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Iraqi Christians plead for help from White House
WND ^ | December 5, 2006

Posted on 12/05/2006 11:40:17 AM PST by Kaslin

Demonstrators at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. tell of 'ethnic cleansing'

Faced with growing repression by Muslims, Christians from an ancient tradition in Iraq are calling on American political leaders for help before their entire community is extinguished.

Christian Assyrians and some of their supporters demonstrated in front of the White House yesterday, highlighting an alarming trend reported by the U.N.: While representing just 5 percent of the Iraqi population, 40 percent of the refugees fleeing the country are Assyrians.

One of the speakers at the rally, Nina Shea of Freedom House's Center for Religious Freedom in D.C., told WND that because of the "ethnic cleansing," the Christians want an autonomous district in Iraq they can administrate.

The zone, called the Nineveh Plains Administrative Unit, would allow Assyrians and other Christians to practice their faith, speak and teach their language, and work their land without fear of persecution.

Unlike the Sunnis and Shiites, the Christians have no militia and are completely defenseless, Shea said.

"They need to administrate their own governmental unit to protect themselves," she said. "Otherwise, with the chaos and violence and persecution targeting Christians for religious reasons, which the U.N. has documented, they will disappear.

Shea insisted it's in the interest of the U.S. to take a stand.

With the loss of the highly educated and skilled Christians, she argued, Iraq is "experiencing a brain drain as well as sane drain – a force of moderation and a bridge to the West."

"They have served the U.S. in Iraq nobly, and they will leave a real vacuum," said Shea.

While the Christians in Iraq have been repressed for decades, Shea pointed out, they have suffered more since the war began, with kidnappings, crucifixions and dozen of churches bombed by jihadist terror.

Among the atrocities documented this year:

Father Paulos Eskandar, of Mor Afrem Syriac Orthodox Church, was kidnapped Oct. 9 by Muslims and decapitated two days later. He was murdered despite Christians fulfilled a demand to post a text on the church doors condemning the pope's statement about Islam.

On Oct. 4, a car bomb detonated in a Christian area and killed nine people, including Georges Zara, member of the Assyrian Chaldean Syriac National Council.

A 14-year-old boy was crucified and stabbed in the stomach, mimicking what was done to Jesus, in Albasra.

On Oct. 21, in Baquba, a group of veiled Muslims attacked a workplace where a 14-year-old boy named Ayad Tariq worked. The men asked the boy for his identity card. After seeing he was Christian the men asked whether he was a "dirty Christian sinner." Ayad answered: "Yes, I am Christian, but I am not a sinner." The rebels yelled he was a dirty Christian sinner and continued to grab him and to scream, "Allahu, Akbar! Allahu, Akbar!" The boy then was decapitated.

In August, 13 Assyrian Christian women in Baghdad were kidnapped and murdered.

In January, churches were bombed in Basra and Baghdad.

Shea noted that the Kurds, who control the north, have been denying the Christian Assyrians many of the benefits that have come from U.S. largesse.

The electric grids created by the U.S., for example, are left to the discretion of local governments to distribute and manage, and the Christians say they aren't getting their fair share. They cite instances of Kurdish villages receiving electricity while neighboring Christian villages are denied service.

Shea said she has been raising the plight of the Iraqi Christians with the U.S. government for several years, including in a face-to-face meeting with President Bush in her role as a member of the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom.

She has not received a positive response.

"One of the issues here is that the Christians don't create trouble, they are just victims," she said. "They don't blow up things, so they don't get attention.

Some have told her the U.S. government doesn't want to establish a precedent of favoritism, by responding to special pleadings.

But Shea argues, "It's not favoring one group to make sure they get their fair share of U.S. construction aid.

The White House did not respond to WND's request for comment.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assyrians; bush; christian; christianassyrians; christianity; iraq; islam; muslims; religion; trop; wot

1 posted on 12/05/2006 11:40:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I'm so sick of muslims I'm getting a headache.


2 posted on 12/05/2006 11:42:35 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: samtheman
I'm so sick of muslims I'm getting a headache.

Me too
3 posted on 12/05/2006 11:46:26 AM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Kaslin

While we're at it, I'd like a district in Brooklyn where I don't have to suffer the non-assimilating foreigners.


