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THE FAKING IMAMS: Police Report, Passenger Reveals That Flying Imams Were Up to No Good
http://pajamasmedia.com/2006/12/the_faking_imams_pajamas_media.php ^

Posted on 12/01/2006 9:34:49 PM PST by Blue Turtle

The case of U.S. Airways flight 300 gets stranger by the minute. When six traveling Muslim clerics were asked to deplane last week, it looked like another civil rights controversy against post-9-11 airport security.

Now new information is emerging that suggests it was all a stunt designed to weaken security….

Yesterday I spoke with a passenger on that flight, who asked that she be only identified as “Pauline.” A copy of airport police report, which I also obtained, supports Pauline’s account - and includes shocking revelations of its own. In addition, U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader also confirmed much of what Pauline revealed…..

(Excerpt) Read more at pajamasmedia.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: flyingimams; imams; islam; jihadinamericadryrun; muslim; whiningwahabbists; wot
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1 posted on 12/01/2006 9:34:54 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Blue Turtle

Link is dead.


2 posted on 12/01/2006 9:38:02 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Blue Turtle

Cannot get the link to work.


3 posted on 12/01/2006 9:39:01 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rockinqsranch

It took some time for me to get in as well...go to drudge if necessary and the link is on the right column.


4 posted on 12/01/2006 9:39:44 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Blue Turtle

Don't see the link at Drudge, either.


5 posted on 12/01/2006 9:41:39 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: Silly

sorry....left hand side under picture of praying muslims.


6 posted on 12/01/2006 9:42:28 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: Blue Turtle
I got it to work. Maybe their sever cant handle all the traffic a drudge link brings to it.
7 posted on 12/01/2006 9:46:04 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Blue Turtle
If the reports that these men checked no baggage and had one-way flight tickets are true, then this and the fact that they are admitted Muslims is exactly what should be scrutinized.
8 posted on 12/01/2006 9:46:13 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: perfect stranger
Not to mention that one of them had admitted contacts with Osama bin Laden.

Why didn't that "no-fly-list" have this guy's name on it?

9 posted on 12/01/2006 9:48:16 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: All

Before the imams boarded, they were ``praying loudly in the gate area. Some were heard to be making statements against the U.S. involvement in Iraq,'' Pat Hogan, spokesman for the airport, said in an interview today.
Some of the six repeatedly said ``Allah'' as they boarded, then asked to change seats and requested safety-belt extensions that they put under their seats, Hogan said. One was overheard to say he would ``go to whatever measures necessary to obey all that is set out in the Koran,'' Hogan said.


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=afMz0RSfxJ6Q

It was obvious that it was a set up.


10 posted on 12/01/2006 9:48:38 PM PST by Sun (*MERRY CHRISTMAS!* And during this beautiful season, let's all pray for good to win over evil soon!)
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To: Sun
"It was obvious that it was a set up."

Sure seems likely.
11 posted on 12/01/2006 9:49:16 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Blue Turtle; All

The storm caused power outages and slowdowns. My son is working on getting his company back up now ( not related to this). Be patient.


12 posted on 12/01/2006 9:50:41 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Blue Turtle

Can't we just send them all back to Turdistan?

Damn, this is getting weary...

It ain't like they're here to join the local Elks club or something.


13 posted on 12/01/2006 9:51:29 PM PST by djf (They have their place. We have our place. They want to turn our place into their place. WAKE UP!!!!!)
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To: Sun
"It was obvious that it was a set up."

Of course it was.

14 posted on 12/01/2006 9:54:03 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Blue Turtle
I turns out the prayed twice, which is not part of their religious routine among other discrepancies in their behavior.

They are becoming emboldened though and they are going to keep stretching the envelope and testing the systems.
15 posted on 12/01/2006 9:56:53 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: Blue Turtle

I don't understand why these folks aren't being treated as we'd treat hooligans who shouted 'fire' in a crowded movie theater. What they did was dangerous, and most likely done with malicious intent. At a minimum they should face a jail term - and given that we are a nation at war, deportation is also in order.


16 posted on 12/01/2006 9:56:59 PM PST by El Cid
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To: Blue Turtle

Drudge must have crashed the Pajamasmedia website.

It finally loaded.



The passengers of this and future incidents should file class action lawsuits against the perpetrators.


17 posted on 12/01/2006 9:58:39 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: El Cid

Watch for the Aclu to show up and defend them.....


18 posted on 12/01/2006 10:01:33 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: El Cid
I don't understand why these folks aren't being treated as we'd treat hooligans who shouted 'fire' in a crowded movie theater.

