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Terri's Story
Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation ^ | December 3,2006 | Schindler Foundation

Posted on 12/03/2006 3:03:26 AM PST by 8mmMauser

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To: indylindy
>> I notice that those of their ilk use law to replace the need for morality.

Good observation. At least, so long as they agree with the law they use to justify themselves!

But to use statutory law this way is to confess that they either don't know right from wrong, or are willing to do evil if it's legal (or if they run no legal risk). This is ironic. Until recently, -- and no doubt still so today in some jurisdictions, -- not knowing right from wrong was the LEGAL definition of criminal insanity!

The thinking is, if a person is incapable of understanding that he is committing a criminal act, he cannot be tried for the crime. He IS, however, locked away in a padded cell, so that he can't do it again.

Those who hide behind statutory law to justify immorality are candidates for that padded cell. They don't know right from wrong.

101 posted on 12/04/2006 1:34:58 PM PST by T'wit (Using the right word instead of the almost-right word is like getting laid instead of laid off.)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit; bjs1779; BykrBayb
In remembrance of Terri's birthday bttt.

Is this going to be Dec. Dailies or special thread only? I have news about Attorney Mark Adams. He has a hearing tomorrow about his situation w/Judge Crockett Farnell and Battaglia Law Firm (cristonists).

ATTORNEY MARK ADAMS: Hearing scheduled for 12/5/2006 at 09:30 AM at Tampa, FL - Courtroom 8A, Sam M. Gibbons Courthouse, 801 N. Florida Avenue.

(after action report has been requested).

Back to the thread. Monsignor Malanowski is a great man.

Finally, my mom is doing better! Thanks for all your prayers.

102 posted on 12/04/2006 1:36:15 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: highball; 8mmMauser
8mmMauser: We are countering an effort by the far left and allies to install a program of euthanasia.

highball: Which is a political agenda.

So was our war against the Hitler's eugenics program a "political agenda"? Because most of Western Civilization considers it one of the Twentieth Century's noblest acts.

103 posted on 12/04/2006 1:37:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: 8mmMauser
Free Republic had their own table at Terri's 40th Birthday Party. Our theme was a Daniel Webster cloth doll,"Hear Ye, Hear Ye, Terri's Forty" and a printout of titles of approx. 600 FR threads was displayed there. There were thousands of posts. A & E hung out at the FR table cuz we had peppermint lifesavers.

A Terri supporter from out of state sent a giant bouquet of fancy flowers which served as the centerpiece of the Freeper table and were presented to the Schindlers when the gathering was over.

104 posted on 12/04/2006 1:42:45 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: lula
Lula, Terri's Legacy is saving lives. How the machine operates is being revealed in bits and pieces and more good folks will join the fight against euthanasia - and what a machine it is.

In our favor is that we all came together from all quarters as people with different talents and abilities. In our own ways, we shall not rest because the machine does not.

Terri changed my life. God Bless her memory.

105 posted on 12/04/2006 1:51:28 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: Lesforlife

Well, happy belated birthday to you, LFL. I was just referring to talent and ability. You possess both.


106 posted on 12/04/2006 1:52:43 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

We are showing respect in memory of Terri and in my case, my admiration for her parents and siblings shall never cease. They are excellent role models for faith and strength under fire.


107 posted on 12/04/2006 2:01:14 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: bjs1779

Elian was kidnapped right from Florida right before Easter, drugged and whisked back to Fidel for indoctrination. Janet Reno liked raids, no?


108 posted on 12/04/2006 2:04:35 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

The real investigation was spiked. The person who spiked it will likely get a new position in our next governor's cabinet.


109 posted on 12/04/2006 2:10:31 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser
I left grassroots activism after Tom Gallagher lost the race for governor. I'm not here for any political or social agenda. I happen to know right from wrong. I hope that's enough of a reason for me to be on this thread.

Hunger is widespread around the globe. It is wrong wherever it is occurring.

It shouldn't happen in America and remember that first, Judge Greer took Terri's rehab monies and handed them to death lawyers. Terri was robbed first.

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com

Stop it, America.

110 posted on 12/04/2006 2:17:03 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: Dante3

bttt.


111 posted on 12/04/2006 2:17:54 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: T'wit
Some folks here don't know the Florida Statutes, not even the judges.

