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FRANCE: Royal stumbles in row over attack on Israel as 'Nazi'
The Times ^ | December 4, 2006 | Adam Sage

Posted on 12/03/2006 5:14:21 PM PST by MadIvan

Ségolène Royal, the French presidential candidate, was embroiled in a damaging row on a visit to the Middle East yesterday after appearing to condone a Hezbollah MP who denounced US “insanity” and compared Israel to the Nazis.

Ms Royal, the first woman with a realistic chance of winning the French presidency, was struggling to extricate herself from the controversy sparked by a meeting in Beirut with MPs, including Ali Ammar of Hezbollah.

In a 20-minute tirade Mr Ammar attacked “unlimited American insanity” for sending troops into Afghanistan and Iraq. He then said that Israeli “Nazism” was no better than Hitler’s Third Reich.

Ms Royal, who is on her first overseas trip since winning the Socialist Party primary, replied: “Thank you for being so frank. I agree with a lot of the things you have said, notably your analysis of the US.”

Her remark provoked a furore in France, where Philippe Douste-Blazy, the Foreign Minister, said that she had a simplistic vision of the Middle East. François Goulard, the Research Minister, said: “Ségolène Royal obviously doesn’t know what she’s talking about.”

Ms Royal was trying to limit the damage last night. She said that her interpreter had failed to translate Mr Ammar’s comparison between Israel and the Nazis. If he had, she would have walked out, she said.

Ms Royal went on to claim that she had not meant to attack Americans in general for insanity but only the Bush Administration over the war in Iraq.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: americahaters; eurotrash; france; hezbollah; israel; radicalleftists; socialists; terrorism; unholyalliance
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Well at least she's up front about it. It may help our man Sarkozy...or it may not.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 12/03/2006 5:14:23 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Mrs Ivan; odds; DCPatriot; Texican; Watery Tart; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 12/03/2006 5:14:48 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Every time I think I might be going a little hard on the French...


3 posted on 12/03/2006 5:17:08 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: MadIvan

If there's one other nation besides Germany that may want to avoid talking about nazis, it's france.


4 posted on 12/03/2006 5:18:31 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
This gaffe not only indicates she's loony left, it also indicates she isn't very bright.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 12/03/2006 5:19:25 PM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: MadIvan

Sounds like she has the youth vote sewn up.


6 posted on 12/03/2006 5:21:09 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: MadIvan

I wish US libs were as honest.


7 posted on 12/03/2006 5:25:19 PM PST by SIDENET (Everybody was kung-fu fighting)
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To: MadIvan
He then said that Israeli “Nazism” was no better than Hitler’s Third Reich.< snip >...Ms Royal...replied: “Thank you for being so frank. I agree with a lot of the things you have said, notably your analysis of the US.”
IVAN: This gaffe not only indicates she's loony left, it also indicates she isn't very bright.

She said that her interpreter had failed to translate Mr Ammar’s comparison between Israel and the Nazis.
OPTIMIST:Yeah, it's kinda like messing up the punch line of a a joke....
Right, Mr. Kerry?

8 posted on 12/03/2006 5:27:55 PM PST by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: MadIvan
"Well at least she's up front about it."

I have to doubt that her interpreter was incompetent (or dishonest) as she suggests. Therefore, I think she's lying.

In addition, I don't think being anti-Jew is an electoral handicap in france. Only the appearance of it is a political liability. She probably won't lose a single vote over this.

Recall Hillary Clinton's embrace of Suha Arafat, right after Suha made the "blood libel" accusations against the Israeli Jews. In New York, a state crawling with Jews, none of that hurt her a bit in her Senate campaign.

9 posted on 12/03/2006 5:30:03 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: rogue yam

Ribbit...ribbit...ribbit...


10 posted on 12/03/2006 5:34:40 PM PST by elcid1970 ("Tuir)
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To: MadIvan
He then said that Israeli “Nazism” was no better than Hitler’s Third Reich.

These guys vascillate between saying Hitler was a very bad guy and claiming the Holocaust never happened. .....whatever suits their rhetoric at the time.

11 posted on 12/03/2006 5:40:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Bonaparte
In New York, a state crawling with Jews, none of that hurt her a bit in her Senate campaign.

Nor did the numerous allegations (from reputable folks) of her making anti-Semitic statements throughout her life. Hillary could do everything but lead a neo-Nazi parade and leftist Jews would vote for her.

