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To: wideawake
New York City has about 40,000 police officers today, which means the city's police force -- in a city that covers only 321 square miles -- is almost one-third the size of the entire U.S. military contingent in Iraq today.

In addition, the fact that constitutional rights are abrogated in New York City as a matter of course (see Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution) would seem to support my contention that the place is a police state.

36 posted on 12/04/2006 1:24:29 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child
New York City has about 40,000 police officers today, which means the city's police force -- in a city that covers only 321 square miles -- is almost one-third the size of the entire U.S. military contingent in Iraq today.

(1) Iraq is not a police state.

(2) US military personnel are not the only people involved in policing Iraq. There are more than 250,000 local police and Iraq Security Forces personnel.

(3) Much of Iraq is rural.

(4) NYC has a population one-third the size of Iraq.

Silly comparison.

In addition, the fact that constitutional rights are abrogated in New York City as a matter of course (see Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution) would seem to support my contention that the place is a police state.

The right to own a pistol is largely abrogated in NYC. The right to own a rifle is not.

And stupid gun laws do not define a police state.

A police state involves the persecution, disenfranchisement, disability and imprisonment of people due to their ethnicity or their political or religious beliefs. It involves state control of the media. It involves laws against the free exercise of speech. It involves the lack of a right to to trial for offenses. It involves the ability of the police to detain citizens withoput charging them with crimes.

It's pathetic that you know so little about history that I have to explain the definition of a simple term to you in such detail.

50 posted on 12/04/2006 1:48:21 PM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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