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NY cracks down on illegal mystery meats
Yahoo AP ^ | 1 December 2006 one hour 26 minutes ago | ADAM GOLDMAN, AP Business Writer

Posted on 12/01/2006 2:33:53 PM PST by shrinkermd

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To: vetvetdoug
Everything from African swine fever and Foot and Mouth disease can be transmitted from foreign meats that are not from approved and reputable sources. Armadillos carry Leprosy, rats...lassa fever and a myriad of togaviruses, reptiles...parasites that will kill humans if eaten even slightly uncooked.

I'm with you. Unfortunately, some think any law at all is an intrusion of rights and freedoms.

51 posted on 12/01/2006 3:11:48 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: Snoopers-868th

I first heard it in 1962.


52 posted on 12/01/2006 3:11:56 PM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: dakine

Sounds like food from your kitchen.


53 posted on 12/01/2006 3:12:22 PM PST by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: shrinkermd

Seems like one more tool to use in controlling vermin. Every large port city has a rat problem. If there are people around who like to eat rat then let them go to it. Ditto with armadilloes (I understand they can be pests what with all their burrowing). Or raccoons. Stray dogs. Feral cats. Cockroaches (people eat roast grasshoppers - whay not roaches?). This would also allow pest control companies a new revenue source. Instead of poisoning the critters they round them up live and sell them to specialty food stores.


54 posted on 12/01/2006 3:14:42 PM PST by scory
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To: Solamente

I had totally forgotten that song. Got to teach the kids!


55 posted on 12/01/2006 3:15:19 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: Kirkwood

I had horse in Switzerland. I was tough(er), but not that bad.


56 posted on 12/01/2006 3:15:34 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: shrinkermd

On the one hand, in an ideal world, I wouldn't think we'd need the government regulating what kinds of meat you can buy, and who has to prepare them. There have been a few ridiculous stories lately, along the lines of soup kitchens not being allowed to accept donated food unless it had been prepared by a "regulated" facility - thus preventing a church, for example, from cooking up a Thanksgiving dinner and serving it at a homeless shelter.

But the potential for serious disease is real, and it's a good bet that many of these poor immigrants don't have health insurance. So if they do get some strange disease from uncooked whatzit meat, they'll be in the ICU, getting treated on the taxpayer's dollar. Given that situation, and the risk of contaminating safe food supplies that most people prefer, some kind of regulation may make sense here.


57 posted on 12/01/2006 3:17:32 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: digger48
That pic reminds me of my buddy who was a Pest Control guy....one day he went into a rental house, and sat at the kitchen table to do his paperwork.

Pavlov kicked in, because 3 rats came out from nowhere and kind of sat up and begged....the tenants kept 'em fed.

58 posted on 12/01/2006 3:19:34 PM PST by ErnBatavia (recent nightmare: Googled up "Helen Thomas nude"....)
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To: shrinkermd

Are armadillos or iguanas endangered? Otherwise, why can't they sell them as food?


59 posted on 12/01/2006 3:21:25 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: shrinkermd

Gee, we can track down "illegal" meat just not "illegal" aliens. What a mess.


60 posted on 12/01/2006 3:21:37 PM PST by zerosix
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To: StAnDeliver

In New York City? One.


61 posted on 12/01/2006 3:23:09 PM PST by waverna
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To: 3AngelaD
American cuisine has been growing since the nation was founded. How would eating iguana turn the United States into a developing country (at least you didn't use turd world; that's something)? There are already Americans who eat alligator.
62 posted on 12/01/2006 3:23:56 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: 1rudeboy
I had horse in Switzerland. I was tough(er), but not that bad. Try it chilled and raw with Basashi sauce. Good eats.
63 posted on 12/01/2006 3:24:46 PM PST by RedQuill
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To: CholeraJoe
For those not familiar with them, Nutria are large aquatic rat-like creatures.

At one point, Louisiana cops were encouraged to use nutria for target practice. They were raised on fur ranches until a hurricane blew the pens open, and they've thrived unchecked in the bayoux and started invading the cities. As if they weren't creepy enough otherwise, they have bright orange teeth. Orange. I am not making this up.

In another bid to reduce the supply by increasing the demand, New Orleans chefs were encouraged to create nutria dishes a few years ago. I think both Paul Prudhomme and Emeril Legasse made contributions to the effort. Apparently, it only caught on among -- big surprise -- the French.

In a sort of related note, the Catholic Church in some parts of South American has officially declared the Capybara, the world's largest rodent, to be a fish. They live along and in rivers and look like miniature hippos more than anything. Declaring them a fish was important because it allows devout Catholics to enjoy Capybara meat, a favorite local delicacy, during Lent.

64 posted on 12/01/2006 3:25:59 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: shrinkermd
....and 200 pounds of cow lungs for sale at another market.

Fried Cow Lungs, big in Malaysia and coming to a restaurant near you:


65 posted on 12/01/2006 3:26:27 PM PST by capydick (Better to Fight for Something Than to Live for Nothing)
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To: conservative cat

There's another from the "day."

