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To: umgud

***The single biggest thing we need to do is to settle whether or not RKBA is individual and not collective right as some interpret Miller v. US.***

Go to the DREDD SCOTT case and read what Supreme Court Justice John tanney had to say about it.

He said that if Blacks were to be free men they would have the same rights as other men. That is, The right to enter and leave states un hindered, the right to hold political meetings and THE RIGHT TO GO ABOUT ARMED WHERE EVER THEY WENT.

Is it any wonder that before the Civil War the 2nd ammendment was considered a personal right but after the Civil war segregationists began to claim it was a "collective" right.


16 posted on 12/04/2006 2:48:13 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM "If you don’t know what you have to fear, you will not survive."---Hirsi Ali)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The problem is Miller v. US. It was never settled because the vic died, but many gun grabbers, Fienstien in particular, cite it as proving the RKBA is a collective right. Us gun lovers really want this to be heard before SCOTUS, but would like to see some of the libs off the court before this happens. This is why elections matter.


17 posted on 12/04/2006 2:52:38 PM PST by umgud (I love NASCAR as much as the Democrats hate Bush)
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