Skip to comments.Joe was Right
Posted on 12/02/2006 9:39:12 AM PST by do the dhue
If you read this, you need a lot of time.
OK folks. After this you are going to think I am nuts. My reply will be the same reply that Major General McCauliffe gave the Germans at Bastogne: NUTS!! Right back at you.
I had a teacher in High School. He was a good teacher and I liked him a lot. One day we got into an debate. He told the class that if you had a continuum with Communism on the left and Capitalism on the right and Socialism in the middle, he said that Communism and Capitalism is slowly moving towards each other. I argued that we (America, the good ol' US of A), would never turn Socialist. Not without a fight, I told Schmidt. This was in 1984. Before the fall of the Soviet Empire and before OUR Government was allowed to come into YOUR HOME and tell YOU how to raise your kid.
The list does not stop at spankin' kids (spankin's are necessary, not cruel). The list continues with the attack is on Guns, babies, and God. It comes from Hollywood, hippies (the communal crowd)the Judicial Branch, the Media, College Professors, and one of our Political Parties and the likes of the ACLU and more. Who funds them? What is their agenda? How are they going to attack again? And what can I do to stop them?
For years I asked questions like this. I looked at every conspiracy theory and had all different kinds of dreamy ideas. I am now fully convinced that I understand what is going on in darkness. I used to look in the dark for the answer. The answer is in the light. Christ has it all under control. All things done in darkness will be revealed one day. When Christ unveils these things, I think we are going to learn this:
When I was at a University in Indiana and I was studying hard trying to figure all this out. Why was my country moving towards Socialism? I had a theory going that frankly, pist a lot of people off. My theory was erroneous and I do not wish to get into the error. I met a fellow and he told me to go and talk to this man in Hagerstown, Indiana. I was told that he could explain what is going on. Well, I went there. I drove up to the address and there was a long drive way. Just past a tall Flag pole about fifty yards off the road there sat a big white house with big ol' pillars. The place was impressive for one who spent a lot of time as a trailer rat.
Well, I knocked and a tall, slightly built, slightly over weight man answered the door. Frankly, I had wondered if he had ever bathed. We sat down in his den. Big American eagles all around with a very nice library of books. And pictures of our founding fathers. He showed me books and items that came from the day. He showed me 'Common Sense', which was written by Thomas Paine. Paine spurred on our Revolution with that book. He had a large desk that sat in front of a big picture window. I sat down in front of the desk. When I looked at him I was looking at his gorgeously green back yard thru the window. Well, we talked a bit. He told me that he had a book and he said that he trusted me to return it. He said he wanted it back because it is banned. He said that when I get done with it, I would have a better understanding.
I read the book and gave it back. The book was written by a Chec defector from the Soviet Iron Curtain. The book was written in the early 1960's. The defector said that the Commies would take over our media, Hollywood, University's, Political Party(s), Judicial Branch, and they would set up and already had set up institutions that will chip away at our laws (see the likes of the ACLU). They would slowly buy our politicians and slowly change our laws. If they do it right, the American people won't even know it. The people won't feel it because it won't be an immediate impact. The commies would change our laws without a shot being fired. And that is the title of the book, 'and not a shot was fired'.
Well, I went and looked at this for a long time. I know the short cuts and you can start here, if you choose: http://www.cpusa.org/ this is the American Communist Party.
Wikipedia states the following:
The Communist Party of the United States of America (CPUSA) is a Marxist-Leninist political party in the United States. For approximately the first half of the 20th century, it was the largest and most widely influential communist party in the country, and played a defining role in the U.S. labor movement from the 1920s through the 1940s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Communist_Party
On wiki it is stated the American Socialist Party (there are better places besides wiki for this data too, but go look it up for yourself, so you can decide):
The Socialist Propaganda League of America was established in 1915, apparently by C.W. Fitzgerald of Beverly, Massachusetts.
As a membership organization within the ranks of the Socialist Party of America, the Socialist Propaganda League was the direct lineal antecedent of the Left Wing Section of the Socialist Party and its governing National Council - the forerunner of the American Communist movement.