Some posters are quick to mention the rule of law. They are from the george greer school of thought which is the highest of insult.

112 posted on 12/04/2006 2:22:00 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: wagglebee; 8mmMauser
So was our war against the Hitler's eugenics program a "political agenda"?

Who exactly are "the Hitler's" in your example? I don't follow that sentence.

Are you referring to Adolph Hitler? We're not talking about military goals in a war here. We're talking about every citizen's right to work towards change the laws of our nation and influence public policy. Which is by definition a political agenda.

I don't see why some people are getting so hung up on that term. I imply nothing perjoritive by it. It's simply descriptive.

113 posted on 12/04/2006 2:25:17 PM PST by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: floriduh voter
Judge Greer broke numerous laws. Yet wimpy Jeb Bush (or anyone else in Florida) did nothing.
114 posted on 12/04/2006 2:32:32 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3
Speaking of governors: Florida's governor elect Charlie Crist announced today that in 2005, HATE CRIMES were down in Florida. (but there was always that exclusionary clause regarding Terri Schiavo) sarcasm tag

HEADS UP: Floridians have four years of heinous spin to endure. I guess that was a sampling. CC was a lousy AG.

115 posted on 12/04/2006 2:38:07 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: highball
I think a problem here is a hang-up on words. This is a thread on tribute to Terri and not on semantics and I hope you are careful not to fall into the trap I mention perhaps too much in such threads. But I am repeating it here for clarity.

As you say, "words mean something". They sure do to liberals who use the words as tools, not necessarily for their essence. Liberals tend to project their own fears and trepidations into words cast upon their perceived opponents. Hence, my analogy, Haters call people they hate haters.

This manner of logic is common to liberal thought process and is used ad nauseum, an easy technique to pick up unwittingly. So when you were describing our motives in your posts, perhaps without realizing, you were echoing the thought processes of the left. In so doing, you found posters here who recognized the syntax as if blazing on a neon sign. It sounds out of place here to engage a tilt with words as so many other threads are available for that exercise.

This is a more solemn one, a tribute to Terri.
116 posted on 12/04/2006 2:42:41 PM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: highball

P.S. Congrats on little Highball Junior, with a birthday near to my own. God bless him.

8mm


117 posted on 12/04/2006 2:44:26 PM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: floriduh voter

http://www.priestsforlife.org/


118 posted on 12/04/2006 2:44:38 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser
Your regularly scheduled ping to Terri's List, VIDEOS OF TERRI:

http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com/#videos

119 posted on 12/04/2006 2:49:02 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: indylindy

;)


120 posted on 12/04/2006 2:49:28 PM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: floriduh voter

Oh, yeah I believe that. Such stupid theories cannot answer the simple question "Why would anyone spike an investigation into a possible murder?" And the answer is "Obviously they would not."

But logic, facts and information mean nothing to the True Believers.


121 posted on 12/04/2006 2:51:28 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

There are lots of euthanasia enthusiasts in Florida's local, county and state agencies. If an investigator has the misfortune of working for one of them, they will be ordered to stop an investigation and given a transfer to another location. That's how it's done.


122 posted on 12/04/2006 3:09:20 PM PST by floriduh voter (Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser

I will say this. The people out there that denied Terri a right to food and water have no problem giving food stamps and water to those who are perfectly capable of working and providing food and water for themselves. They do not believe in God, this is why they have no problem separating morality from legality. The court is their God. As long as courts and lawmakers make law where morality is not an issue, we will have unjust laws. As long as man, man who is basically selfish and has personal interests in mind, is in control, the bar for who is expendable will keep rising. This is why God is there, we are quite incapable of being just. Terri(by the way Terri, you have not died in vain)has reinforced the issue of why it is not our choice. It was really no problem for any of us if Terri had lived. The real liberal issue here was making the disabled game for extrmination. Remember, It took very little for Terri to be fed, and she was loved by a wonderful family. A Tribute to you Terri, by someone with a crippled leg.


123 posted on 12/04/2006 3:30:05 PM PST by dforest
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To: highball
Who exactly are "the Hitler's" in your example? I don't follow that sentence.

The poster said, "So was our war against the Hitler's eugenics program".

Do you follow that sentence now?