Exactly right...isn't it unlawful to "joke around" about hijacking in an airport?

19 posted on 12/01/2006 10:01:57 PM PST by demsux
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The imans had three objectives:
1) Further inflame Muslims against the USA by portraying America as a country that harasses and bullies them;
2) Test our aviation security arrangements;
3) Use the shopworn "profiling" dodge to intimidate law enforcement and airline personnel from taking reasonable and prudent measures to protect the flying public.
With the help of the MSM,the Imans achieved objective #1. Under a Democratic administration, security and scrutiny will almost certainly be downgraded, achieving objective #3. Pelosi has already said that the imans' removal from the plane may be a case of "profiling." God help us if these people ever again hold the Congress and the Executive branch.
20 posted on 12/01/2006 10:06:51 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Blue Turtle
The writer of the PM story is Richard Miniter who has written several books on terrorism, especially one on the Clinton administration's losing Bin Laden.

The final several paragraphs are chilling:

“I think it was either a foiled attempt to take over the plane or it was a publicity stunt to accuse us of being insensitive,” Pauline said. “It had to be to intimidate U.S. Airways to ease up on security.”

So far, U.S. Airways refuses to be intimidated, even though the feds have launched an investigation. “We are absolutely backing this crew,” Rader said.

Tucked away in the police report is this little gem: one of the imams had complained to a passenger that some nations did not follow shariah law and his job in Bakersfield, Calif. was a cover for “representing Muslims here in the U.S.”

So what are the imams really up to? Something more than praying it seems.

21 posted on 12/01/2006 10:07:10 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: Blue Turtle; All

It took me awhile to get to the pdf file for the police report, saw this up on Michelle Malkin's site over an hour or so ago, between that and other folks linking into it, folks will have to be patient trying to connect to PJM and the reports it links to.

The reports confirms much if not all that has been reported the last few days about the behaviour of the imams and what was reported to the crew and authorities about them that day.


22 posted on 12/01/2006 10:07:27 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Kyl / Cornyn in '08 .... Now is as good as any time for a GOPurge.)
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To: El Cid

I feel they are riding the wave of American Political Correctness to either test the waters, so to speak, or set the Airlines up to get security measures greatly reduced or eleminated.

This report is circulating in email tonight and is lengthy. "Pauline" deserves credit as does the crew of the US Airways flight that took these measures.

Any judge that takes the case and rules against US Airways deserves to be ridden out of town on a rail, after they are tarred and feathered. Maybe it's time some old fashioned Southern Justice (minus lynchings and killing, of course) came into play.

The strongest arm of the government is "We the People." It's time Politicians learned this fact, again.


23 posted on 12/01/2006 10:11:11 PM PST by DakotaRed (Kerry Should Resign!)
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To: Silly
Top link is up.

Gee wally do ya think islame is evil now?

Faking is too polite a term for these followers of satan. Incarcerated should be the least of the names they should be given. If they keep it up, allah em will be!

24 posted on 12/01/2006 10:11:38 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: Blue Turtle
A seat-belt extension can easily be used as a weapon, by wrapping the open-end of the belt around your fist and swinging the heavy metal buckle.

There was a report on TV that a seat belt extension could be used to connect the belts from two seat across the aisle from each other, thereby impeding anyone attempting to come down the aisle. I believe that some of the Imams were seated in aisle seat across from each other.

25 posted on 12/01/2006 10:14:01 PM PST by F-117A (Hey, Borat! Come talk to these "people"!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

THe A-hole Alan Colmes just defended them on H and C, with Steve Emerson as a guest.


27 posted on 12/01/2006 10:28:22 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: ModelBreaker

bump for later


28 posted on 12/01/2006 10:28:46 PM PST by joyce11111
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To: rawcatslyentist

Link is still dead. Would someone please FReepmail me the text?


29 posted on 12/01/2006 10:29:45 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: supremedoctrine
THe A-hole Alan Colmes just defended them on H and C, with Steve Emerson as a guest.

That's what is wrong with this country, too many like Colmes who are leaning so far left that they are going to get us all killed!

I'm sooooo sick of this P.C. crap, there was none of this when I was growing up & we had a lot less problems!!!!

30 posted on 12/01/2006 10:30:15 PM PST by blondee123
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To: Sun
It was obvious that it was a set up.

Muslims can skip or delay a prayer session and make it up later. Other Muslims have said hey should have prayed at the mosque before leaving for the airport. This was a setup all the way but they may have overplayed their hand.