Along with GOOD HUMOR, and MISTER SOFTEE, there used to be other ice cream trucks pushing sugar on us kids. The Bungalo Bar truck was the exact same truck as the Good Humor truck - even the logo design was exact. Anyway we sung:

Bungalo Bar
tastes like tar
Put it in the oven
Tastes like Jack Paar

Whoever put us up to it won that battle.


66 posted on 12/01/2006 3:26:46 PM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: rabscuttle385
Nasher bought the chickens from a poultry market in Brooklyn, and said he didn't know he was violating state law. "In Bangladesh, you didn't have all these rules," he said.

When I was a little kid, I'd go with my Grandmother to the poultry market on Joseph Ave., here in Rochester, NY. They had live chickens and she would pick out the one she wanted and the butcher would chase it down, ring its neck, gut it and pluck and burn off the feathers, right there in front of us without hiding it! Of course, this was a Lithuanian/Polish/German neighborhood back in those days (late 50's, early 60's).

67 posted on 12/01/2006 3:27:35 PM PST by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: TOneocon

Depending on what the rodents fed on, how is smoked rodent inherently more disgusting than smoked pig? Haggis and sweetbreads seem far more gross, personally, than rodent meat.


68 posted on 12/01/2006 3:28:17 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: conservative cat

Whew! I'm not hallucinating!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungalow_Bar


69 posted on 12/01/2006 3:28:41 PM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: StAnDeliver
Cazart! How many thousand rats does it take to make a "couple pounds" of smoked rodent meat?

That depends on the rodent....

70 posted on 12/01/2006 3:29:44 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: MeanWestTexan

There is a reason Robert Lee, Texas is known as Home of The Rabbit Twisters. Dates back to before the Depression.


71 posted on 12/01/2006 3:29:47 PM PST by Deguello
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To: scory
Cockroaches (people eat roast grasshoppers - why not roaches?).

Grasshoppers are Kosher, cockroaches aren't.

72 posted on 12/01/2006 3:33:15 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: Snoopers-868th

What exactly is bad about having more food options at your grocery store? The FDA should inspect the food, but the issue shouldn't be whether there are ethnic food sections in food stores.


73 posted on 12/01/2006 3:33:44 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Are armadillos or iguanas endangered? Otherwise, why can't they sell them as food?

I think the issue isn't the species themselves as much as the fact that they're not slaughtered and butchered at licensed and inspected facilities. Depending on the source, it might be a tricky proposition to do so -- in towns where hunting is popular, butchers have to maintain separate tables and sets of tools for livestock and game.

74 posted on 12/01/2006 3:34:43 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: null and void

Grasshoppers are kosher? Not only locusts?


75 posted on 12/01/2006 3:37:06 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: ReignOfError

Yep, after reading more of the comments, agree that the issue with most of the freepers is that the meat wasn't inspected. But not all of them.


76 posted on 12/01/2006 3:38:41 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Yep.

Leviticus 11:21-23
King James Version


21Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;

22Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.


77 posted on 12/01/2006 3:40:14 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: shrinkermd

My dad lived in the country with his grandparents for a year when he was a kid during the depression and he hunted squirrels for food. Even today, in much of the south, squirrel is considered good eating.


78 posted on 12/01/2006 3:41:16 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: MeanWestTexan

Tastes like Long Pork.

Enlighten me please.


79 posted on 12/01/2006 3:46:28 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
There are already Americans who eat alligator.

Tastes Great and Less Filling too.

Alligator ... the other other other other white meat !

80 posted on 12/01/2006 3:50:56 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Chickensoup
Tastes like Long Pork.
Enlighten me please.

Long Pork is a colloquialism for Human Meat.

Tastes like Long Pork = Tastes like Human Meat

81 posted on 12/01/2006 3:54:43 PM PST by Centurion2000 (If the Romans had nukes, Carthage would still be glowing.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
A lot of aesthetic baggage goes into the cultural determination of which animals are acceptable to eat. In America, it usually gravitates toward ugly animals. Chickens are okay, swans not; hogs but not dogs. The biggest exception is venison; deer are beautiful animals, and tasty ones too.

There is a widespread feeling that the Chinese are barbarians or worse because they raise dogs for slaughter. That's pure cultural bias. I don't have the least bit of personal interest in eating dog, but I can't find a moral principle by which it's A-OK to slaughter swine but not canines.

I'm also not interested in eating rat or iguana, but that's a matter of personal taste, not morality or public safety. Anyone who does prepare those meats should be held to the same rules for sanitary and humane slaughter as any other species. No more and no less.

82 posted on 12/01/2006 3:54:58 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Chickensoup
"Long Pork" was what cannabalistic islanders somewhere called human meat because people supposedly taste like pork.

Sorry for the lack of detail, but I heard this back when I was a kid.

83 posted on 12/01/2006 3:55:38 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: OSHA

I'm assuming you like tacos.