Now, remember Joe McCarthy and McCarthyism? Well, check this out:
Wiki says: McCarthyism is the term describing a period of intense anti-Communist suspicion in the United States that lasted roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s. The term derives from U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, a Republican of Wisconsin. The period of McCarthyism is also referred to as the Second Red Scare, and coincided with a period of increased fears of Communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents.
They dug up all of Joe's past and threw it in a court room in front of the world and discredited Joe. Nobody did anything about the Commie SOBs. Some got busted like Alger Hiss and a couple of others, but for the most part, it was and still is business as usual.
Now, go check this out:
The following is a project run my the MI6 (British Intel) and our CIA. We gathered every piece of data the Soviet sent from their embassy in NY to Moscow.
The project name: VENONA PROJECT http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona_project
Here are a couple more sites I liked that refer to the VENONA Project: http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2539.html
The above is on Venona and McCarthy. I am not the only one saying this: McCarthy was right.
Hint: When researching VENONA Project, always look for it in capital letters. This was the only way the MI6 and CIA used it. Others who just talk about the Venona project generally do not use caps. So, if someone says they have the Venona project listed on their web site and it is not in CAPS, it is not the authentic VENONA Project.
Now, all things done in darkness will be revealed right? Look around you, liberal atheist are successfully removing God from public view. When did it become a crime to say a prayer in school, or the pledge of allegiance, or when did it become a crime for a kid to sing a Christmas carol? When did it become a crime to put a manger scene up so we can celebrate the true meaning of Christmas? Answer: ever since the Commies in the ACLU have been trying to remove God from public view.
Look in the light and you will see it. It's all around you: Commies assaulting your right to own a gun. Commies assaulting your right to exercise your Religion (peacefully, you Islamofool). Commies assaulting your right to raise your child. Commies taking money from those who earned it so they can give it to those who did not earn it. Commies assualting our unborn babies. Commies in the media like Dan Rather, the entire New York Times, ABC, CBS and let's not forget about the Communist News Network- CNN. Commies in Hollywood producing rude and crude movies. Commies in the Judicial Branch who legislate from the bench. It is revealed. We are moving closer to Socialism every day.
Remember My High School teacher? I promised there would be a fight. I am not going to call in a Air Strike, yet, but I will help those like the ACLJ who are fighting the likes of the ACLU. It is important. More important then you can imagine.
Like I said, when I get done, you are going to think I am nuts. Well, 'NUTS?, you will see'.
If you read all this, thanks for listening. I really don't know (I only have a theroy). I suggest you go look this stuff up for yourself. But I am stickin' to my guns and I am ready to walk into the lions and den and let out a big ol' roar. I don't want to back into this street fight, I am ready to do battle now. We need to wake folks up and shake them up. We need to protect our rights. You see your First and Second Amendment have been under attack. Go look at those web pages, I sent you. There are people out there wanting to change the greatest system ever set up.
We need to expose them. Let's push these issues on the Demorats. Make them vote, so they have to show their true colors. Call them out for what they are. Commie bastards. And if they don't like being called Commies, don't give me a dang reason to do so.
Thanks again, Do the Dhue
Two books that explicate your thesis in far greater detail are The Venona Papers(I think that was the name, and Venona does not have to be in all caps) and Treason by Ann Coulter. Ann described quite clearly how right Joe McCarthy was, and it is a pity that people like Eisenhower participated in the commie takedown of ol' Joe.
I wish more people than you and I could figure this out. I will be dead if communism wins because I will not give up my SRARS and STRIPES, that is flying over my AMERICA. Also I am not saying I would die before this happens because I will not give AMERICA up without a fight. I'm not just saying words, TRY TO TAKE AWAY MY AMERICA FROM ME.
Cool! Where can I get a larger version of "Treason's Greetings" ?
I know it's picky. But an article from The INTELLECTUAL Conservative should not contain the following phrase, "he said that Communism and Capitalism is slowly moving towards each other."
Our Government and our courts are already Socialism. Thank God we are not.