31 posted on 12/01/2006 10:30:22 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: Silly

The case of U.S. Airways flight 300 gets stranger by the minute. When six traveling Muslim clerics were asked to deplane last week, it looked like another civil rights controversy against post-9-11 airport security.

Now new information is emerging that suggests it was all a stunt designed to weaken security….

Yesterday I spoke with a passenger on that flight, who asked that she be only identified as “Pauline.” A copy of airport police report, which I also obtained, supports Pauline’s account - and includes shocking revelations of its own. In addition, U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader also confirmed much of what Pauline revealed…..

The passenger, who asked that she only be identified as “Pauline,” said she is afraid to give her full name or hometown. She is spending the night at “another location” because she does not feel safe at home. She credits reports that one imam is apparently linked to Hamas. “It is scary because these men could be dangerous.”

Pauline said she never wanted media attention. She wrote an email to U.S. Airways and cc:ed her daughter, who unexpectedly emailed it to her friends. As the letter took on an internet life of its own, it made its way to the inbox of a retired CNN executive producer. Then, to her dismay, the feeding frenzy began.

Pauline revealed to the Pajamas Media that the six imams were doing things far more suspicious than praying - an Arabic-speaking passenger heard them repeatedly invoke “bin Laden,” and “terrorism,” a gate attendant told the captain that she did not want to fly with them, and that bomb-sniffing dogs were brought aboard. Other Muslim passengers were left undisturbed and later joined in a round of applause for the U.S. Airways crew. “It wasn’t that they were Muslim. It was all of the suspicious things they did,” Pauline said.

Here is her story, along with corroborating quotes from the U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader and the official report, another Pajamas Media Exclusive.

Sitting in Minneapolis-St. Paul’s Airport Gate C9, she noticed one of the imams immediately. “He was pacing nervously, talking in Arabic,” she said.

She quickly noticed the others. “They didn’t look like holy men to me. They looked like guys heading out of town for a Vikings game.”

Pauline said she did not see or hear the imams pray at the gate (she was at dinner in a nearby airport eatery), but heard about the pre-flight prayers from other passengers hours later.

As the plane boarded, she said, no one refused to fly. The public prayers and Arabic phone call did not trigger any alarms - so much for the p.c. allegations that people were disturbed by Muslim prayers.

But a note from a passenger about suspicious movements of the imams got the crew’s attention. A copy of the passenger’s note appears in the police report.

To Pauline everything seemed normal. Then the captain - in classic laconic pilot-style - announced there had been a “mix up in our paperwork” and that the flight would be delayed.

In reality, the air crew was waiting for the FBI and local police to arrive.

Ninety minutes after the flight’s scheduled 5:15 p.m. departure, the captain announced yet another delay. Still, Pauline said, there was no sense of alarm.

Still, it seemed like just another annoying development, typical when flying the friendly skies.

The situation in cockpit was far more intense, according to a U.S. Airways spokeswoman and police reports.

Contrary to press accounts that a single note from a passenger triggered the imams’ removal, Captain John Howard Wood was weighing multiple factors - factors that have largely been ignored by the press.

Another passenger, not the note writer, was an Arabic speaker sitting near two of the imams in the plane’s tail. That passenger pulled a flight attendant aside, and in a whisper, translated what the men were saying. They were invoking “bin Laden” and condemning America for “killing Saddam,” according to police reports.

Meanwhile an imam seated in first class asked for a seat-belt extension, even though according to both an on-duty flight attendant and another deadheading flight attendant, he looked too thin to need one. Hours later, when the passengers were being evacuated, the seat-belt extension was found on the floor near the imam’s seat, police reports confirm. The U.S. Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader said she did not dispute the report, but said the airline’s internal investigation cannot yet account for the seat-belt extension request or its subsequent use.

A seat-belt extension can easily be used as a weapon, by wrapping the open-end of the belt around your fist and swinging the heavy metal buckle.

Still, it seemed like just another annoying development, typical when flying the friendly skies. Days after the incident, the imam would claim that the steward helped him attach the device. Pauline said he is lying. Hours later, when the police was being evacuated, the steward asked Pauline to hand him the seat-belt extension, which the imam did not attach, but placed on the floor. “I know he is lying,” Pauline said, “I had it [seat belt extension] in my hand.”

A passenger in the third row of first class, Pauline said, told a member of the crew: “I don’t have a good feeling about this guy,” about the imam who wanted the seat-belt extension.

