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Brownback Seeks 2008 Conservative Mantle
The Hill ^ | 12/5/06 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 12/05/2006 8:47:32 AM PST by meg88

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Sam needs to shore up his immigration views before he can be considered a serious conservative candidate, IMO.
1 posted on 12/05/2006 8:47:33 AM PST by meg88
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Sam is a very nice guy whom I will choose over my other current choices, but many things about him disturb me. He is a compassionate conservative. He believes it is the government's job to clean up the messes people make of their lives. I strongly disagree. That idea always leads to socialism, and it is a denial of the core of human nature -- a sin nature. It is because of that nature that we must build a true freedom that leaves a strong connection between sowing and reaping, or cause and effect if you like that terminology better.


2 posted on 12/05/2006 8:54:33 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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I agree with your views. Sam also makes a former Kansas Senator and presidential nominee look charismatic and exciting. He has about as much chance of being elected president as Hillary Clinton has of being elected Governor of Kansas.


3 posted on 12/05/2006 8:54:38 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

He lacks charisma.


4 posted on 12/05/2006 8:56:58 AM PST by Lonesome Rhodes
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Beats the heck out of Giuliani, Romney and McCain.


5 posted on 12/05/2006 8:57:06 AM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Actually he doesn't lack charisma. He is my senator so I know. As people see him they will discover a very humble, dear personality that is quite easy to like. He doesn't draw you in immediately, but only as you get to know him. It's not the charisma issue that bothers me.


6 posted on 12/05/2006 9:01:25 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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I think Sam is running mainly to be considered for veep, not a bad gamble if he doesn't get into too much debt!


7 posted on 12/05/2006 9:11:03 AM PST by meg88
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But not Duncan Hunter. Hunter is my congressman and is responsible for the border fence getting built in San Diego. Brownback is a open borders type in the McCain / Kennedy mold. Hunter is far better in the war on terror because he understands the importance of stopping terrorists at the border.


8 posted on 12/05/2006 9:13:32 AM PST by Howard Jarvis Admirer (Howard Jarvis, the foe of the tax collector and friend of the California homeowner)
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Don't you think the immigration issue will be lost in the next two years with the 'rats in Congress and Bush in the WH? I don't think the next Prez will have much opportunity for damage left. We will see.


9 posted on 12/05/2006 9:16:29 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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He is a compassionate conservative. He believes it is the government's job to clean up the messes people make of their lives. I strongly disagree. That idea always leads to socialism, and it is a denial of the core of human nature -- a sin nature. It is because of that nature that we must build a true freedom that leaves a strong connection between sowing and reaping, or cause and effect if you like that terminology better.

mega bump. Sorry Senator. If true, my vote's going elsewhere.

10 posted on 12/05/2006 9:17:21 AM PST by KantianBurke
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Brownback sounds like a hideous spider or a homosexual act.
And Vilsack sounds like a body part that could be involved in brownbacking.
The late night idiots will have a field day.


11 posted on 12/05/2006 9:18:02 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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The last Republican Senator elected directly to the Presidency was Warren G. Harding in 1920.

The odds are not good. Furthermore, I don't have enough data to suggest how well he would do against Hillary.

Regards, Ivan

12 posted on 12/05/2006 9:20:20 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Everyone keeps overlooking Hunter. I wouldn't be surprised to see him shoot to the top.


13 posted on 12/05/2006 9:22:01 AM PST by MattinNJ (The West has been fighting the war on terror for 1300 years.)
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If he does well in Iowa the big money will come.


14 posted on 12/05/2006 9:26:54 AM PST by meg88
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But not Duncan Hunter. Hunter is my congressman and is responsible for the border fence getting built in San Diego. Brownback is a open borders type in the McCain / Kennedy mold. Hunter is far better in the war on terror because he understands the importance of stopping terrorists at the border.

Hunter would have to win a statewide election first, although California is a great state to have a candidate from. I don't think anybody has been too serious about the Canadian border, which has been the main entry of choice for real terrorists. I would be happy to support Hunter if he gets the nomination, but I see his campaign going about as far as B-1 Bob Dornan's. His run for the presidency cost him his seat, and he had zero delegates to show for it.
15 posted on 12/05/2006 9:27:25 AM PST by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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If true, my vote's going elsewhere.

Me too if I get a better alternative. So far no. They all claim to be fiscally responsible, even the Democrats. But look at their records. They are all big spenders. They want to prove their own compassion and glorify themselves with your money and mine.

Brownback is better than the other alternatives at this point.

16 posted on 12/05/2006 9:28:35 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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I agree! I saw Brownback during a debate on stem-cell research at Harvard, and I was so impressed. He has a quiet personality, but definitely likable.

I will have a hard time choosing between him and Mitt, I think they'd make a great President-VP team...


17 posted on 12/05/2006 9:29:57 AM PST by RedSoxBatgirl
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Brownback sounds like a hideous spider or a homosexual act. And Vilsack sounds like a body part that could be involved in brownbacking. The late night idiots will have a field day.

Nah. They will be too busy having fun with Mr. Barak Hussein Obama-nation.

18 posted on 12/05/2006 9:30:39 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Brownback sounds like a hideous spider or a homosexual act.

LOL! That's exactly what I always thought!

If he runs, he'll lock up the critical FR Perpetually Pissed-Off Puritan vote. ;)

19 posted on 12/05/2006 9:30:58 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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I will have a hard time choosing between him and Mitt, I think they'd make a great President-VP team...

Not me. Mitt is a phony conservative. He was #8 on the top RINO list in 2005 as named in Human Events. Mitt is a social liberal who is good at verbal gymnastics. Brownback is at least honest. You can take what he says to the bank.

20 posted on 12/05/2006 9:33:13 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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