12 posted on 12/03/2006 5:45:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MadIvan
Ms Royal went on to claim that she had not meant to attack Americans in general for insanity but only the Bush Administration over the war in Iraq.

I'm sure Ms Royal won't take it personally, if I make a connection between French & retreat in her attempted backpedal.

13 posted on 12/03/2006 5:46:46 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: MadIvan

If Israel is the same as nazi Germany, why haven't the Israelis invaded France?


14 posted on 12/03/2006 5:48:46 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

15 posted on 12/03/2006 5:49:26 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: MadIvan

Come on, honey, tell the truth. John Kerry's been advising you, hasn't he?


16 posted on 12/03/2006 5:49:55 PM PST by D.P.Roberts
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FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

17 posted on 12/03/2006 5:50:10 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: MadIvan

hilaryclinton kissing suhaarafat redux.


18 posted on 12/03/2006 5:53:24 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: MadIvan
Isn't Ségolène Royal's campaign slogan "Tout que nous avons besoin est amour"?

Peace, love, dove...

19 posted on 12/03/2006 5:54:01 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Mr. Mojo

hilaryrodham was an early supporter of the PLO.....long before Arafat became acceptable in polite LIBERAL society.


20 posted on 12/03/2006 5:54:57 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: MadIvan

Of COURSE she thinks Americans are Nazis--or Capitalist Pigs if you prefer--and that Bush is a Texas cowboy (dirty word, for the French), and that America is the Great Satan.

I'm of the view that it won't hurt her chances for election a bit. Of course she has to make a mock apology, for diplomatic cover, but it would be suprising if she's the least bit sorry she said it.


21 posted on 12/03/2006 5:56:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Bonaparte
In New York, a state crawling with Jews, none of that hurt her a bit in her Senate campaign.

For what seems like the thousandth time on FreeRepublic, that's a fricken myth.

It hurt her a lot. So much that she should have lost.

In her first election she received 52-53% of the Jewish vote. That is death for state wide Democrat candidates in NYS where a winning Democrat gets near 75% of the Jewish vote. Less then that, when a Republican got a significant amount of Jewish votes, Republicans (D'Amato, Pataki) won.

She won because of unusual support from White Catholics.

In this 2006 election I don't know but I assume she got the usual Jewish vote. She has been acting as the perfect pro Israel NY US Senator.

22 posted on 12/03/2006 5:57:49 PM PST by Sabramerican (Says the piano player: America's greatest legacy will be to create a Palestinian State)
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To: Alouette

The correct question is:
If the Israelis are the same as Nazi germany, why hasn't France surrendered to them?


23 posted on 12/03/2006 5:59:05 PM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: RedRover

Don't you mean the "youth" vote?


24 posted on 12/03/2006 5:59:38 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource

You're right. I forgot the quotes! :)


25 posted on 12/03/2006 6:05:13 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: OldFriend; Mr. Mojo; Mia T

<< hilaryrodham was an early supporter of the PLO.....long before Arafat became acceptable in polite LIBERAL society. >>

Missus Clinton and her gang are as dangerous to America's and to Judeo-Christian/Western/Human Civilization as are the collectivized forces of islamanazism.

BUMPping


26 posted on 12/03/2006 6:10:58 PM PST by Brian Allen (B. Hussein bin B Hussein bin Hussein Obama is to Christianity what Michael Jackson is to hetrosexual)
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To: MadJack

Why are there trees along the Champs Elysées?

So the IDF can march in the shade.


27 posted on 12/03/2006 6:12:27 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 66-68)
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To: Sabramerican; Bonaparte

<< ... She has been acting .... >>

And woefully poorly and patently obviously, at that.

And yet New York's millions of criminal aliens still vote for her.


28 posted on 12/03/2006 6:14:13 PM PST by Brian Allen (B. Hussein bin B Hussein bin Hussein Obama is to Christianity what Michael Jackson is to hetrosexual)
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To: MadIvan

The political left does the same thing in this country. Invariably sides with the bad guys.


29 posted on 12/03/2006 6:15:27 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: Alouette
"If Israel is the same as nazi Germany, why haven't the Israelis invaded France?"

Boredom, the Israelis like at least a bit of a challenge.

30 posted on 12/03/2006 6:27:05 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: MadIvan

Why don't the people of France who lived during the Nazi occupation, you know, the ones ... WE LIBERATED! ... come out and call this woman an idiot? GOOD GRIEF!


