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Constitution Party aims to thwart Hillary, GOP
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12/03/2006

Posted on 12/04/2006 10:01:36 AM PST by NapkinUser

As Hillary Clinton begins her own preparations to run for the presidency, the deciding factor of who will be the next commander in chief may have less to do with whomever is chosen as the Democrat or Republican nominee, and more to do with the choice of the Constitution Party.

This weekend at a national committee meeting in Manchester, N.H., Howard Phillips and the Constitution Party he founded set in motion the plans to launch its own third party candidate for president.

"The time has never been better for a third party dark horse candidate to grab the White House," Phillips told WND.

He affirmed that by next July, his party intends to nominate a presidential candidate, with possibilities for the ticket including Minuteman Project co-founder Jim Gilchrist, former Republican presidential candidate Alan Keyes, Baptist pastor Chuck Baldwin, and author and WND columnist Jerome Corsi.

The Constitution Party is also strongly supportive of Republican Congressmen Tom Tancredo and Ron Paul, but there is no decision yet that either would leave their home in the Republican Party to pursue a Constitution Party nomination. Tancredo has said numerous times he is considering a run for the presidency.

"The American public are angry at both the Democratic and Republican Party," Phillips said. "If neither major party wants to listen to the American middle class, the Constitution Party is ready to enter center stage and get back to the basics that have made the republic established by our founding fathers work for over 230 years."

The meeting was highlighted by a lineup of well-known conservative speakers, including those who may end up running.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; bushbotsangry; conservative3rdparty; constitutionparty; cp; electionpresident; fringe; getalife; joke; liberalgop; mccain; onepercenters; spoilers; worldnetdaily; worldnutdaily
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1 posted on 12/04/2006 10:01:40 AM PST by NapkinUser
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To: NapkinUser

Considering its size and demographics, the Constitutionists are in more of a position to thwart the Republicans than the Democrats, though their impact on both could be small.


2 posted on 12/04/2006 10:03:07 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( Should have put on a figurative arson suit before posting on a racism thread.)
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To: NapkinUser

Another step in Hillary's plan falls into place.


3 posted on 12/04/2006 10:03:36 AM PST by rocksblues (Do unto others as they do unto you!)
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To: NapkinUser

another Ross Perot a.k.a. the spoiler?

that's how Clinton got in with less than half the vote both times. Is this part of their strategy? divide and conquer?


4 posted on 12/04/2006 10:03:53 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: NapkinUser

Off to a great start... bad link.


5 posted on 12/04/2006 10:04:51 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
though their impact on both could be small.

Microscopic would be a better word.

6 posted on 12/04/2006 10:05:03 AM PST by glorgau
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To: NapkinUser

The CP needs to revise their foreign policy position.

Their statement, at least prior to the 04 election, was highly isolationist. That is just simply impractical in the modern world, especially with global economies and a global war on terrorism.


7 posted on 12/04/2006 10:05:11 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Should have put on a figurative arson suit before posting on a racism thread.

Or calling someone a liar..

8 posted on 12/04/2006 10:06:02 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
With an extraordinary effort, they might actually increase their share of the popular vote from 0.3% to 0.6%. If the Republicans do something stupid like nominate McCain, they could potentially increase that by a factor of 10 to, say, 6%, virtually assuring the witch at least a four year reign with a majority in both houses of congress.
9 posted on 12/04/2006 10:06:42 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: camle

These people are just Perot wannabes. In the end, they'll end up with less than half of one percent of the vote.


10 posted on 12/04/2006 10:07:22 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Consult your doctor before taking tagline. Do not take tagline with alcohol.)
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To: TomGuy

The repubs are on the ropes, if it wasnt the CP, it would have been another Perot, or Buchanan..


11 posted on 12/04/2006 10:07:40 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: TomGuy
The CP needs to revise their foreign policy position. Their statement, at least prior to the 04 election, was highly isolationist. That is just simply impractical in the modern world, especially with global economies and a global war on terrorism.

I agree completely. Everything else about it looks good though.

12 posted on 12/04/2006 10:11:22 AM PST by The Blitherer (Fight On!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

wouldn't have to get very many votes, 2000 was rather close. all they need to do is split conservatives adn they've won - hillary has won.


13 posted on 12/04/2006 10:12:02 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: cardinal4

This seems to be a standard cycle that both parties engage in... the party in power can't hold it together and splits (always blaming it on ignoring the base). Once they (Dems and Repubs) suffer the misery of being out of party for a few years, they manage to pull together to defeat the party in power.


14 posted on 12/04/2006 10:12:36 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Vigilanteman

The only way McCain wins is if conservatives decide to not vote in the Republican primaries and support some party that does not have a chance to win.


