Are you sure they don't mean one of these?
Posted on 12/02/2006 8:52:46 PM PST by jdm
PORTLAND, Ore. Dec 2, 2006 (AP) — Authorities said Saturday that new clues in their search for a San Francisco family who went missing a week ago during a vacation in Oregon show no indication of foul play.
The Douglas County Sheriff's Office said a search of James and Kati Kim's credit history showed they had stopped for dinner Nov. 25 in Roseburg, about 160 miles south of Portland and 65 miles northeast of Gold Beach. The Kims and their two children had reservations at a lodge in Gold Beach but never arrived.
"We don't have any indication of foul play," Sgt. Roger Loomis told KATU-TV. "They were in Roseburg, they had dinner and they left, and that's about the only information we have right now."
Someone reported seeing the family's vehicle in the same area as the restaurant, according to the sheriff's office.
The family saw friends in Portland on Nov. 25 and then headed toward home after a Thanksgiving trip to the Pacific Northwest.
Searchers have been combing Oregon highways and byways using snow machines and helicopters. The couple have two children, Penelope, 4, and Sabine, 7 months.
What's a snow machine and how would that help in looking for them?
I'm thinking ski-doo (a jet ski for snow), and you can cover a LOT of ground on one in a few hours
What about the credit history from Nov. 26 through Dec. 2?
How does he really know no foul play was involved?
"No indication of foul play" and "No Foul Play Suspected" don't mean the same thing.
Gotta wonder why they haven't employed the use of this:
The WAPA helicopter is equipped with an infrared device which will be used for its heat seeking capability. The helicopters are being used to carry searchers into the back country and conduct aerial searches.
They might, but that's called a sno-cat. Thy're used mostly for grooming ski runs etc. A bit wide and ungainly for scooting through the Oregon woods, don'tcha think?
Since they haven't found them yet, they have to go with the latter, I suppose.
People with kids that young don't just "take a longer route" on their vacation without telling someone.
Well, I was thinking they could use it in the wide open spaces- it appears to cover a lot more ground.
My family and I have changed plans without telling anyone before but what we wouldn't do was not cancel a reservation because after a certain time you get charged whether you show up or not.
Prayers they will be found alive and well......a few years ago there was a couple who ended up stranded on a road in Oregon during a snowstrom.....and weren't found for several days......but they survived.
There probably is none. they probably both had cell phones and there are no calls.
Could be a good source to bookmark.
While I lived at home before I got married, my parents always insisted on my checking in when I travelled. They told me quite plainly that they trusted me and weren't checking up on me but just wanted to know I was safe. I appreciated it because I knew that if my car went off the road, I wouldn't be laying dying in a ditch for days. It was reassusing to me to know that someone would be looking for me within a matter of hours if I was too over due. It gives great peace of mind to know that someone iw looking out after you.
The News-Review - Roseburg, OR 97470
San Francisco Police Department [SFPD]: Missing Person: Kim Family
Depends on what you mean by "big." If by that you mean "a few hundred of them spread over the millions of square miles of the American West, then yes, they're big. But I have never heard of them kidnapping a fa,o;u off a public highway and murdering them because one of them was of a different race. Was that what you had in mind?
If you're from Moldova you may not realize that things are not as wild in America as is sometimes said in the rest of the world.
Thanks!
Supposedly, the weather was so bad at the time it was a "white-out". I have read that there are trecherous drop offs and cliffs in the area.
The situation sounds very bad indeed. Many prayers for this young family.
The weather was horrible at the time ... and the terrain is bad.
The last time this kind of thing happened in LA it was a well liked man in the Hollywood community missing on a drive from Las Vegas to LA. Family and friends searched high and low.
Over a year later he was found in his car having driven into some sort of water culvert ... so some such thing.
I can't remember where but there was a woman a few years ago that made a wrong turn in a snow storm. She was stranded several days but found alive.
One stop at a Denny's on the route they said they were taking on November 26 and that's it.
If were just two adults, they might still be okay. But there's a four year old and a seven month old baby. Doesn't look good.
It's more probable that this is the result of 1) the storm and 2) bad road selection across the Cascade mountain range. No matter how intelligent San Francisco residents may be, they mistakenly believe that the Nature Goddess is their friend - they're very, very wrong.
Unfortunately they do. I think it was about a year ago maybe two a family went missing in Oregon in their RV. The driver saw a road on the map and took it. Locals knew better than to take an RV across it anytime of year. The RV got in a snow storm and the road was closed for the winter. IIRC I think a family member finally had to hike out a considerable distance. It's been too long for me to remember the specifics of it but I remember reading about it. It was national new I think nearly three weeks. No sign of foul play and not to be found.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1747283/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
We've already been following this for days. Please do a search.
Wow. It sounds like they could use your help in Oregon- you seem to be good at searches.
We've been trying.
If you read the link, we've been contacting all Seattle stations.
It look like NWCN has it covered on the Oregon side.
If I remember right - at least one of the highways leading over to the coast have large dead zone areas - making cell phone calls impossible.
As a practical matter, an oriental/caucasian couple is going to be pretty far down on the list of concerns for most racists.
Just thinking outside the box- and I'm not the only one
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1746739/posts?page=54#54
Yes, that does happen. And probably more often than dying in such mishaps.
He was found in the aqueduct on Hwy 14 in Palmdale.
I've been praying for them, too. I hope they are found soon.
Bump
The higher areas between where they were last known to be and their hotel for the night are snowbound in the winter. Many of those twisty roads are not maintained during the winter. A couple of families have gone onto a "road they saw on the map" and got trapped. One guy was alone in his camper, and they found him when the weather thawed, about 8 days after he died.
I think it was just last year when a larger group got into trouble in the same manner.
The snow gets deep enough and unaware drivers don't see the signs that state "road not maintained".
Bump.
OSP news conference: Mom and kids found off a remote road. Mom was signaling with an umbrella. Have been taken to the hospital. Dad went for help, and has not been found.
BREAKING NEWS: Family Members Found Police have found a mother and her two children who are part of a family who disappeared while vacationing in Oregon. The father reportedly left two days ago to try to get help and is still missing.
http://www.katu.com/
Does anyone know what tonight's temperature would be (approximately) in the area the father may be lost?
Leni
I believe this is what probably has happened to this family and I pray they will be found soon.
The mother and children are found and on the way to the hospital.
Leni
PING
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