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Poison plotters claim their second victim
Times On Line ^ | dec. 2, 2006 | Richard Beeston and Daniel McGrory

Posted on 12/01/2006 6:05:26 PM PST by blogblogginaway

Police fear that the murder of a former Kremlin spy may have been part of a double killing plot after a second man was taken to hospital last night with radiation poisoning.

The Anti-Terror Group is examining whether the killers of Alexander Litvinenko also tried to poison Mario Scaramella, an Italian security expert who met the Russian exile on the day that he fell ill.

Toxicologists confirmed yesterday that Mr Scaramella had also been contaminated by a “significant” amount of deadly polonium-210. The level leads them to suspect that it was more than he could have ingested from simple physical contact with Litvinenko.

Radiological experts also say that the amount is more than he could have inhaled from being close to Litvinenko had he coughed or sneezed. Cobra, the Government’s emergency planning committee, met after learning of Mr Scaramella’s contamination.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200611; 20061101; kremlin; poison; poisonplot; poisonplots; polonium; polonium210; russia; scaramella; spy

1 posted on 12/01/2006 6:05:28 PM PST by blogblogginaway
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To: blogblogginaway

did they eat together? they might have shared sushi, for example.


2 posted on 12/01/2006 6:07:11 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

It appears only Litvinenko at lunch that day. Mr Scaramella had only a bottle of water.


3 posted on 12/01/2006 6:11:06 PM PST by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: WoofDog123; blogblogginaway
> did they eat together? they might have shared sushi, for example.

Is that like swapping spit? I don't want to know...

Can you say "sharing sushi" three times real quick?

4 posted on 12/01/2006 6:12:57 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: WoofDog123

How about possibly the amount he might have carried to poison Mr.Litvenenko?


5 posted on 12/01/2006 6:16:57 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: dayglored

my thinking was that at many asian restaurants it is not unusual to have food in middle and each person pick what they want, meaning both may eat from the same plate or roll or whatever but each on their own plate. as another poster mentions, since the italian did not eat, this muddles matters.

i don't think i can say it once quick, though. sharing shushi


6 posted on 12/01/2006 6:17:22 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: originalbuckeye

if he did, i wonder if we will ever know.


7 posted on 12/01/2006 6:18:10 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123

The second man said he had only something to drink (coffee, I think), as he'd already eaten when he met with the now-dead man.


8 posted on 12/01/2006 6:19:58 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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To: WoofDog123

Sharing sushi at the seashore sure is not silly, sappy or sane. It's serious. Because sharing sushi at the seashore ensures your shall share sickness and suffer and slouch as you sink slowly into a slumber that stays and slays. Sayonara.


9 posted on 12/01/2006 6:20:29 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: blogblogginaway

Where is Sherlock Holmes when we need him? The Case of the Insidious Isotope.


10 posted on 12/01/2006 6:21:37 PM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: blogblogginaway

It may become fashionable to take a geiger counter to lunch.


11 posted on 12/01/2006 6:23:02 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Sender

Wouldn't this actually be more Mycroft's department?


12 posted on 12/01/2006 6:23:35 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Lizarde

Ruh-roh


14 posted on 12/01/2006 6:25:11 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Lizarde

Shudder


15 posted on 12/01/2006 6:25:46 PM PST by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: WashingtonSource

Bravo!


17 posted on 12/01/2006 6:30:31 PM PST by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: 31R1O

Thanks! I was momentarily inspired. And I wasn't even drinking!


19 posted on 12/01/2006 6:41:14 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WoofDog123
Here is an early account of the Sushi restaraunt meeting. Excerpted from.

Nov 24, 4:48 PM EST
Police Trace Slain Spy's Last Steps
By TARIQ PANJA
Associated Press Writer
LONDON (AP)
..That meeting was the afternoon of Nov. 1 at Itsu Sushi, a frequent rendezvous spot for Litvinenko and his friend Italian academic Mario Scaramella.

Scaramella said he brought along an e-mail purporting to list emigres to Britain being targeted by Russian agents as well as the identities of Politkovskaya's killers. The academic declined to say who sent the e-mail to him.

Litvinenko ate a bowl of soup before he headed for a table where the two could discuss the secret e-mail, Goldfarb said.

...Hours after the sushi bar meeting, Litvinenko was taken to Barnet General Hospital in north London with stomach pains. His condition gradually worsened over the next two weeks.

Strange story. Why was the Italian hospitalized so late after this meeting ? Litvinenko was hospitalized hours after the Sushi meeting. The Italian must have been poisoned days later ? Obviously the 'hit list' takes on an incredible importance. Are the assassins still in England with more of this poison ? Was this a test run for a larger attack ?

20 posted on 12/01/2006 8:06:44 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Admin Moderator

I think this may be worthy of the "breaking news" category...


21 posted on 12/01/2006 8:50:30 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: soccer8
think this may be worthy of the "breaking news" category...

Not since it was first reported 12 hours ago.

22 posted on 12/01/2006 8:55:33 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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My bad, I was just about to 'retract' my post. I misread the article - I was under the impression he died.

How long shall I sit in the corner?

23 posted on 12/01/2006 8:58:07 PM PST by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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24 posted on 12/01/2006 10:41:58 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Wouldn't this actually be more Mycroft's department?

If Sherlock can't finger this radiological rapscallion with help from the 10 percent solution, then I suppose we should let Mycroft have a go. Mycroft won't do anything about it, but his intuition is usually correct.

25 posted on 12/02/2006 7:19:29 AM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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26 posted on 12/04/2006 7:48:01 AM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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FR Thead: ABC News Exclusive: Murder in a Teapot British officials say police have cracked the murder-by-poison case of former spy Alexander Litvinenko, including the discovery of a "hot" teapot at London's Millennium Hotel with an off-the-charts reading for Polonium-210, the radioactive material used in the killing.
27 posted on 01/27/2007 2:38:50 PM PST by anymouse
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