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Terri's Story
Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation ^ | December 3,2006 | Schindler Foundation

Posted on 12/03/2006 3:03:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: T'wit

Well stated.


1,281 posted on 01/07/2007 1:09:49 PM PST by rosalita
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To: T'wit
but even on the silver screen, I don't think I've ever seen a movie character mean enough to kill his wife's cats and steal her wedding rings to make a ring for himself.

I think you got something there. I will have to think about it. I can't remember anyone in the movies dehydrating their wife either. I can't even remember a movie where someone took animals to a vet, who said he could find a home for them, and still insisted on killing them. One thing about Michael, he acquired help to kill Terri's cats, and acquired help to kill Terri.

1,282 posted on 01/07/2007 5:05:50 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
More on Ashley, this time a bit confused but well meaning, anyway having Mikey pegged...

Once again, severely handicapped little kids remain mercifully naturally small and about their only hope for optimum survival is that experiments not take place. For sometimes well meant intentions, if misguided, parents will want to see their child not growing scoliotic with time, and will want the child to look more normal even if the procedures are high risk. They may imagine their children growing normally into adulthood with all the dangers, yet the child's own development is self-limiting. Range of motion exercises can make limbs more flexible, but lack of muscle control leads to atrophy and to smaller muscles overall. Parents can look nearly anywhere for examples, unless they blind their reason with false hopes and fantasy.

I applaud this writer's efforts to find a contrast to the cruelty visited on so many children, but I cannot find a worthy motive for Ashley's parents to opt out and jeopardize this precious life with such experiments.

I can only suppose this writer imagines such a child growing normally into adulthood when in reality it just doesn't happen.

America is plagued by irresponsible adults who seem either incapable or unwilling to care for their children. Not a day passes without a story of a young girl being molested by a family member, or an infant "forgotten" and left in the car on a hot sunny day.

On the last day of 2006, a 3-year-old boy was found wandering along I-465 in Indianapolis wearing only a diaper and t-shirt. His mother was asleep in their squalid apartment. When police reached the boy’s home, his mother was still asleep, and his sister, also quite young, was eating cold spaghetti off the floor.

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With all the abuse and neglect of children in this country, it is a rare pleasure to hear of someone who truly goes above and beyond the call to care for a child. Such is the case of "Ashley X" (her parents are attempting to remain anonymous).

Ashley was born with static encephalopathy, and has no use of her arms and legs. She can't hold her head up on her own. She cannot eat normally and requires a feeding tube. Ashley can't even roll over in bed by herself. And Ashley's mind has not and will never develop beyond that of a newborn. She will remain in a newborn's tiny world all of her life.

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In a world where monsters like Michael Schiavo are free to murder for convenience, where child abuse and neglect are rampant and abortion is considered a viable option to condom use, these loving people have sought the higher ground. Mr. and Mrs. X, I salute you.

Meanwhile, I am not saluting Mr. and Mrs. X...

The Ashley Treatment

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1,283 posted on 01/08/2007 4:03:53 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Those scary Christians....

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Of course there are Christian fascists in America. How else to describe, say, the administrator of a faith-based drug treatment program who bound and beat a resident, then subjected her to 32 straight hours of recorded sermons? Or American Veterans in Domestic Defense, the uniform-clad cadres who took former Chief Justice Roy Moore’s Ten Commandments monument on tour after a judge banned it from the Montgomery, Ala., judicial building? (American Jews, the group’s founder explained, are “a driving force behind trying to take everything to do with Christianity out of our system.”) Whatever one’s definition of this most vexed of “f” words, in a time when the chief of staff for United States Senator Tom Coburn tells a reporter soon after the Terri Schiavo crisis, “I don’t want to impeach judges; I want to impale them,” to flinch from examining the authoritarian impulses coursing through American life becomes a moral abdication.

Christian Empire

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1,284 posted on 01/08/2007 4:16:50 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee; narses
Ping to wagglebee thread on morning after pill. Thanks wagglebee, narses.

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new study reported in a prestigious medical journal confirms that the morning after pill does not reduce either abortion or pregnancy rates. The survey, published this month in the Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology, covers the use of the Plan B drug in 10 countries.

New Study: Morning After Pill Doesn't Reduce Abortion, Pregnancy Rates

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1,285 posted on 01/08/2007 4:22:19 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: bjs1779
>> One thing about Michael, he acquired help to kill Terri's cats, and acquired help to kill Terri.

And that's important. There's a poster* in a different thread who asserted the Michael, as guardian, had not only the complete legal right but the moral duty to make the decision to kill Terri. But how could that be? What was seven years of litigation about?

The answer, of course, is that Michael had to get state permission to murder his wife. As you say, he needed help to do the killing. Guardianship per se is NOT a murder license and it's not a medical license.** People who say the state shouldn't interfere obviously have not seen Judge Greer's orders to execute Terri. The state DID interfere big time -- ironically, to prevent Terri's family from making private medical decisions.

(*I'm not going to ping him because I only want to borrow this example of a view held by many.)

(**Michael, with a lot of help from Greer, demonstrated that guardianship IS a slave-owning license and that problem, imo, will take a constitutional correction. It guts the 14th amendment.)

1,286 posted on 01/08/2007 4:47:26 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: All; wagglebee; Liz
Imagine that! Even if embryonic stem cells do have promise, we don't have to kill little babies anymore to get them. I wonder if those on the left will be overjoyed.

Thread from Liz

Scientists said they had found a plentiful source of stem cells that sidesteps the controversy over destroying human embryos.....Researchers at Wake Forest and Harvard reported stem cells drawn from amniotic fluid donated by pregnant women hold much the same promise as embryonic stem cells........they were able to extract the stem cells without harm to mother or fetus and turn their discovery into several different tissue cell types, including brain, liver and bone. "Our hope is that these cells will provide a valuable resource for tissue repair and for engineered organs....." said Dr. Anthony Atala, of Wake Forest.....