A married couple one row behind first-class, tried to strike up a conversation with the imam seated near them. He refused to talk or even look at the woman in the eye, according to Pauline. Instead, he stood up and moved to join the other imams in the back of the plane. Why would he leave the luxury end of the aircraft? Pauline wondered. The account of the married couple does not appear in the police report.

Finally, a gate attendant told the captain she thought the imams were acting suspiciously, according to police reports.

So the captain apparently made his decision to delay the flight based on many complaints, not one. And he consulted a federal air marshal, a U.S. Airways ground security coordinator and the airline’s security office in Phoenix. All thought the imams were acting suspiciously, Rader told me.

Other factors were also considered: All six imams had boarded together, with the first-class passengers - even though only one of them had a first-class ticket. Three had one-way tickets. Between the six men, only one had checked a bag.

And, Pauline said, they spread out just like the 9-11 hijackers. Two sat in first, two in the middle, and two back in the economy section. Pauline’s account is confirmed by the police report. The airline spokeswoman added that some seemed to be sitting in seats not assigned to them.

One thing that no one seemed to consider at the time, perhaps due to lack of familiarity with Islamic practice, is that the men prayed both at the gate and on the plane. Observant Muslims pray only once at sundown, not twice.

“It was almost as if they were intentionally trying to get kicked off the flight,” Pauline said.

A lone plain clothes FBI agent boarded the plane and briefly spoke to the imams. Later, uniformed police escorted them off.

Some press reports said the men were led off in handcuffs, which Pauline disputes. “I saw them. They were not handcuffed.”

Later, each imam was individually brought back on the aircraft to reclaim his belongings. They were still not handcuffed. They may have been handcuffed later.

At this point, the passengers became alarmed. “How do we know they got all their stuff off?” Pauline heard one man ask.

While the imams were soon released, Pauline is fuming: “We are the victims of these people. They need to be more sensitive to us. They were totally insensitive to us and then accused us of being insensitive to them. I mean, we were a lot more inconvenienced than them.”

The plane was delayed for some three and one-half hours.

Bomb-sniffing dogs were used to sweep the plane and every passenger was re-screened, the airline spokeswoman confirmed. Another detail omitted from press reports.

The reaction of the remaining passengers has also gone unreported. “We applauded and cheered for the crew,” she said.

“I think it was either a foiled attempt to take over the plane or it was a publicity stunt to accuse us of being insensitive,” Pauline said. “It had to be to intimidate U.S. Airways to ease up on security.”

So far, U.S. Airways refuses to be intimidated, even though the feds have launched an investigation. “We are absolutely backing this crew,” Rader said.

Tucked away in the police report is this little gem: one of the imams had complained to a passenger that some nations did not follow shariah law and his job in Bakersfield, Calif. was a cover for “representing Muslims here in the U.S.”

So what are the imams really up to? Something more than praying it seems.


32 posted on 12/01/2006 10:32:00 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: El Cid

Deportation is indeed the answer, and the ONLY answer.
THere will come a tipping point where we just can't take any more of this cheap provocation, which can be assessed for what it is by just about anyone who hasn't already blinded himself. There will be a MOVEMENT to deport, here and all over Europe---I don't know why is seems so much the most logical and humane solution to me, but seems like such a bitter pill to swallow for everyone else.


33 posted on 12/01/2006 10:32:29 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: peggybac

Thanks. This report is a bit fishy. Too much "seems" and not enough "is".

Not saying I discount it. But if I were a reporter I'd have a lot of questions for Pauline.


34 posted on 12/01/2006 10:35:52 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: perfect stranger

He s/b on the WHY IS HE IN AMERICA list


35 posted on 12/01/2006 10:36:46 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: F-117A

My first thought about the request for a seatbelt extension was that it was some halfassed kind of way of them suggesting and trying to instill fear over the possibility that they had "something" under their clothes strapped across their chests, like suicide gear.


36 posted on 12/01/2006 10:37:25 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: peggybac

Bookmarking bump.


37 posted on 12/01/2006 10:42:29 PM PST by Springman
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To: o-n-money

s/b ?


38 posted on 12/01/2006 10:55:13 PM PST by perfect stranger (Tagline tomorrow, tagline yesterday, but no tagline today.)
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To: perfect stranger
s/b ?

Should be

39 posted on 12/01/2006 11:01:42 PM PST by F-117A (Hey, Borat! Come talk to these "people"!)
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These six 'imams' are lucky they werent beaten to death by passengers if their planned stunt had gone further. Seat belt extensions arent enough to stop enraged passengers after what happened on 9/11.


