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WWII vet: "We were the bulge"
Portage Daily Register ^
| 12-4-06
| Jen McCoy
Posted on 12/04/2006 5:28:30 PM PST by SJackson
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To: org.whodat
To be fair, the US Army that faced the Germans were green, untested soliders who were up against Veterans Whermacht troopers armed with the best equipment and Panzers that German could muster. Of course the American army buckled. But mainly it was the fact the US high command grew complacent and lax. They thought that the Whermacht was a beaten army and ready to surrender.
Patton saw it was coming and did organize plans for his advance. Patton saw it as a chance to destroy the Germans once and for all. He likened it having Germans placing thier necks in the meat grinder and he was ready to turn the handle.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:08:43 PM PST
by
Yorlik803
( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
To: SJackson
Well, it is Bush's fault.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:10:00 PM PST
by
neodad
(USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
To: ColdSteelTalon
I could not rust such a person next to me in a fox hole.Maybe you could not rust him, but time surely did, as it will us all.
To: org.whodat
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:11:52 PM PST
by
Thebaddog
(Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
To: SJackson
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I regret to this day (my service) and will to my last day. It took away five years of my life. I have more anger right now with the American Congress and White House then I was every angry about anything in my life." "I regret to this day...my service..." Interesting.
I've interviewed hundred of WWII vets and never heard that. Often one would hear "I regret having to do (such and such). I think this reporterett is playing with the gentleman's words.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:14:07 PM PST
by
investigateworld
(Abortion stops a beating heart)
To: SJackson
"...Blood rushes to his face when he speaks of the current Iraq war and the Bush administration. "They're a bunch of dirty draft dodgers running a phoney war...."
Sorry, Gramps. While your are entitled to your opinion, there is a reason most (but not all) military people are conservatives...John Kerry's latest flap and Rangel's stupidity show all too clearly how most liberals think.
I will give you credit for your service and leave it at that.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:16:57 PM PST
by
rlmorel
(Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
To: SJackson
I have know a few WWII and KNEW several more. Most relatives and their friends. Among them were liberal Democrats more conservative Democrats and to a man the Dims loved Bradley and hated Patton but the conservatives who hated Patton, still believed he was the best General in the ETO.
That being said of the THREE people this WWII Vet refers to as draft dodgers, two of them served.
Such is the power of the LEFTIST MSM. I have talked to much younger relatives and their friends who continually say the same think even after I point out who served and who didn't. They are referred to a DRAFT DODGERS and that is the way it is!!
Go figure!!
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:17:07 PM PST
by
PISANO
To: SJackson
If I didn't know better I would guess that some "pup" reporter helped the old man with his rememberences. But of course who is around to question his accounts....but they sound somewhat questionable to me...
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:18:01 PM PST
by
RVN Airplane Driver
("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..POW input)
To: org.whodat
I may not be completely right, but wasn't it the 28th that buckled and run under the first German advance.
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Buckled and ran? Just read about the 28th Division in Huertgen Forest in November. Then sent to "rest and recuperate" in the Ardennes in December.
Pray you never have two months like that in your life.
He wants to talk some trash, well, he and the rest of his division bought that right.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:18:21 PM PST
by
Cheburashka
(World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
To: Yorlik803
Wasn't what I said, history says the 28th buckled some threw down their rifles and ran, the 101 fell back but held. But you are right about the green troops.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:18:32 PM PST
by
org.whodat
(Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
To: The_Media_never_lie
My neighbor up the street Mr. Gass was at the battle of the Bulge.
For many years he never spoke of it. It sems as men get old they go back to those times with their memory's. he is a great old guy in a wheelchair now. He stated to me that he was a spotter for a sniper, He never mentioned not shooting at the enemy. While spotting he was hit by an explosive round , probably a mortar or artillery shell, Anyway it blew away most of his stomach.and he lay in the snow for hours until found, he gives the snow credit for his not bleeding to death. he spent 5 months in hospitals and returned home. His wife wont let him join the American Legion no matter how hard i try to recruit him, but he comes to our functions and was at the veterans day parade this year.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:19:52 PM PST
by
sgtbono2002
(The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
To: SJackson
"...I have more anger right now with the American Congress and White House then I was every angry about anything in my life..."
Interesting. Even more angry than he felt at seeing men starved like animals in Nazi concentration camps? Really? Gee, every veteran I have heard from who experienced the freshly liberated concentration camps kind of marks that experience as a high anger point in their life.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:20:59 PM PST
by
rlmorel
(Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
To: Cheburashka
Pray you never have two months like that in your life Well lets see, I'm a Vet. but you say I don't have a 1st amendment right to discuss history? Is that it?
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:21:20 PM PST
by
org.whodat
(Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
To: SkyPilot
I see that the author, Jen McCoy, decided to write a hit piece on Rumsfeld and G.W. Bush masquerading as story about WW II veterans. I wonder how many she interviewed before she got the story she was looking for...
To: cripplecreek
Sometimes people just live too long. Hents sounds like the man who revealed himself as "Deep Throat." Just an angry, bitter, slightly demented old man.
He wants those five years back? He never wanted to go into the service, and didn't until he was drafted in 1941. Most people who live as long as he are grateful for the years they've had, not angry over 5 lost in military service.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:29:13 PM PST
by
EDINVA
To: SJackson
I think this guy might be a fraud. Is there any way to verify if he ever served?
To: org.whodat
Well lets see, I'm a Vet. but you say I don't have a 1st amendment right to discuss history? Is that it?
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Well, let's see, I didn't say you didn't have a right to discuss history.
I did say pray you don't have two months like that in your life.
Don't try to put any words in my mouth I did not say.
And as a vet you may want to review the history of the 28th Infantry in those two months to make sure your assessment of the performance of your fellow vets is accurate.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:31:52 PM PST
by
Cheburashka
(World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
To: The_Media_never_lie
To: Treeless Branch
The author is a two bit writer for a small town backwoods paper. Consider the source.
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posted on
12/04/2006 6:34:25 PM PST
by
rlmorel
(Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
To: SJackson
"They're a bunch of dirty draft dodgers running a phoney war. I am proud of Washington up until Truman," Hentz said. "Omar Bradley was loved by every American soldier because he was looking out for the ordinary soldier. The ones who have no humanity is Rumsfeld, Bush and Cheney. I regret to this day (my service) and will to my last day. It took away five years of my life. I have more anger right now with the American Congress and White House then I was every angry about anything in my life." What a freaking hypocrit!
"I knew the draft was coming, but I was trying to stay out of it as long as I could," he said.
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