WOMB FLUID A STEM-CELL TROVE: DOCS (Wake Forest/ Harvard report)

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1,287 posted on 01/08/2007 5:04:36 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: 8mmMauser
Imagine that! Even if embryonic stem cells do have promise, we don't have to kill little babies anymore to get them. I wonder if those on the left will be overjoyed.

I doubt the left will be rah-rahing over this breakthrough. This development considerably lessens the left's favorite posture---that of being "victims" of right wing religious zealots (/sarc).

1,288 posted on 01/08/2007 5:20:13 AM PST by Liz (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln)
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To: Liz; 8mmMauser
I doubt the left will be rah-rahing over this breakthrough. This development considerably lessens the left's favorite posture---that of being "victims" of right wing religious zealots

It is my long-held belief that the left could really care less about embryonic stem cells vs. adult (including all non-embryonic) stem cells. They are keeping embryonic stem cells in the public eye, and pushing them as the only real hope for mankind, for one reason and that is to provide an additional safeguard for infanticide. Their hope has been to create in the public's mind that ESC research is the panacea for every imaginable malady and that to "improve lives" it's necessary to murder embryos. To that end, any evidence to the contrary is either discredited or totally ignored.

1,289 posted on 01/08/2007 8:13:09 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: 8mmMauser
I just took a look at the FDA specs for Plan B. It has both contraceptive and abortifacient effects, depending on how far along the conception process goes. Iow, sometimes it's contraception, sometimes it's an early abortion.

Therefore, if the number of other abortions remains the same (as this study finds), Plan B drugs add to the total and perforce increase overall abortions.

1,290 posted on 01/08/2007 9:53:58 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> America is plagued by irresponsible adults who seem either incapable or unwilling to care for their children.

Another direct byproduct of liberal "me, me, me" "now" "now" "now" thinking. No view is crueller to children than the modernist delusion that life has no higher purpose and no moral responsibility.

1,291 posted on 01/08/2007 10:06:55 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: T'wit
There's a poster* in a different thread who asserted the Michael, as guardian, had not only the complete legal right but the moral duty to make the decision to kill Terri.

That's part of the talking points. There's more than one poster that makes that claim. You couldn't possibly ping them all.

1,292 posted on 01/08/2007 10:17:01 AM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: Liz
>> the left's favorite posture---that of being "victims" of right wing religious zealots (/sarc).

A view they hold while simultaneously believing that the same right-wingers are retardos and crazy. I like it. We who are much stupider and crazier than they, are nevertheless able to dominate, manipulate and victimize them! Life is sweet :-)

Pssst. Meeting at midnight tonight in the usual spot, behind the dumpster, to reveal the secret how we control them and to discuss how we are going to increase the radiation our control day by day by day until their heads vibrate and their nasal cavities explode! Shhhh!

1,293 posted on 01/08/2007 10:20:32 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: Liz

Per my note just above, here's one rabid right-winger willing to admit that liberals DO have brains. At least, I can't imagine how they could be wrong every time without giving it a good deal of thought.


1,294 posted on 01/08/2007 10:26:38 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: BykrBayb

Um, one of the many found himself in an untenable position and changed his line already. Tch.


1,295 posted on 01/08/2007 10:30:47 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: wagglebee
Harrumph. If the left is successful in carving up all the surplus babies for stem cells, there won't be any babies left to eat!!

A Modest Proposal

1,296 posted on 01/08/2007 10:37:00 AM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: T'wit

Today's test of our mind control gases went off without a hitch. We'll be in full production soon. Bwahahhaa!!!


1,297 posted on 01/08/2007 10:39:11 AM PST by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
>> Today's test of our mind control gases went off without a hitch.

SHHHH! Later. Later.

1,298 posted on 01/08/2007 12:33:22 PM PST by T'wit (Liberalism is in every particular the attitude and tactics of insufferable little girls.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Haleigh Poutre update...

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WESTFIELD - A newly appointed state House committee will hold hearings this month to address concerns raised over the Department of Social Services' oversight of child abuse victim Haleigh Poutre.

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The DSS attempted to end Poutre's life support eight days after she was hospitalized on Sept. 11, 2005, and six days after gaining temporary custody of the girl. The state Supreme Judicial Court, not knowing the girl had been showing signs of improvement the week before, issued a decision on Jan. 17 approving the removal of life support. But the order was never carried out, and now the child is eating, breathing and communicating on her own at a Boston rehabilitation center, family members have said.

DSS officials could not be reached for comment yesterday.

Speaker Salvatore F. DiMasi ordered the establishment of the committee. It was adopted by the House yesterday.

"This child is not alone, and other children have been or are at risk of being likewise victimized," said state Rep. Geoffrey D. Hall, D-Westport, chairman of the House Committee on Post Audit and Oversight and a member of the 11-member committee, which also includes state Rep. Donald F. Humason Jr., R-Westfield.

Hearings to deal with child abuse

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1,299 posted on 01/09/2007 3:36:16 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All; wagglebee
Ping to wagglebee thread on Texas Designer Babies...

A Texas fertility clinic now promoting its plan to "design" babies for customers is moving society another step down the road toward full-blown eugenics in the United States, where there would be certain categories of lives that simply would be valueless, according to a spokesman for an organization of physicians.

"I hope we have the gumption to have laws passed that will prohibit this," Dr. Gene Rudd, the associate executive director for the Christian Medical Association, told WND. "But one we've gone so far, how can you justify not going just a little bit further … down that ethical abyss."

Hitler-style 'designer' babies coming under fire in Texas

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1,300 posted on 01/09/2007 3:45:39 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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