A long stay at Gimto should be their well deserved reward.
40 posted on 12/01/2006 11:05:25 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: peggybac
"So what are the imams really up to?"
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"Imams" defined as "men who lead prayers" can be any muslim cultist who feels self-righteous.

Now is the time to deport them all.
41 posted on 12/01/2006 11:07:55 PM PST by the final gentleman
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To: Blue Turtle
As I have said before, expulsion. And prevent others from coming into the USA. Forget the billion dollar war, just keep them the bloody hell out!
42 posted on 12/01/2006 11:13:35 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Godwin1
[ "The imans had three objectives:
1) Further inflame Muslims against the USA by portraying America as a country that harasses and bullies them;
2) Test our aviation security arrangements;
3) Use the shopworn "profiling" dodge to intimidate law enforcement and airline personnel from taking reasonable and prudent measures to protect the flying public." ]
______________________________________________________

Godwin1, your succinct and astute insight needed repeating.
43 posted on 12/01/2006 11:15:17 PM PST by the final gentleman
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To: sageb1

Let me tell you. If I was there I would have created one hell of a scene at that airport. Screw them ! After 9/11 all bets are off . I don't care who don't like it , I would have started a riot .


44 posted on 12/01/2006 11:17:18 PM PST by sonic109
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To: All

I swear I read something ages ago if passengers felt threatend by another passenger that it was in the airline's right to remove this passenger. I think there had to be multiple complaints before it could happen. Am I crazy here?


45 posted on 12/01/2006 11:23:45 PM PST by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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To: blondee123

Alan Colmes is PAID to be an A-hole. At least he has that excuse. There are millions more with no excuse at all.


46 posted on 12/01/2006 11:36:42 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: supremedoctrine

I hate the idea of deportation, but it may be the only solution at some point, or at least it may reach the point where people just will not tolerate Muslims in our country.

There are terrible logistical problems, however. Finding places to dump them, rounding them up, handling their property. And there may be Muslims who simply deny, renounce, or appear to renounce, their faith in order to escape deportation.

At that point, instead of profiling people by religion, it would be necessary to profile by country of origin.

It seems easy to talk about this, but it will likely never happen. If we lost a major city, maybe. Let's hope that doesn't happen.


47 posted on 12/01/2006 11:44:16 PM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: DakotaRed; Salem; M Kehoe; Jim Robinson; El Cid; Silly; rawcatslyentist; Blue Turtle; F-117A; ...
"...Any judge that takes the case and rules against US Airways deserves to be ridden out of town on a rail, after they are tarred and feathered. Maybe it's time some old fashioned Southern Justice came into play.
The strongest arm of the government is "We the People." It's time Politicians learned this fact, again..."

These muzzies just don't think like us. 1300 years of inbreeding'll do that to ya.

Here's the salient points:

1)-During the 8 years of the klintoon, terrorism flourished, and the very real threat of Nuclear Terrorism began in Iraq, Libya, and Iran, financed in the most part by Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iraq, and Iran, abetted by Syria, and bin-laden is in Afghanistan. It's 2000!

2)-9/11 happens, and we, the good guys, got together and kicked-ass in Afghanistan, and captured Intel revealing the extent of the Nuclear plans. It's 2002!

3)-Iraq, i.e., Saddam, is in-between Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Israel, and offers the logistical Operations Base needed to secure the entire Middle East, so we invade Iraq, and dispatch them militarily, quickly. Now we've imported everything we need to secure future operations. It's 2004!

4)-Money, weapons, and personnel flow from Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Syria, into Iraq - they know our plans, and try to stop us. The NYT and others are happy to help them. Libya throws in the towel! Iran starts their enrichment and fissile materials production. North Korea announces their successful Nuclear Bomb. It's December, 2006!

A Plan, is here.

Some Maps, are here, starting at #9.

Some Friends are coming to the party.

Count the mosques in your neighbourhoods, note their locations, then stay well armed and safe. ..................FRegards

48 posted on 12/02/2006 12:12:42 AM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Blue Turtle
A client of mine needs me to photograph the U.S. Airways building in Tempe, AZ for project photos to decorate the walls of their new headquarters. I already have some photos of the building, but the winter sun obscured details of the north facing building. I plan to try to take additional pictures at night, but I'm worried that I might be harassed by security, now that the moosies have drawn attention to the U.S.Airways.

Wish me luck.

49 posted on 12/02/2006 2:18:56 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Silly
A female passenger who was on this flight appeared on Fox News. I don't remember if her name was Pauline. She basically said she heard nothing and saw nothing, I wondered why they had her on Fox.
50 posted on 12/02/2006 2:27:24 AM PST by Ditter
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