Smirk.


84 posted on 12/01/2006 3:56:57 PM PST by Hilltop
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

What red-blooded American doesn't like a little tail from time to time?


85 posted on 12/01/2006 3:58:46 PM PST by Hilltop
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To: DallasMike
My dad lived in the country with his grandparents for a year when he was a kid during the depression and he hunted squirrels for food. Even today, in much of the south, squirrel is considered good eating.

There was an outbreak of Creutzfeld-Jakob disease (the human equivalent of Mad Cow) a few years back. As the patterns became clear, it emerged that, the squirrel-eaters in the hills fell into two camps -- the ones who ate the brains and the ones who didn't. The former suffered the brunt of the CJD.

When I moved out of the house after college, one of my first purchases was a copy of The Joy of Cooking. This was before the recent revision. It was designed to be, and was very good as, a basic one-volume resource on cooking; and it included instructions on how to dress squirrel and rabbit, among other critters.

86 posted on 12/01/2006 4:02:18 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: shrinkermd

.....smoked rodent meat.....

Squirrel?


87 posted on 12/01/2006 4:02:37 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: shrinkermd

Soylent green is armadillos!


88 posted on 12/01/2006 4:02:50 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: DallasMike

Spent a lot of my youth on my Grandfather's farm (50’s) and learned how to shoot hunting squirrels and rabbits and if we were successful … the results of our hunting would be served for dinner.


89 posted on 12/01/2006 4:04:26 PM PST by doc1019
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To: 3AngelaD

That's exactly what I was thinking when I read this article. Part of the collateral damage done to American society by illegal immigration.


90 posted on 12/01/2006 4:06:16 PM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: doc1019

Of course this was before killing and eating “cute” animals was considered wrong.


91 posted on 12/01/2006 4:07:14 PM PST by doc1019
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To: shrinkermd
Sounds reasonable to me. Of course, some people like rat meat. Some may even consider iguana to be a delicacy. The Russian Mafyia is famous for grinding up whistle blowers and making them into sausages.
92 posted on 12/01/2006 4:08:13 PM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7: 1 - 6)
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To: SIDENET
"Long Pork" was what cannabalistic islanders somewhere called human meat because people supposedly taste like pork.

In the South Pacific, by my recollection. I've heard "Polynesian long pig" as another euphemism. They might not have come up with the old favorite "tastes like chicken," because they have a long history of eating pork, but poultry not so much.

Of course, how widespread cannibalism ever was in the South Pacific is an open question; it's a common accusation made against rival tribes, and "natives," who aren't as dumb and "primitive" as we assume, love to play "mess with the anthropologist's head." Margaret Mead's early work has been called somewhat into question because of suspicions that the Samoans were pulling her leg.

93 posted on 12/01/2006 4:09:16 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: shrinkermd
Grrrr.... They shutdown the "Eat Hufu" Web site... "Hufu, the healthy alternative to human flesh!"

Mark

94 posted on 12/01/2006 4:09:23 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Centurion2000
Alligator ... the other other other other white meat !

I don't have any problem with the flavor of 'gator, but the times I've tried it it's been awfully tough and stringy. I've had stringy chicken, too, so I suspect that has a lot to do with how they're raised, which cuts are used and how they're prepared.

95 posted on 12/01/2006 4:12:44 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: MarkL; shrinkermd; conservative blonde; onyx

... sheeEESH!! We're almost to 100 posts and no mention of pigeons [??]

. . . a few years ago , here in NYC, they nabbed an older fella , he caught flocks with an explosive charged net contraption IIRC , sold 'em to , ah er , well ....


96 posted on 12/01/2006 4:14:44 PM PST by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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To: tubebender

97 posted on 12/01/2006 4:16:15 PM PST by glock rocks (tagline, we don't need no steenkin tagline)
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To: tubebender

This is obviously profiling, but what can you expect from an inspector that hauls off a couple of pounds of smoked rat?


98 posted on 12/01/2006 4:23:19 PM PST by SouthTexas (Nature's answer to global warming---snow.)
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To: doc1019
Of course this was before killing and eating “cute” animals was considered wrong.

You don't eat the cute animals, you make them into fur coats ;^)
99 posted on 12/01/2006 4:23:34 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
What exactly is bad about having more food options at your grocery store? The FDA should inspect the food, but the issue shouldn't be whether there are ethnic food sections in food stores.

Some folks get really offended by any marketing effort that isn't aimed at them. Like Kosher or Halal options at groceries or restaurants. There was a thread right here on FR a few days ago that brought howls of derisionat McDonald's for offering Halal burgers on the menu.

In the car today, I listened to Dennis Prager rant at length about the fact that a local TV station in Greenville, SC ran a 30-second Spanish-language ad for some EZ-Credit place during English-language programming. I couldn't for the life of me figure out why it was such an atrocity that someone saw a market and was trying to rip off people that weren't him.

100 posted on 12/01/2006 4:23:40 PM PST by ReignOfError
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