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Let It Rip: Romney's Illegal Landscapers (OOOPS!)
My Fox Boston ^ | 12/1/06

Posted on 12/01/2006 6:51:21 AM PST by areafiftyone

Boston -- Governor Mitt Romney has started his push for the White House, but a recent story could be damaging for Romney. Romney has been an advocate for rounding up illegal immigrants but he may have to take care of his own backyard. Check out what the FOX25 Morning News has to say right here on MyFoxBoston.com.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist; immigration; romney; tancredo; tancredoimplosion
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1 posted on 12/01/2006 6:51:23 AM PST by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

He hired a company that hired illegal aliens, apparently. He didn't hire them directly, as those who hire illegal nannies. This is like saying you have to check the immigration status of the workers next time you go to a restaurant.


2 posted on 12/01/2006 6:52:21 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: areafiftyone

Mitt letting this run early to see how it plays out????


3 posted on 12/01/2006 6:53:56 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: showme_the_Glory

I don't think so. Massachusetts Republicans are not happy with Mitt - He totally ignored them and gave money to Republicans in other states. I think this is a bit of revenge on their part.


4 posted on 12/01/2006 6:54:52 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: lady lawyer
Exactly. The story points out the company he hired is in Chelsea and if I recall that's in Massachusetts, and somehow Massachusetts is still a part of the United States.

When will the crackdown begin on companies that hire illegals? (rhetorical question)

5 posted on 12/01/2006 6:56:02 AM PST by lindor
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To: lady lawyer
Exactly. This is typical BS. My best part was how they diss him for being nice to them. I wonder if Romney ever bought anything from a store who hired illegals? Gasp! The hypocrite! Hahaha - let the conservative ranting begin (just as planned).
6 posted on 12/01/2006 6:56:51 AM PST by rhombus
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To: areafiftyone

Tom Tancredo will be rolling in the mud even more as he had his basement home theater built by guys named Jose and Pedro.


7 posted on 12/01/2006 6:57:42 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: lady lawyer

Why not? A contractor used by WalMart hired illegals, and it was WM that got into hot water and was on the receiving end of the bad press.


8 posted on 12/01/2006 7:00:16 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: areafiftyone

This reminds me of all the nannygate scandals a while back.

Some candidate or appointee would be caught having hired, knowingly or unknowingly, an illegal.

I'd better not run for office- the guys hired by my gardener to mow and blow my little patch of lawn, trim my bushes, and whack the dead leaves off the palm tree just may be here illegally!


9 posted on 12/01/2006 7:01:08 AM PST by DBrow
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To: Gabz

WalMart is a target because they are Republican, and donate a lot of money to Republican causes. That's why they got the treatment, too. They didn't, and they don't, deserve the attacks they are getting from the Left.


10 posted on 12/01/2006 7:02:52 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Dane

And if you've got proof they are illegals, *()&^%$$@, post it!


11 posted on 12/01/2006 7:04:02 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: areafiftyone

Lots more info here.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/12/01/illegal_immigrants_toiled_for_governor/

Romney: Do as I say, not as I do!!

LOL


12 posted on 12/01/2006 7:05:49 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: lady lawyer

I'm in complete agreement with you. I have no sympathy for those who hire illegals and get caught, but as you say, are we supposed to be responsible for checking out the status of the employees of a restaurant?

As a consumer should I stop buying chicken in the supermarket because many growers use illegals to catch the birds?


13 posted on 12/01/2006 7:09:52 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: lady lawyer
Community Lawn Service with a Heart?

That name should've been a dead giveaway.

14 posted on 12/01/2006 7:10:43 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: DBrow

If I recall correctly, wasn't Bernie K. basically FORCED to give up his appointement to Homeland Security, because of this issue?


15 posted on 12/01/2006 7:11:04 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: lady lawyer

deserve it or not, republicans need to be squeaky clean just to be considered. why can't we find someone who doesn't have any of these negatives?

maybe it ain't his fault, but do we need any more subtle cries that we are racist and exploitive?


16 posted on 12/01/2006 7:12:49 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Gabz

The newspeople said, "Well, he should have known. They were speaking Spanish." Okay. Does that mean that every time we are greeted by a Spanish speaking worker at a fast food restaurant, or anyplace else, that we're supposed to ask about their immigration status?

The fact is, even employers are between a rock and a hard place. The huge majority of these people present phony documents. The employer could verify social security numbers every time they got an Hispanic applicant, but then they'd be sued for discrimination under Title VII.

Sheesh.


17 posted on 12/01/2006 7:13:26 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: JRochelle

"Asked by a reporter yesterday about his use of Community Lawn Service with a Heart, Romney, who was hosting the Republican Governors Association conference in Miami, said, "Aw, geez," and walked away."


PRICELESS!!


18 posted on 12/01/2006 7:13:50 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: areafiftyone

The long knives are out for Romney.


