 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Despair is not a strategy.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I’m not interested in governing by Bible verse.

Our Founders looked to the scripture for advice and we have a republic.

11 posted on 11/30/2006 10:08:42 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Nachum
Would Jesus care if a poor working man was "illegal" or not?

Would Jesus even use the word, "illegal" when describing a human being?

Just a question from the sidelines.

12 posted on 11/30/2006 10:08:53 PM PST by Wormwood (Enjoy this post while it lasts!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Excellent op-ed. Thanks for writing this.

I get the same mild irritation at this kind of silly thinking when I see the oh-so-sophisticated academics in our town putting out signs on their yards that say “War is not the answer.”
13 posted on 11/30/2006 10:09:39 PM PST by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: Mr. Silverback
We’re a nation of laws (not T-shirts)

I think the Left would say we are a Nation of Bumperstickers. You know what they say, "Speaking Truth to Power at 35 m.p.h. on the back-end of a 1988 Volvo."

14 posted on 11/30/2006 10:10:54 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Despair is not a strategy.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Please add me too. Great job!


15 posted on 11/30/2006 10:18:16 PM PST by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

please add, thnxs


16 posted on 11/30/2006 10:19:27 PM PST by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Cinnamon

I forgot to work in, "Which racist and Communist groups would Jesus ally Himself with?"


17 posted on 11/30/2006 10:19:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
"If you can pretend the Almighty is your personal mascot, or your pet or your ego stroker ... I seem to recall a very successful sermon on something like 'It Is A Fearful Thing To Fall Into The Hands Of An Agry God'. But Hell and God's anger and wrath are not tolerant enough for today's liberal democrat elitists who claim to be christians as they defend and promote the slaughter of alive unborn children or when they push for cannibalizing the earliest aged humans, or push forward and admire the fetal tissue industry stocked by partial birth infanticide (Michigan has made it a 'good thing' to have bountiful tissue banks stocked from aborted Michigan children; they're so enlightened up there in Conyersland).
18 posted on 11/30/2006 10:21:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Wormwood
Would Jesus even use the word, "illegal" when describing a human being?

Okayyy. How about this...

How many poor working men who ran accross our border in the millions with out regard to other's property, jumped ahead of line of millions of other poor working men and then committed crimes then were captured and then wound up in jails would Jesus allow to come out and commit more crimes like theft, assault, rape, and murder?

Is that better?

Wait, here we go:

How many poor working men who cheated and jumped ahead of the line of other poor working men who followed the rules and obeyed our laws and then ran accross our borders would Jesus force the law abiding poor working men to give drivers licenses to?

Ah, maybe this will work:

Would Jesus let half of the hospitals in our state go broke because poor working men cheated other poor working men and jumped ahead of the line by not obeying the same rules that the poor working men here legally had obeyed their whole lives?

Does that work better for you?

19 posted on 11/30/2006 10:22:55 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thank you!


20 posted on 11/30/2006 10:25:20 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Couldn't agree with you more. Please add me to your ping list.


21 posted on 11/30/2006 10:26:26 PM PST by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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To: stainlessbanner
Our Founders looked to the scripture for advice and we have a republic.

There's a difference between guidance and theocracy. Heck, I'm the guy who runs the Breakpoint ping list, it's not as if I'm afraid of Chriistian input into government.

22 posted on 11/30/2006 10:26:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: rpierce

I once said, "War is not the answer to most questions. For example, 'War' is not the answer to "Why does Jell-O make such a lousy doorstop?'"


23 posted on 11/30/2006 10:28:42 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
,I>You know what they say, "Speaking Truth to Power at 35 m.p.h. on the back-end of a 1988 Volvo."

Or in post 12.

24 posted on 11/30/2006 10:29:43 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

That's what I was thinking, too. Or is that "Speaking Truthiness to Power"?


25 posted on 11/30/2006 10:31:20 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day (Despair is not a strategy.)
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To: MarkeyD

Thank you, and you're added!


26 posted on 11/30/2006 10:31:53 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
No I think (and I'll go say this to him directly) it's more like "I don't get the main point of the column, so I'll act just like Elvira."

But yeah, I have to give Colbert one thing, the word "truthiness" really does describe a real phenomenon perfectly, it just happens to describe something his side of the aisle is guilty of virtually all the time.

27 posted on 11/30/2006 10:38:20 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: investigateworld

You're added!


28 posted on 11/30/2006 10:39:54 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Great question....great post.


29 posted on 11/30/2006 10:41:50 PM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
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To: Nachum

Man, that was like watching someone walk a salvo of artillery rounds across a target. Nice work!


30 posted on 11/30/2006 10:44:50 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: 1lawlady
Couldn't agree with you more.

Well then you're obviously very wise. :-) You're added!

31 posted on 11/30/2006 10:46:17 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: bpjam

Thanks!


32 posted on 11/30/2006 10:47:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I stopped here:

...pro-law breaking activist...

Gibberish.

33 posted on 11/30/2006 10:48:40 PM PST by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain. IAGO: You are--a senator. ---Othello I.i.)
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To: Wormwood

Whoa mama, did you miss the point of this column! Why don't you go back and read the stuff I wrote in the last few paragraphs about people using the Almighty to stifle debate, OK?