15 posted on 12/04/2006 10:13:35 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Consult your doctor before taking tagline. Do not take tagline with alcohol.)
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To: cardinal4

"The repubs are on the ropes"

Not at all.


16 posted on 12/04/2006 10:13:42 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: rhombus; All
Try this:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53207

17 posted on 12/04/2006 10:13:56 AM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: NapkinUser

Wing Nut Daily rides again. In the real world, the Contitution Party is a non-factor even by third-party standards (it typically tallies in at an order of magnitude lower in vote totals than the Libertarians or Greens).


18 posted on 12/04/2006 10:14:46 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
In the end, they'll end up with less than half of one percent of the vote.

That would mean they'd get 50% of the voters who have ever heard of this party.

19 posted on 12/04/2006 10:16:22 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

So basically, you'll vote for ANY republican, just "to stop Hillary." That's probably what the country clubbers in the party are wanting you to do.


20 posted on 12/04/2006 10:16:26 AM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: NapkinUser
Constitution Party aims to thwart Hillary, GOP


21 posted on 12/04/2006 10:17:46 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Prayers for my cousin Jeff and his family.)
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To: popdonnelly

Im no defeatist, but I believe the gang of 14 is what set the party reeling. Look at it this way, if Hillary was president, there would be no rogues, Dem congressfolks would tow the line on all policies made by the clinton white house. Oh, there would be a few detractors, but it would be for show. The "R"s went off the reservation so many times it was embarrasing. Not being able to control the Party cost the GOP dearly..


22 posted on 12/04/2006 10:18:38 AM PST by cardinal4
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To: NapkinUser
He affirmed that by next July, his party intends to nominate a presidential candidate, with possibilities for the ticket including Minuteman Project co-founder Jim Gilchrist, former Republican presidential candidate Alan Keyes, Baptist pastor Chuck Baldwin, and author and WND columnist Jerome Corsi.

Gilchrist, Keyes and Corsi are better than McCain, Giuliani and Hagel. In my personal opinion, of course.

23 posted on 12/04/2006 10:19:01 AM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: NapkinUser
Baptist pastor Chuck Baldwin, and author and WND columnist Jerome Corsi.

LOL, 33rd degree Masons of Kookism.

24 posted on 12/04/2006 10:19:44 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy BCS-based 12-team playoff can be implemented by next year. See my homepage for details.)
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To: camle

Ross Perot was able to bankroll his own campaign. The previous non-liberal third party Presidential candidate that had a significant electoral impact, George Wallace, had the benefit of harsh public reaction against race riots, rapidly increasing crime, and the burgeoning hippie movement. The Constitution Party lacks either the deep pockets of Ross Perot or mass public outrage on social issues (though the latter could change if President Bush and the Democrats allow for amnesty for illegal aliens). However, unless the GOP nominates a conservative for President or someone like McCain or Giuliani has to make big time and public promises on curbing abortion, opposition to the homosexual agenda, gun ownership rights, immigration control, selection of conservative justices, etc., to hold the conservative base, the Constitution Party could serve as a spoiler, or for that matter the Libertarian Party.


25 posted on 12/04/2006 10:19:58 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: NapkinUser
So basically, you'll vote for ANY republican, just "to stop Hillary." That's probably what the country clubbers in the party are wanting you to do.

Stop using your napkin as a diaper.

26 posted on 12/04/2006 10:21:06 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy BCS-based 12-team playoff can be implemented by next year. See my homepage for details.)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
The only way McCain wins is if conservatives decide to not vote in the Republican primaries and support some party that does not have a chance to win.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Move to the head of the class, friend!

27 posted on 12/04/2006 10:21:22 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Considering its size and demographics, the Constitutionists are in more of a position to thwart the Republicans than the Democrats, though their impact on both could be small.

I don't know; they pulled in an impressive 0.1% of the popular vote in 2004.

28 posted on 12/04/2006 10:21:26 AM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Wallace T.

well, as I said: it wouldn't take much of a spoiler.

2008 is HIllary's to lose. if she picks obama as a rumming mate (if I was her, I would) she'd be dern near unbeatable.


29 posted on 12/04/2006 10:22:45 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: NapkinUser
So basically, you'll vote for ANY republican, just "to stop Hillary." That's probably what the country clubbers in the party are wanting you to do.

Oh shut up with that crap. Just shut up.

Here it is in a nutshell: we'll vote for ANY Republican to stop the Democrats from destroying this country.

Now shut up. We already know you're in favor of the Democrats to protect your purist principles!

30 posted on 12/04/2006 10:22:48 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin

lol!


31 posted on 12/04/2006 10:23:28 AM PST by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS Is A Slap In The Face To The USBP!!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

" the Constitutionists are in more of a position to thwart the Republicans than the Democrats"

As usual, this is true in practical terms. I think maybe the best way any constitutionalist conservative could help push politics in the right direction would be to start up a fringe-left party to suck the moonbat vote away from the Dims.