19 posted on 12/01/2006 7:14:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: JRochelle

You people make me laugh. He hired a company to work on his yard. Was he expected to walk around and demand proof of status of everyone one of those workers?

Talk to the contractor that paid them, not the person who hired the contractor. What a joke...la


20 posted on 12/01/2006 7:14:42 AM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: lady lawyer

Your comparison is totally flawed.

And these illegals worked for him for 8 years.

My sister recently built a house. She made sure that none of the contracters and sub-contracters who worked on the house had illegals working there.

It is possible to obey the law.


21 posted on 12/01/2006 7:14:51 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Bernie was in trouble over fooling around with some woman in a love nest that he didn't pay for.


22 posted on 12/01/2006 7:15:20 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

"The employer could verify social security numbers every time they got an Hispanic applicant, but then they'd be sued for discrimination under Title VII."

You sure about that? Ever heard of the Basic Pilot program?


23 posted on 12/01/2006 7:15:38 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: TheSuaveOne
You people make me laugh. He hired a company to work on his yard. Was he expected to walk around and demand proof of status of everyone one of those workers?

************

You're right. It's called "eating our own".

24 posted on 12/01/2006 7:16:20 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Gabz; lady lawyer

After May 1st of this year I went to the trouble to find out that most of the employees at my favorite Mexican restaurant were largely illegals from Jalisco. ICE refused to do anything.
I miss the #23 lunch special, but haven't been back since.


25 posted on 12/01/2006 7:16:37 AM PST by tumblindice (`Situational ethics' means never having to define the meaning of the word "is".)
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To: lady lawyer
check the immigration status of the workers next time you go to a restaurant.

That's the first thing I did when I bought a restaurant a few years ago.
The dish washer showed me his Mexican ID. I told him not to come back.
I've felt bad ever since for not going the additional step of turning his criminal invader butt into the INS.

26 posted on 12/01/2006 7:18:36 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: lady lawyer

Can't win for losing........


27 posted on 12/01/2006 7:18:38 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: lady lawyer
When you employ someone and their social security numbers don't match, the social security administration will send the employer a letter saying so!

It is up to the employer to then fire the person who obviously has fake documents! Lots of employers just ignore those letters because they know they can get by with that.

The SS department doesn't really care either, they collect lots of money on phony numbers.
28 posted on 12/01/2006 7:19:22 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: areafiftyone

This is a hit piece by our liberal friends on Fox 25. You just advanced their cause. Congratulations.


29 posted on 12/01/2006 7:19:24 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: lady lawyer
Bernie was in trouble over fooling around with some woman in a love nest that he didn't pay for.

Yeah. Law and Order had a "ripped from the headlines" episode about it.

30 posted on 12/01/2006 7:20:09 AM PST by GOP_Proud (How covert was Valerie Plame at the CIA? Her top-secret code name was "Valerie Plame." ...Coulter)
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To: lady lawyer
"If I recall correctly, wasn't Bernie K. basically FORCED to give up his appointment to Homeland Security, because of this issue?"


"Bernie was in trouble over fooling around with some woman in a love nest that he didn't pay for."


Not what I asked. Anyone?
31 posted on 12/01/2006 7:20:27 AM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 'ILLEGAL ALIEN' .....is NOT a RACE)
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To: Kimberly GG
And if you've got proof they are illegals, *()&^%$$@, post it!

Tom Tancredo basically admitted himself it was illegals who built Tancredo's home theater basement, but he blamed it on the contractor.

DENVER — A congressman who has been demanding tighter immigration controls is defending himself against allegations that illegal immigrants remodeled his basement. Two employees of a contracting company say they and other illegal immigrants from Latin America helped install a home entertainment center and a bedroom in the Littleton home of Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., The Denver Post reported Thursday. Last month, after the Post wrote about a young illegal immigrant's struggle to pay for college, Tancredo reported the teen and his family to the Immigration and Naturalization Service. On Thursday, Tancredo said that when the remodeling was done last fall, he never asked about the workers' immigration status. Even if the workers were in the country illegally, "what is my responsibility at this point in time?" Tancredo said in a telephone interview from Washington. "I go to dinner at restaurants and probably have come into contact with people who are here illegally. I do not ask, of course. It is actually illegal and you can be sued."

Kimberly when is Tom tancredo going to call the press and with a sledgehammer destroy his basement home theater, because it was built with "impure" labor.

32 posted on 12/01/2006 7:20:39 AM PST by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: trisham
Mitt is a liberal RINO http://massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/
33 posted on 12/01/2006 7:21:14 AM PST by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: lady lawyer

I can forgive him for this. Although I still don't think he's the best the GOP can do for '08.