4 posted on 12/05/2006 11:47:31 AM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: Kaslin

Very disturbing article.


5 posted on 12/05/2006 11:53:42 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Kaslin

Dictionary definition of Antichrist includes, "...a great antonist expected to fill the world with wickedness but to be conquered by Christ at his (sic) second coming."


6 posted on 12/05/2006 12:02:17 PM PST by Ilky Hucktar
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To: Mr. Mojo

That's what will be in store for what's left of the U.S. shortly -- my guess is some time around the year 2017. Geez, I hope they enjoy what they have created -- Frankenstein's Country.


7 posted on 12/05/2006 12:03:04 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Just think...almost 100% of the children aborted and almost 100% of the couples choosing not to have children in the USA and Europe are NOT Muslims.

Maybe we should be making love (and babies) and not war.


8 posted on 12/05/2006 12:14:21 PM PST by Bushwacker777
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To: All

Again, partition Iraq and Lebanon. Create a Christian Arab country in the south of Lebanon that borders Israel (yes all the Shia will have to move to the Iraqi Shia country whatever that is named) and be done with it. Yes it will be painful, yes there will be lots of people hurt, but there will be a lot more hurt or dead if we don't.

Guess what?
It will never happen because it makes too much sense and it is politically incorrect.


9 posted on 12/05/2006 12:27:11 PM PST by fatez
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To: Kaslin

Christians (generically, they could or could not be Christian) are also going from the Palestinian territories, especially since Hamas took control.


10 posted on 12/05/2006 12:28:39 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: Bushwacker777

I'd have given anything to have more than one, but it wasn't to be -- the one I have is a "miracle" and a gift beyond what I deserve. I have learned more about grace under fire from him than I ever thought any one could teach me or ever imagined I'd have to endure, much less his having to endure it.

He's not perfect (sometimes far from it), but he'll always be my hero because of what he's been though and what he's become. If I could have given the world a dozen more like him - warts and all -- I think it would be a better place.


11 posted on 12/05/2006 12:31:35 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Solamente

Nowadays I really don't think one exists in Brooklyn---I grew up there, my mother still lives there. The main language I hear on the streets is OTE (Other Than English).
BTW I think I would prefer 1 million Assyrian Christians in exchange for 1 millions illegal Mexicans (besides, there would still be 5/6 million illegal Mexicans still here anyway).


12 posted on 12/05/2006 12:41:26 PM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: Kaslin

Ethnic cleansing by any other name.


13 posted on 12/05/2006 12:45:55 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

In 1900 40% of the Palestinian population was Christian. That's way before Hamas---but they were still treated like dhimmis. The whole Maronite population in Lebanon would have been wiped out if the French didn't get involved in the 1860s or so. Christians have been boogeying out of Muslim esp. Arab countries, as fast as their backsides can carry them. Jesus is basically considered a nasty critter in Islamic lands even for all his staus as a prophet before Muhammad.


14 posted on 12/05/2006 12:47:00 PM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: Kaslin
""Yes, I am Christian, but I am not a sinner." The rebels yelled he was a dirty Christian sinner and continued to grab him and to scream, "Allahu, Akbar! Allahu, Akbar!" The boy then was decapitated."

Certainly was evil of the Allah-ites to do this, but why did the kid say he was not a sinner? Christian theology, including Assyrian, teaches that we are all sinners. Then again, how do we really know what the kid said, I'm sure there were no reporters there, and if there were, they would be even more religiously ignorant and botch the quote.

15 posted on 12/05/2006 12:50:15 PM PST by cookcounty (So is it "Dimmy Carter" or "Dhimmi Carter?")
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To: brooklyn dave
The BBC had an article about how Bethlehem was once predominantly Christian (in this or last century), but is now mainly Muslim due to a Christian (again, self-identified) exodus.

It is surprising that some of the groups of American Christians out there (you could call them fundamentalists, though that has sort of been tainted by islamic fundamentalism) haven't tried to immigrate at least to Bethlehem to keep it Christian, sort of a Christian settlement in the Palestinian territories.

16 posted on 12/05/2006 12:53:15 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: cookcounty

Indeed. All human creatures are sinners in need of a Savior. Christians have found [the only] one.