Don't mistake me - I think the Constitution party's principles are on target. I'd gladly vote for their candidate in a race where they have a shot. I'm just a bit tired of a "stand on principles" always translating into "and so the people diametrically opposed to everything we stand for are now in power."

(IOW, No More Perot Effects!)


32 posted on 12/04/2006 10:23:34 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: NapkinUser

Oh, good. Another Ross Perot moment. *rolls eyes*


33 posted on 12/04/2006 10:24:10 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: NapkinUser

OMG--Alan Keyes again?? No way no how. Next they'll try Gary Bauer, the little pancake flipper'. LOL!


34 posted on 12/04/2006 10:24:46 AM PST by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: No.6

The CP needs to focus on state house races and lower. If they did that for the next 30 years, then, we could actually see the rise of a conservative party. But to run for Prez now is simply foolhardly. Nothing that is foolhardy can be considered conservative.


35 posted on 12/04/2006 10:25:40 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Wallace T.

"or someone like McCain or Giuliani has to make big time and public promises on curbing abortion"

This is a good point; a 3rd party's best (beneficial) effect is helping to shape the mainstream party's and candidate's platform during the primaries. At General Election time, though, they can have the opposite effect from the one they intend.


36 posted on 12/04/2006 10:26:24 AM PST by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Stop using your napkin as a diaper."

Stick to football threads. It's about the only place you post anything even remotely intelligent.
37 posted on 12/04/2006 10:26:24 AM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: sissyjane

Keyes was in Borat, by the way in case you didn't know.....


38 posted on 12/04/2006 10:26:44 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: NapkinUser

If the decision is between a bad Republican and a terrible Dem, I'll choose the bad Republican every time. My point, though, is that it doesn't have to be a bad Republican. If people would actually vote in the primaries, they wouldn't have as much to complain about in the general election.

Oh, and BTW, there is absolutely no way I'd give my vote to any North American Union conspiracy loon.


39 posted on 12/04/2006 10:27:04 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Consult your doctor before taking tagline. Do not take tagline with alcohol.)
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To: Howlin

the problem is that the republicans are looking more and more like democrats. and they have been weak for too long. without a strong candidate, they have their work cut out for them.

like going after a 32 gun frigate with a 12 gun sloop.


40 posted on 12/04/2006 10:29:20 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: South40

I wonder if they are dumb enough to think we're going to follow them down that rabbit hole again?


41 posted on 12/04/2006 10:29:43 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: sissyjane

Alan Keyes' greatest accomplishment? Putting Barack Obama in office!


42 posted on 12/04/2006 10:30:50 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
though their impact on both could be small

Approximately 20% of voters are Democrat.
Approximately 20% of voters are Republican.
Approximately 60% of voters are Independent or Other.


If a 3-rd party fielded a viable candidacy, they could have a tremendous impact. The trouble is that most 3-rd parties are single-issue parties.
43 posted on 12/04/2006 10:31:36 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Howlin

To be fair, just about anyone could have done that.


44 posted on 12/04/2006 10:33:18 AM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (Consult your doctor before taking tagline. Do not take tagline with alcohol.)
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To: camle

This is true; but you have to remember that there are people among us who LOVE to sew the seeds of dissention in the GOP.

And I have to disagree with the "looking more and more like Democrats" thing; I haven't seen the GOP advocating the draft or gays in the military; that's coming in January, for sure.


45 posted on 12/04/2006 10:33:36 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: camle

Decisions, decisions. Liberal democreeps, or liberal republicans.


46 posted on 12/04/2006 10:35:06 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Speel check? What for? It'll just become part of the FReeper lexicon.)
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To: NapkinUser

..if the CP would modify its foreign policy position (paleo-con isolationist) it might cause many from the GOP to jump ship...


47 posted on 12/04/2006 10:35:14 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: steve-b
He affirmed that by next July, his party intends to nominate a presidential candidate, with possibilities for the ticket including Minuteman Project co-founder Jim Gilchrist, former Republican presidential candidate Alan Keyes, Baptist pastor Chuck Baldwin, and author and WND columnist Jerome Corsi.

Laugh or cry, I can't decide.

48 posted on 12/04/2006 10:35:27 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin

the only reason rangle wants the draft is to get more libs into the armed forces, and generate a new generation of johbn kerry's, more civil unrest over the war, etc.. it's a losing strategy tho, and I doubt it'll happen.
as for gays in the military, ever hear of the 'log cabin' republicans?


49 posted on 12/04/2006 10:35:56 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

Yes, I have.

Are you saying that the Log Cabin Republicans are all in the military?


50 posted on 12/04/2006 10:37:11 AM PST by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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