124 posted on 12/04/2006 3:58:35 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
Terri has taught us how to love perfectly- the gift of life.

So, too, has her family.

125 posted on 12/04/2006 4:12:45 PM PST by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: bjs1779

Exactly.


126 posted on 12/04/2006 4:17:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: indylindy; 8mmMauser
They do not believe in God, this is why they have no problem separating morality from legality. The court is their God. As long as courts and lawmakers make law where morality is not an issue, we will have unjust laws. As long as man, man who is basically selfish and has personal interests in mind, is in control, the bar for who is expendable will keep rising.

Perfect!

Remember, It took very little for Terri to be fed, and she was loved by a wonderful family.

She had a loving family that was more than able to take care of her and there were millions of dollars pledged to do whatever was necessary to keep her alive, including paying off her adulterous, ghoulish "husband."

A Tribute to you Terri, by someone with a crippled leg.

Almost all of us know somebody with some sort of disability or have elderly loved ones and all of us will someday be in our "twilight" years -- and I for one do not want some black-robed tyrant deciding that my life or a loved one's life is "no longer worth living."

127 posted on 12/04/2006 4:27:37 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: floriduh voter
Finally, my mom is doing better! Thanks for all your prayers.

I think you done good FV.

128 posted on 12/04/2006 4:33:31 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: highball

So to your way of thinking, preventing genocide is nothing more than a political agenda?


129 posted on 12/04/2006 4:36:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: RGSpincich

You are so right. Didn't they sell the names of the people who donated money to them to some Religious or telemarketing group?


130 posted on 12/04/2006 4:42:34 PM PST by hodaka
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To: floriduh voter
>> Some posters are quick to mention the rule of law.

No kidding. The less they know about law, the louder they get. I would include an honorable mention to Stephen Breyer after his comments over the weekend. If he wants to post here I'll 'splain it to him :-)

131 posted on 12/04/2006 4:49:00 PM PST by T'wit (Using the right word instead of the almost-right word is like getting laid instead of laid off.)
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To: T'wit; floriduh voter

We took care of Breyer here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1747897/posts


132 posted on 12/04/2006 4:53:18 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: hodaka; RGSpincich

And I suppose you are supportive of Michael Schiavo making the kind of money he is from his wife's murder and his campaigning for the Democrats?


133 posted on 12/04/2006 5:12:28 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: T'wit

Typical lib reaction. This is a tribute thread to Terri. They act like it is a debate on why the family is so corrupt, therefore it is okay that Terri should die. Libs destroy the innocent in order to justify their own guilt. I guess the ones that post here are looking for someone to agree to make them feel better! Maybe they are looking for hope. Otherwise there is the Huffpo.


134 posted on 12/04/2006 5:14:30 PM PST by dforest
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To: hodaka
You are so right. Didn't they sell the names of the people who donated money to them to some Religious or telemarketing group?

Was that before Michael had her dehydrated or after he had her killed by dehydration?

135 posted on 12/04/2006 5:16:58 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

You will have to ask the Schinder's.


136 posted on 12/04/2006 5:25:27 PM PST by hodaka
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To: hodaka
You will have to ask the Schinder's

Do you mean that you don't know?

137 posted on 12/04/2006 5:39:49 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

I was asking a question because I heard that they sold the list of donors to some firm. I wanted some verification.


138 posted on 12/04/2006 5:43:01 PM PST by hodaka
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To: hodaka
I was asking a question because I heard that they sold the list of donors to some firm. I wanted some verification.?

For posterity purposes, you don't mind if Terri's rehap money was spent to kill her, right?

139 posted on 12/04/2006 5:50:52 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: highball
>> I don't see why some people are getting so hung up on that term. I imply nothing perjoritive by it.

Oh? It was certainly "perjoritive" [sic] to scream in boldface type that we are "exact"ly the "same" as leftwingers, and to accuse us, as you did, of, quote, "hypocrisy."

One more time. We're not here to score political points. We are investigating a crime. In that effort, stretching over several years, we have posted many hundreds of articles and news items, and added scores of thousands of comments.

If you want to learn something about the case, start reading. This is the place.

140 posted on 12/04/2006 5:51:23 PM PST by T'wit (Using the right word instead of the almost-right word is like getting laid instead of laid off.)
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To: bjs1779

I guess you don't know, or don't want to know the answer to my question.