17 posted on 12/05/2006 12:54:27 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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To: cookcounty
...but why did the kid say he was not a sinner? Christian theology, including Assyrian, teaches that we are all sinners.


He was about to be beheaded. I know I wouldn't be thinking clearly in his situation.
18 posted on 12/05/2006 1:00:50 PM PST by Saveaplant_Eatavegan
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To: Kaslin

If these Christians have to depend on American politicians to save them, they are DOOMED. I don't see the President, even though he's a Christian, doing anything about this problem. Oh, they will have a "meeting" about it and "dialog" but that is all. Gee, why don't we just let the UN take care of this as that is their job. (smirking)


19 posted on 12/05/2006 1:01:52 PM PST by fish hawk (.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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20 posted on 12/05/2006 1:13:19 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: All

If anyone wants to help, a good way to start would be contacting your local church or diocese and make them aware of the situation the Assyrians are in right now. Together you can come up with ways to assist them. With it being the Christmas season, people are a lot more willing to donate their time and money to help those in need so it's the perfect opportunity to get started and find other volunteers.


21 posted on 12/05/2006 1:16:06 PM PST by Saveaplant_Eatavegan
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To: Kaslin

Muslim ethnic cleansing. Jews first, Christians second, Shiites / Sunnis (depending) third.


22 posted on 12/05/2006 1:18:04 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Crusades were indigenous peoples' counter-attacks against imperialist foreign Muslim invaders)
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To: Angelwood; Apple Blossom; BillF; bmwcyle; BufordP; Christopher Lincoln; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Ping. Prayers for the persecuted...


23 posted on 12/05/2006 1:33:28 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: fatez
While the Christians in Iraq have been repressed for decades, Shea pointed out, they have suffered more since the war began, with kidnappings, crucifixions and dozen of churches bombed by jihadist terror.

Oops sorry about that. Now I wonder. Why didn't they face this level of persecution before the invasion. Hmmmmm.....But, but...I bet they've all got a purple finger so that's okay I suppose.....

Again, partition Iraq and Lebanon

Yes, cause Lord knows partioning of existing land to create new nation states worked so well in 1918....wait a minute, where did Iraq's current borders come from again?

24 posted on 12/05/2006 1:39:25 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: brooklyn dave

*I would prefer 1 million Assyrian Christians in exchange for 1 millions illegal Mexicans*



You are so correct. Here in San Diego we have over 30,000 Iraqis, most are Chaldean (Christian) and are educated,work, etc.
We also have tens of thousands of illegal Mexans in San Diego. Work, education, HA! not when they are handed everything at tax payer expense and are not motivated to begin with.


25 posted on 12/05/2006 1:49:45 PM PST by SoCalPol (We Need A Border Fence Now)
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To: Kaslin

It's the Muslims' fault, but it's ours too. We opened this Pandora's Box, these people were in no special danger before we got there.


26 posted on 12/05/2006 1:55:22 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: cookcounty

I think God can forgive a 14-year-old for failing to give a theologically correct statement whilst being mobbed and murdered by members of the Religion of Peace.


27 posted on 12/05/2006 1:59:21 PM PST by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might)
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To: billbears
What's your point?

The British and the French did not take ethnicity or religion into account when they partitioned the first time which in my opinion was a huge mistake.

The reason that they did not face persecution under Saddam compared to know is that Saddam did not perceive them as a threat (in fact Tariq Aziz the former Foreign Minister for Iraq under Saddam is a Christian (at least nominally)).

You seem quick to point out the mistakes, so what is your solution to the endless sectarian and ethnic violence?
30 posted on 12/05/2006 2:11:45 PM PST by fatez
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To: Kaslin
Some have told her the U.S. government doesn't want to establish a precedent of favoritism, by responding to special pleadings.

I guess letting 9500 Muslims from Russia move to the US because of persecution in Russia wasn't establishing a precedent of favoritism!! With each passing day I am more disgusted with President Bush and some of his stupid policies. People are dying because of them. We should have allowed the Christians to move to America, instead of forcing them to stay where they will all surely be killed. At least they were safe when Saddam was in control.

31 posted on 12/05/2006 2:22:12 PM PST by NRA2BFree (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't!)
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To: Kaslin
Evacuate all of them to the U.S. as refugees and give them citizenship.