31 posted on 12/03/2006 6:36:43 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: MadIvan

Why isn't there a single Republican with the guts to call for severing ties to France?


32 posted on 12/03/2006 6:43:15 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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To: MadIvan
She said that her interpreter had failed to translate Mr Ammar’s comparison between Israel and the Nazis. If he had, she would have walked out, she said.

Yeah, blame it on the translator. How typically patrician of her. LOL!

33 posted on 12/03/2006 6:47:46 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Making every thread a Star Wars thread, one at a time!!!)
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To: Optimist

Royal: Well, I agreed with his statement before I didn't.

Surely a Kerryism.


34 posted on 12/03/2006 6:56:42 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Holden Magroin

Why isn't there a single Republican with the guts to call for severing ties to France?

They took French in high school and like Perrier too much?


35 posted on 12/03/2006 6:57:57 PM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Holden Magroin

Never sever the ties that wine you!


36 posted on 12/03/2006 6:58:45 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: MadIvan

Anti-semitism has never been a negative in French politics.

The problem here is she shows her lack of foreign policy knowledge and experience. She is Hillary in a chicer pantsuit.


37 posted on 12/03/2006 7:00:09 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: OldFriend

"hilaryrodham was an early supporter of the PLO.....long before Arafat became acceptable in polite LIBERAL society"

And it hasn't hurt her one bit.

Kissing Suha Arafat and calling people f*ing Jew bastards hasn't hurt her one bit either.


38 posted on 12/03/2006 7:02:21 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: Bonaparte

The New York Jews are also busy buying Mercedes and BMW cars.


39 posted on 12/03/2006 7:07:37 PM PST by expatpat
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To: MadIvan
What this shows is her ability and willingness to bend over when the Muslims simply ask her to do so.
40 posted on 12/03/2006 7:19:41 PM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: Sabramerican
I can't disagree with a thing you've said.

Notwithstanding that, Hillary has now won the NY Senate seat twice in a row and handily. No squeakers. Her bizarre appearance with Suha may have lost her some NY Jewish votes, but it failed to stop her. If she tries running for president, that will be her Waterloo. Americans do not like her.

41 posted on 12/03/2006 7:23:16 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: GoLightly
"Ms Royal went on to claim that she had not meant to attack Americans in general for insanity but only the Bush Administration over the war in Iraq."

This line of reasoning always puzzles me. Doesn't she realize "Americans in general" elected Bush?
42 posted on 12/03/2006 7:31:25 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: keats5
This line of reasoning always puzzles me. Doesn't she realize "Americans in general" elected Bush?

LOL I know, but I think she must figure that those of us who were "stupid" enough to vote for him won't have the capability to put it all together like that. It's like she's patting us on our little heads with a soft platitude, so we'll go play while the grown ups can talk about important worldly things.

43 posted on 12/03/2006 7:42:42 PM PST by GoLightly
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is like comparing apples to fish, I dont see the Isralies opening death camps for Muslims.


44 posted on 12/03/2006 7:48:41 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: MadIvan
This gaffe not only indicates she's loony left, it also indicates she isn't very bright.

I have observed that the two characteristics go together quite well.

45 posted on 12/03/2006 7:50:05 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Cincinna
Kissing Suha Arafat and calling people f*ing Jew bastards hasn't hurt her one bit either.

I am sure such things help her immensely among the moonbat left, although I have heard moonbats complain that she is not radical enough. Why, to them, Hillary is some sort of a "moderate." That is scary.

46 posted on 12/03/2006 7:54:15 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: MadIvan
This gaffe not only indicates she's loony left, it also indicates she isn't very bright.

Sounds like she'd get along with Nancy Pelosi quite well.

PBear

47 posted on 12/03/2006 7:55:47 PM PST by pbear8 (Lord , thanks for bringing B16 back from Muzzieland safely)
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To: rogue yam
Every time I think I might be going a little hard on the French...

LOL. I interact w/foreign nationals quite a bit. A few years back one of them told me I wasn't being 'cosmopolitan' enough w/my hatred of the French. I don't give a rat's rear end about the French, their food, their culture, their inability to stand up for what's right, or for their own freakin' government in the face of Dhimmitude. Screw 'em.

48 posted on 12/03/2006 7:59:23 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Alouette

And why habven't the French surrendered?


49 posted on 12/03/2006 8:13:52 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Sabramerican
"She won because of unusual support from White Catholics."

Not this white Catholic.

50 posted on 12/03/2006 8:38:34 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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