141 posted on 12/04/2006 5:55:14 PM PST by hodaka
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To: hodaka
I guess you don't know, or don't want to know the answer to my question.

Sure I do, that is why I asked you that question.

142 posted on 12/04/2006 5:58:16 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: hodaka

They did allow a firm to use names and email addresses of those who donated to Terri's plight. The Schindlers worked with a firm well versed in telemarketing. Thousands of unsuspecting donors' personal contact information was sold and rented out. In addition to one time use fees, they found a way to charge advertisers/fundraisers by the month to use the information.


143 posted on 12/04/2006 6:01:58 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: RGSpincich
Thanks for the info RG. Bjs1779 couldn't provide me with the answer.
144 posted on 12/04/2006 6:05:58 PM PST by hodaka
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To: RGSpincich
They did allow a firm to use names and email addresses of those who donated to Terri's plight. The Schindlers worked with a firm well versed in telemarketing. Thousands of unsuspecting donors' personal contact information was sold and rented out. In addition to one time use fees, they found a way to charge advertisers/fundraisers by the month to use the information.

I was wondering, who had Terri killed? The Shindlers?

145 posted on 12/04/2006 6:07:44 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: dakine
It will never end in my heart. She was brutally murdered for convenience and money, and vengeance against her parents, imo.

Her murder was state sanctioned, pressed by a group of individuals hungry for the death of an incapacitated woman, a hunger they satisfied, just as they killed her by literally starving her to death.....oh, and not just by denying her food, oh no, they FORCED HER TO SUFFER THE AGONY OF THRIST. Even ICE CHIPS were forbidden to cool her cracking lips and tongue.

And just as her death remains a crime in my heart and mind, forever, her husband, THE MONSTER, was out fornicating with a woman, busy satisfying his need for sex, and fun and companionship. Oh yeah, and making babies to boot. And all the while Terri, so very inconveniently refused to die a natural death. Must have driven the monster crazy....ol mr. " Is the bitch dead yet " himself. He had Terri shoved into a hospice for the TERMINALLY ILL...

WHICH SHE NEVER WAS!)..... so he could hide the neglect and control Terri completely. Hospice is DESIGNED to ease people through death.....NOT people who feel HUNGER and THRIST and WANT TO LIVE.

No WONDER that monster wanted that body in the bed so loved by her bothersome parents killed.

And, oh my, hospice was so GLAD to comply, who the hell cares about the minor TERMINALLY ILL clause.

146 posted on 12/04/2006 6:08:05 PM PST by Republic (John Kerry should be impeached!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
>> Even more interesting is why so many amateur Columbos believe they know more about this than those who actually investigated it?

Who investigated it? Where is the report?

The investigation is here and ongoing. Maybe you can answer my usual question? The coroner made a point of throwing out the old "bulimia" theory nonsense. We are therefore left with no coherent explanation of Terri Schiavo's injuries. I keep hoping somebody can supply one. So, explain to me, please, how a healthy young woman, almost certainly asleep, ended up on the hallway floor, face down, in cardiac arrest and nearly dead, shortly after Michael came home late that Saturday night?

Your answer has to fit all medical findings including Terri's ER blood testing and the bone scan. Give yourself a bonus if you can explain where and why Michael lied to the police who responded to 911.

147 posted on 12/04/2006 6:09:27 PM PST by T'wit (Using the right word instead of the almost-right word is like getting laid instead of laid off.)
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To: hodaka

Bjs1779 did give you an answer, namely, that the question is entirely irrelevant to the case. Which is all one has to know. Irrelevant is irrelevant.


148 posted on 12/04/2006 6:16:36 PM PST by T'wit (Using the right word instead of the almost-right word is like getting laid instead of laid off.)
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To: hodaka
Thanks for the info RG. Bjs1779 couldn't provide me with the answer.

Why do you want to be robot? I really find this very sad.

149 posted on 12/04/2006 6:18:49 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

If you really need another memorial thread about Terri, I suggest you post a vanity or link an article from a website that does not solicit donations for the Schindlers. Monetary issues are relevant. This seemingly heartfelt article is nothing more than attempt to solicit donations by the Schindlers.


150 posted on 12/04/2006 6:23:30 PM PST by RGSpincich
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