34 posted on 12/01/2006 7:22:19 AM PST by RockinRight (There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.)
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To: tumblindice; lady lawyer

My favorite Mexican place didn't hire illegals and the owner was very proud of that fact. Unfortunately, he and his wife were also running a brothel, that catered to the illegals in the area.

Needless to say, I no longer patronize the place..........


35 posted on 12/01/2006 7:22:23 AM PST by Gabz (If we weren't crazy, we'd just all go insane.)
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To: TheSuaveOne
LOL, yes, which is why Conservatives/Republicans voters are such losers, the MSM are masters of their fate.

The liberal media plays them like a fiddle, they smear and we run in fear.

Which is why so few Conservatives run for office, their base of supporters are chicken-sh#ts.
36 posted on 12/01/2006 7:23:15 AM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Valpal1

Nice hit piece. It's bullshit, but it did make me laugh...la


37 posted on 12/01/2006 7:24:31 AM PST by TheSuaveOne
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To: Dane
"Outing" Hypocrites

I'm with Sajak. Out them all.

38 posted on 12/01/2006 7:25:24 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: JRochelle
Romney: Do as I say, not as I do!!

Oh what a complete crock.

The story you posted has a Boston Globe reporter interviewing four people that say they are illegal immigrants working for this landscaping company that were never asked for legal papers and that they are paid $9 to $10 an hour under the table.

The Globe is trying to have it every which way to Sunday. There is no mention of legal repercussions for the employer or the workers. Is the Globe going to interview the workers of other companies that work for prominent Mass. Democrat politicians? So the Globe wants to embarass Romney because he's a Republican by highlighting illegal immigrants hired by an otherwise legal contractor, a violation of immigration laws that the Globe otherwise endorses? Please!

This is nothing but a hit job by liberal media hacks and Freepers like yourself that charachterize this as a do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do scenario. It isn't.

As another Freeper put it so well: this is like expecting a restaurant owner to disclose all of their worker's legal status before ordering food.

39 posted on 12/01/2006 7:25:25 AM PST by torchthemummy (Romney 2008 - Let The Religious Bigots Unite)
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To: Gabz

I understand your disgust. They should have checked the ID's of their Johns.


40 posted on 12/01/2006 7:27:06 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: Gabz; Dane

Then you done good.

Scienter is a legal term that refers to knowledge of wrongdoing. This means that an offending party has knowledge of the "wrongness" of an act or event prior to committing it. For example, if a man sells a car with brakes that don't work to his friend, and he doesn't know about the problem, then the man has no scienter. If he sells the car and knew of the problem before he sold, he has scienter.
No `scienter', no wrongdoing.


41 posted on 12/01/2006 7:28:11 AM PST by tumblindice (Don't confuse me with the facts.)
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To: Kimberly GG

Actually, Basic Pilot went into effect since I last looked at the problem. Before that, you could use other means to verify social security, but it cost something, and if you didn't do it for everybody -- just those who "looked" illegal -- you could be sued.

It looks like Basic Pilot is a good idea. Easy and free. It should be mandatory.


42 posted on 12/01/2006 7:29:15 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: Valpal1

Mitt may not be your cup of tea, but to cooperate with the Left to bring him down is not going to advance the Republican agenda. It's shameful.


43 posted on 12/01/2006 7:29:30 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: torchthemummy

Nice try. Won't work.

see my last post.


44 posted on 12/01/2006 7:30:13 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Re Bernie. The illegal alien situation was mentioned, but that was not what caused him to give up the appointment.


45 posted on 12/01/2006 7:30:17 AM PST by lady lawyer
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To: areafiftyone

OH maccaca!


46 posted on 12/01/2006 7:30:30 AM PST by maineman
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To: torchthemummy
Here is a great informative website you should visit!
:) http://romneyisaliberal.com/
47 posted on 12/01/2006 7:32:19 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: lady lawyer; All
He hired a company that hired illegal aliens"

EXACTLY!! Poor Boston Globe must be really worried about Mitt's chances of being president.

48 posted on 12/01/2006 7:32:50 AM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: trisham
This is a hit piece by our liberal friends on Fox 25. You just advanced their cause. Congratulations.

OH PULEEZE every candidate is going to come under some scrutiney for every thing they doo. If they say BOO the wrong way they will come under it. They can't escape it. They can stick up for themselves and I'm sure Romney can. Just remember the Republicans in Massachusetts are not happy with Romney too they are pissed off at him because he did not give them any money for their candidates and they feel he snubbed them. It could be Republicans or Democrats doing this. My posting this does nothing. People who like Romeny will not care one bit. You think no one reads the news but freepers? Millions of people listen to that Fox affiliate in Massachusetts and have seen this on TV! This has been out there. GET A GRIP!

49 posted on 12/01/2006 7:33:33 AM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: torchthemummy

Here is a great informative website you should visit!

http://romneyisaliberal.com/


50 posted on 12/01/2006 7:33:48 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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