I agree with General Patton and You. I want the enemy to die for his country and I will try to make that happen. If I end up dying for America and turning into the dumb bastard, You better keep on fighting.
Does Hillary re3all agree? Nuts, I mean...Jake
Hey Joe was wrong. He underestimated the number of Communists in government.
I know there was a list at dsa.org that had a large number of Demoncrats as associates of the organization. I believe they took it down, or hid it from view.
COMMUNISM .. "IS" SOCIALISM... This comment makes zero sense..
And shows the author knows nothing about communism or socialism..
Socialism is but a symptom of democracy.. Democracy causes socialism and ultimately communism if allowed to mature..
Socialism is Slavery by Government.. A FACT far above Canadian and European(and American democrat) minds to absorb.. Pity..
Whats NOT mentioned is the Capitalization of Socialism or the Socialization of Capitalism.. like whats happening in China, Europe, and the United States..
In the U.S.A. (SSA) Social Security is pure socialism.. and most Americans would gouge out their eyes before re-thinking it..
Socialism is "Slavery by Government" exactly and implicitly.. With the slaves voting to enslave themselves..
America was not designed to be a democracy, it was designed to be a Republic, exactly for that reason..
Reading Whitaker Chambers "Witness" is also a help
I am certain that today there are very radical elements of the Communist/Socialist movements heavily involved in programs and policies that the Demoncrat Party is pursuing.I am convinced that the recognized Demoncrat Party members who are either in, or closely allied with, the so-called Progressive Caucus (PC) are dancing on the very edge of subversion and treason to the government and Constitution of the US.
I knew I had seen the list displayed prominently on the DSA website some time ago. The fact that so many found out about the connections and the pulling of the open link shows me that the "PC" wishes to remain in the shadows as to what beliefs and agendas they really harbor.
First Joe McCarthy was a FDR Rat He only switched parties to get elected. That being said:
Secrets, Lies, and Atomic Spies,.....Or... Joe McCarthy was more right than he ever knew
"If they come for your gun, just squeeze the trigger."
That is just what I will do though not on myself. Those that come after my weapons will have to do that.
I wish, for clinton's impeachment, we'd had a different take: "Treason's the Reason."
The problem with McCarthy was the "list of names" in his pocket thing. It was a bluff, he didn't have the list. He was like a runaway prosecutor who knew the defendent was guilty, but didn't have the facts to back him up. Do you cheer the prosecutor for knowing the guy was guilty, or do you blame him for his behavior in trying to prove his case without all the foundation. That is what historians will decide.
Socialist? Never. Individualist? Always.
The socialism becomes capitalist / capitalism becomes socialist circle goes way farther back than '84. I heard the same thing in '62.
The basis is/was that neither system can operate in pure form.
Capitalism itself does not address what we know as humanitarian issues - so some form of socialism gets grafted into the mix to accommodate those who cannot compete. Then there are public works, disasters, and wars to be fought and paid for. Eventually the guilds and crafts associations metastasize into unions...
Socialist ideals might work fine for a tribe of about a dozen people, early Christians and the Puritans tried it. Eventually it fails, in part because no one is motivated except those who direct and manage the 'equality'. Orwell did that part. It also fails because of the need to generate assets within the group and from without.
(In the most socialist of societies there will always be capitalists at work selling any excess they can produce - and hide - for whatever extras another capitalist has to sell.)
Eventually - some form of capitalism gets grafted into the mix and suddenly China wants to sell cars in the USA.
Socialism, unlike Capitalism, does pretend to have an answer for both governmental and personal needs, from each according to...etc.
That makes it comforting to many people on the bottom.
And, because they don't truly believe that it will apply to them, it also appeals to self defined intellectuals and people who are or think they are the elite.
A lot of people over the last century (+) thought it was a good idea until they found themselves living with it.
The lesson was that pure ideology on either end won't work.
Generally omitted from that lesson has been the fact that your professor probably held himself to be one of those elites who would somehow be 'more equal than other animals' within a socialist system.
same reason they rooted up temples and cemetaries in China: remove the competing ideologies and leave only the state intact to 'support the masses'.