Posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:35 PM PST by sockmonkey
Wife and two daughters of senior editor James Kim found in Oregon; search is still on for James Kim, who left the car on foot two days ago.
The wife and daughters of missing CNET senior editor James Kim have been found alive and airlifted to a local hospital, authorities announced at a press conference in Merlin, Ore., Monday afternoon.
James Kim left the car on snowshoes two days ago to seek help and has not been found, the official said. The search for him continues.
According to the official speaking at the news conference, the conditions of Kati, Penelope and Sabine are not yet known. More details are expected at a press conference at 5 p.m. PST, which CNET will stream live.
Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.
After searches in Oregon's Curry and Douglas counties, new information on missing CNET senior editor James Kim and his family narrowed the search back to the Bear Camp area in Josephine County, according to reports Monday.
A cell phone tower received a signal from one of the family's cell phones at about 1:30 a.m. on Sunday near Glendale, but officials say the signal is only an indicator the family could have been within 26 miles of Glendale at that time, according to a report in The Oregonian.
WOW!
Good news ping
Folks, DO NOT EVER DO THIS. Stick with the vehicle. People tend to wait until they are too cold and weak to make it out before they leave, and a car WILL be found, people often aren't.
I fear for the worst on the dad. Cold weather, lost.
Prayers up for Kim - if he stuck to the road and avoided hypothermia he ought to be OK. If not, it could be very bad indeed.
Guys, in bad weather in remote areas, DON'T LEAVE THE CAR!
A car is much easier for searchers to spot than a body.
I'm afraid this does not bode well for the dad.
FYI
Hoping for good news on Dad.
We had one of these a couple of years ago. The dad didn't make it.
Words to live by, though.
Another point: pack a "go bag" in the back of the car. Food, water, space blankets, matches, signal mirror, first aid kit, maybe a tarp and some tinder (dryer lint works great). Then you can set up camp, light a fire, and keep warm while you're waiting to be rescued.
What do you mean ? Do you mean you shouldn't wait until you are too cold and weak to go out and seek help, or should not leave the vehicle at all ?
I'm hoping he could still see the road enough to follow it. They say some of those Oregon roads are so dangerous in winter that they're often almost abandoned entirely by the locals.
Waiting is the hardest work I know, but as an old country man of my acquaintance once said, "Don't just do something. Stand there."
I'm afraid this does not bode well for the dad.<
It doesn't, but I was beginning to think they wouldn't find any of them, so just one more miracle to go.
WOW! BUMP!
Does it say how they got to be where they were?
Double WOW!
I think you're right, but I'm hoping we're both wrong. Prayers up for the whole family.
Thanks RR.I wish he had stayed with the car.
Prayers for his safety.
In bad weather in remote areas, DON'T LEAVE THE CAR!
(Exception made for liberals.)
We're fairly experienced backcountry campers, we don't mess with wandering around in bad weather not knowing where we are.
You can kill yourself in north Georgia or the Smoky Mountain park just as easily as in Oregon. Doesn't get quite as cold, but it's surprising how quickly hypothermia can set in in relatively mild winter temperatures, particularly if you get wet.
Missing Family Ping...
Praying that the dad will be found alive..and that the mom and girls are ok...
(I have to admit I didn't think that any of them were still alive...me of little faith I suppose)..
I am so glad they were found.
Praise God .... they have been so much in my thoughts and prayers. Hope they find James, and soon.
We don't know yet in how bad shape the mom and kids are. They could have severe frostbite and/or hypothermia. Wet cold hits kids very, very hard, they haven't got the core temperature reserves of an adult.
No, there will be another press conference in at 5pm. I know they found Katie about 1:40pm, and the trooper said they were tracking James on sno-kats..I'm hoping that means that they could see his prints in the snow.
I remember the guy from Utah who had his hand caught between rocks in a canyon for two days. Think this was back in 2004. Only after cutting off his hand with a pen knife (!) did he manage to come out alive. I guess you also have to make a judgement call about your situation.
I'd suggest a two-way radio as well, either a CB radio or a ham radio. It's probably preferable to have both if you have the room, since CBs and (most) handheld ham radios generally use completely different frequencies that will carry in different ways and different directions. (You technically need a license for a ham radio, but in an emergency, the laws are clear: You can use any sort of transmitter available to you in a life or death situation, whether you'd be authorized to use it normally or not.)
"Does it say how they got to be where they were?"
They were found within the last couple of hours, nothing much is known. The news channels are all repeating the same stuff. They haven't even up dated their websites yet.
Maybe he should have used the snowshoes himself.
Seriously, he had snowshoes in the car?
Unless your extremely experienced AND PREPARED, in the mountains, never leave your car.
In a case like this he could have taken a tire off the car, or the spare, put some gas on it a started it on fire. Tires are very smokey and would have been seen very quickly.
Yah, that was not exactly clear. Rule #1 Don't leave the vehicle.Human nature is to stick around until they are cold, starving, or dehydrated. Once weakened, we will get a case of the homesies. The temptation has to be resisted.
Incredible. Thank God they were found. I hope James Kim makes it out.
Have you seen the "Man Law" commercials? He's in a few of them, even though he doesn't drink.
2. If he'd stayed with his car, he wouldn't have been down there hiking alone in the canyon.
3. Shifting or climbing over large loose rocks while hiking alone is yet another serious mistake.
Lord knows he paid dearly for it.
bttt
That would be the mother of all smudge pots.
Smart advice, though the natural instinct could be to take some sort of action yourself.
They were on vacation and headed towards a lodge. I looked at their web site a couple of days ago; seemed like the sort of place you might actually find a use for such things.
That would be easy..... until I ran out of cigarettes..
"In a case like this he could have taken a tire off the car, or the spare, put some gas on it a started it on fire."
The "BOOM" when the burning tire explodes would be a real attention-grabber, too. Might want to stand back, lol.
Ping!!!!!!!!!!!
I remember reading an article in Popular Science when I was a kid on how to use the materials in a car to survive. All I remember is the headliner and insulation from the roof and seat materials can make a makeshift coat, and the oil from the engine makes a great smoky fire to help rescuers find you.
When I was doing field work years ago, I always traveled with the kit you describe. In addition, I tossed a sleeping bag in the trunk, some canned food and a few cans of sterno. Luckily I never needed it.
I won't do the whole list, but my woman and/or children would always have sleeping bags and a supply of hand warmers to tear open and put inside the bag with them.
During winter I don't bother with blankets (except to put inside sleeping bags), it is toasty warmth, then water, food, light, etc.
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