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No, the Cops Didnít Murder Sean Bell
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2006-12-04hm.html ^ | Heather Mac Donald

Posted on 12/04/2006 12:20:29 PM PST by ventanax5

New York’s anti-cop forces have roared back to life, thanks to a fatal police shooting of an unarmed man a week ago. The press is once again fawning over Al Sharpton, Herbert Daughtry, Charles Barron, and sundry other hate-mongers in and out of city government as they accuse the police of widespread mistreatment of blacks and issue barely veiled threats of riots if they do not get “justice.”

The allegation that last weekend’s shooting was racially motivated is preposterous. A group of undercover officers working in a gun- and drug-plagued strip joint in Queens had good reason to believe that a party leaving the club was armed and about to shoot an adversary. When one of the undercovers identified himself as an officer, the car holding the party twice tried to run him down. The officer started firing while yelling to the car’s occupants: “Let me see your hands.” His colleagues, believing they were under attack, fired as well, eventually shooting off 50 rounds and killing the driver, Sean Bell. No gun was found in the car, but witnesses and video footage confirm that a fourth man in the party fled the scene once the altercation began. Bell and the other men with him all had been arrested for illegal possession of guns in the past; one of Bell’s companions that night, Joseph Guzman, had spent considerable time in prison, including for an armed robbery in which he shot at his victim.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; josephguzman; leo; nyc; seanbell
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1 posted on 12/04/2006 12:20:31 PM PST by ventanax5
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To: ventanax5

Fine article.

How many officers fired the 50 shots? 5 at 10 each?


2 posted on 12/04/2006 12:28:22 PM PST by sodpoodle (Human destiny - who lost the road map?)
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To: sodpoodle

one fired 31 shots.


3 posted on 12/04/2006 12:33:10 PM PST by diefree
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To: AliVeritas

PING


4 posted on 12/04/2006 12:33:34 PM PST by sono ("Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" - Gunnery Sgt Thomas "Gunny" Highway)
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To: diefree

When you have to fire 31 shots you are looking at quantity instead of quality.


5 posted on 12/04/2006 12:34:32 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002

That officer probably needs to practice gun control.


6 posted on 12/04/2006 12:39:29 PM PST by Past Your Eyes (Do what you love and the ridicule will follow.)
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To: ventanax5

The first cop to shoot was a black guy, I recall reading.


7 posted on 12/04/2006 12:40:36 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: sgtbono2002
A speeding car being used as a weapon is a target which requires a quantitative response.
8 posted on 12/04/2006 12:45:40 PM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: ventanax5

If I had some drug crazed drunk driving a car at me, I would unload more than just 50 bullets!!!!

Don't tell me any of you would just stand there and ask them to turn the car off....I own the Brooklyn Bridge if you answer yes.....


9 posted on 12/04/2006 12:47:22 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: ventanax5
Bell and the other men with him all had been arrested for illegal possession of guns in the past; one of Bell’s companions that night, Joseph Guzman, had spent considerable time in prison, including for an armed robbery in which he shot at his victim.

the more i hear of this story, its beginning to sound more justified.
10 posted on 12/04/2006 12:47:52 PM PST by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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Funny how the police would think these guys had any guns or had a record as long as your arm???
11 posted on 12/04/2006 12:47:55 PM PST by micho
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To: ventanax5

Try and run over a cop in any other state, and watch what happens - you WILL be shot for trying to kill that officer - plain and simple. The man behind the wheel of that car was a complete idiot. The others in the car were lucky they were not killed as well.

Sharpton and the other paper weights need to rethink their attitude, or the vigilante's of Newark may return.


12 posted on 12/04/2006 12:49:21 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: sgtbono2002

If there were 4 or 5 guys in the car that is only 6 shots per person.


13 posted on 12/04/2006 12:50:18 PM PST by merry10
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To: Sword_Svalbardt
Since this story first hit the airwaves, I've speculated that the guys in the car had no idea the guys outside the car were police officers.

Anyone who has been to this neighborhood in New York City will understand why someone in a car might behave exactly as these guys did when surrounded by a group of armed men.

14 posted on 12/04/2006 12:53:20 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: merry10

there were three guys in the car


15 posted on 12/04/2006 12:53:25 PM PST by diefree
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To: Alberta's Child

I don't believe they were surrounded


16 posted on 12/04/2006 12:54:28 PM PST by diefree
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To: ventanax5

I can hardly wait for Bruce Springsteen to write a song about this. Maybe it'll be a duet with Al Sharpton.


17 posted on 12/04/2006 12:58:31 PM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch

some rapper already wrote one, it's called something like "50 shots"


18 posted on 12/04/2006 12:59:24 PM PST by diefree
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To: Alberta's Child

Right, and if so, why did he try and run them over?

Next!

The guy knew, and he did not want to get nailed, but he was unaware of how much support this one officer had - did he or did he not find out the hard way?

SS


19 posted on 12/04/2006 12:59:55 PM PST by Sword_Svalbardt (Sword Svalbardt)
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To: diefree

I guess that's a matter of semantics. When it's 4 AM and you've got one guy an foot and several others in two vehicles (I believe this was the arrangement at the scene), there are plenty of reasons for any rational adult to wonder what the heck is going on.


20 posted on 12/04/2006 1:00:05 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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