34 posted on 11/30/2006 10:48:47 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Wormwood
Would Jesus care if a poor working man was "illegal" or not?

There is the case in the book of Philemon I believe... a slave who is a Christian runs away from his master. In this case Paul (who is the one who wrote the Epistle of Philemon) returns the slave to his master, but at the same time urges compassion and kindness. My take would be that the law needs to be followed, and the illegals returned to their country of origin, but without harsh treatment along the way.

35 posted on 11/30/2006 10:54:43 PM PST by ikka
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To: Petronski

***Gibberish.***

Arellano believes she should be able to do the following...

Enter our country illegally
Enter our country illegally a second time after being arrested and deported
Use a false SSN
Disobey a court order

...without penalty, and she runs an organization that promotes the idea that other illegal immigrants should be able to commit similar crimes without suffering the consequences.

So my question is, what part do you have a problem with, the idea that she broke the law or the idea that she supports breaking the law? Seems to me that she qualifies for both with flying colors.


36 posted on 11/30/2006 10:56:36 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
You can just “win” the policy debate by saying “Thus saith the Lord.” When a conservative does that, he’s dismissed and rightly so.

Jesus promised his followers, "you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended" (Mat. 24:9-10).

Occupational hazzard. Tough... When Conservatives act like they don't care for Jesus... I will move my vote elsewhere.

37 posted on 11/30/2006 10:58:39 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: Mr. Silverback
How many of those asking “Who would Jesus kill” have ever asked, “Who would Jesus abort?”

Insert Wild, Unrestrained Applause Here!!!!!!

38 posted on 11/30/2006 10:59:39 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("On 11/07/06, 'true' conservatives and 'rat traitors joined forces to bring Sharia law to America.")
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To: LowOiL

No offense (we agree on most stuff, it appears) but how did you get that I was saying conservative pols can't like Jesus? What I was describing is when someone says "I think this is what the Bible says about this, so there will be no further discussion." I am not describing people who say, "Here's this Bible teaching that our values as a Republic are based on" or other such pronouncements that seek to win over the public to a Biblical way of thinking.


39 posted on 11/30/2006 11:11:21 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Thank you, sir. Always an honor.


40 posted on 11/30/2006 11:12:14 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Follow-up to the question: "Who Would Jesus Abort?"

Some interesting bits in the Comments section, as well. :)

41 posted on 11/30/2006 11:16:51 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("On 11/07/06, 'true' conservatives and 'rat traitors joined forces to bring Sharia law to America.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
So, how many hospitals would Jesus close?

Since most of the hospitals would be sending their patients to Him for healing, probably a lot of hospitals could close their doors.

42 posted on 11/30/2006 11:18:24 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: pawdoggie

Excellent point, but then, we have to run our hospitals without His physical presence for now. Arellano's question is like that...Who would Jesus deport? Well, maybe Jesus would deport so and so, but Jesus isn't in charge of enforcing the laws you broke, lady. We are, and we're deporting your law-breaking hiney.


43 posted on 11/30/2006 11:22:41 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (We will need to crush the Iraq Study Group like we crushed Harriet Miers. Be ready.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
We’re a nation of laws (not T-shirts), and our duty to enforce them in a just manner.

Still, if Arellano and her allies want a verse to base immigration policy on, I suggest John 10:1.

O.K., I will admit that I did not get this reference when I first read it, so had to look it up.

From www.biblegateway.com:

"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber..."
:o)
44 posted on 11/30/2006 11:40:55 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Mr. Silverback
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45 posted on 11/30/2006 11:43:56 PM PST by RonDog
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To: Nachum

Or perhaps the following:

When Jesus was convicted by Pontius Pilote, did he:

a) wall himself up in a synagogue and plead for mercy
b) declare that this crimes weren't as great as some other person's
c) plead that this would inconvience his mother.
d) submit himself to the will of God and the decrees of the state.

And what would have happened if he had chosen a, b, or c?

Granted, that's a tough row to hoe, but there comes a point when you have to accept responsibility for your actions and trust in God to provide.


46 posted on 11/30/2006 11:52:46 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I have a rule: anyone with more than 3 bumperstickers on their car is officially declared mentally unstable.

Almost invariably, the 4+ sticker cars have an anti-W sticker or some other conglomeraton of "progressive" gibberish polluting my drive.


47 posted on 11/30/2006 11:57:19 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: ikka
Thanks for answering my (admittedly inflammatory) question.

I honestly appreciate it.

48 posted on 12/01/2006 4:20:21 AM PST by Wormwood (Enjoy this post while it lasts!)
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To: Wormwood

"Render unto Caesar" comes to mind.


49 posted on 12/01/2006 4:37:26 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Yes, well, great 'article', but you know the churchcommies would turn it back around and will simply answer in all transgressions, "What would Jesus do......?"
"Jesus would forgive"

personally, I'd like to know what Jesus has to do with it in the first place. Illegal immigration is a problem of our governments, it is not a church issue.


50 posted on 12/01/2006 6:20:08 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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