At least they're Christian. It would make a good addition to America's Arab community, a large majority of which are Christian. It would be the Arab equivalent of Cuban-Americans, some canaries to keep sounding the alarm of what Islamists do to any country they are in.
32 posted on 12/05/2006 2:28:44 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Kaslin

F**king Islamoanimals...


33 posted on 12/05/2006 2:40:04 PM PST by Gritty (I am not an infidel. I am not a traitor. I am a follower of Jesus Abdul Rahman, Afghani Christian)
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To: Bushwacker777
Maybe we should be making love (and babies) and not war.

See my tag line.

We have 11 children, two of them married so far.

We are Christian.

Eighth grandchild on the way.

.

34 posted on 12/05/2006 2:46:21 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: fatez
The British and the French did not take ethnicity or religion into account when they partitioned the first time which in my opinion was a huge mistake.

Ah I see. It's acceptable to break up a nation if you take into account all social aspects? Gotcha.

You seem quick to point out the mistakes, so what is your solution to the endless sectarian and ethnic violence?

Hmmmm, wait a second...oh I know the answer to this one. Stop interfering in the internal affairs of other nation states? If they want to hammer it out, let 'em. If they don't, that's their business. I can't wait until the next 'conservative' (probably Bush) recommends we get involved in Darfur. It's 'for the children' don't you know?

35 posted on 12/05/2006 3:09:42 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit
...we (US/UK) backed him against Iran for that very reason.

After which Saddam promptly spat in our faces by invading Kuwait, undertaking the development of chem/bio weapons, and beginning work on a nuclear weapon.

But, really, our biggest problem is that, with Saddam now deposed, we've got 50,000 wannabe Saddams running around loose, with easy access to weapons and willing cohorts, and we've NOT got the latitude our troops on the ground need to hunt them all down and kill them.

Southwesterners know, when you get too many rattlers, you call a hunt, and let folks that want to come in and wipe 'em out by the umpteen thousands. We've got to treat Iraq, er, correction -- we SHOULD HAVE treated -- the insurgent/jihadist infestation in Iraq in exactly the same way -- BEFORE we transferred control to the provisional government.

NOW, however, it's probably too late. Because we kow-towed to domesting morons and rushed the transfer of control, we very likely cannot achieve the goal of handing over a stable Iraq to an elected, democratic government.

We botched the job, franlky, by ranking the establishment of an Iraqi government ahead of completely stabilizing the country.

We continue to blow it by believing that we can, by pure virtue of excellent training, perform the Iraqi equivalent of building an interracial police force in Birmingham, Alabama, in 1866.

We ain't got the 'sand' to make it real.

We can ONLY ultimately win -- that is, give the Iraqi people a stable, free, democratic country -- if we put the present government on 'hold' and get down to big bad and tyrannical with every sand rat we find until they've all been bled into the dust. Brutal, violent annihilation is the only langaue these jihadi freaks understand, and our stupidity has been in mistaking THEM for people who a) ARE civilized or b) WANT to be civilized. They are neither, and as long as they exist, they will be an uncivilizing and destabilizing pox on the whole region. Without their being made to vanish, Iraq will never be either stable or free.

36 posted on 12/05/2006 3:11:43 PM PST by HKMk23 (PRO-LIFE: Because a Person's a Person, no matter how small.)
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To: cookcounty

>but why did the kid say he was not a sinner?<

Because he was a kid? A kid who tried to be good?

May he rest in the arms of the Lord.


37 posted on 12/05/2006 3:27:32 PM PST by Darnright
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is so sad. These Moslems are fanatics. Nobody mentions the once large Iraqui Jewish population which was forced to flee for its life.


38 posted on 12/05/2006 5:34:26 PM PST by juliej
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To: NRA2BFree

Nobody was safe under Saddam.


39 posted on 12/05/2006 5:36:18 PM PST by juliej
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To: cookcounty

All of what you said, plus, he was a 14 year old kid, not an expert on theology.

When asked if youre a dirty anything, the instinctive response of most teenagers is an antagonistic one.


40 posted on 12/05/2006 5:48:24 PM PST by ketelone
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To: Westbrook

Errrr... 11? All from one woman? How did she manage it?


41 posted on 12/05/2006 5:49:27 PM PST by ketelone
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To: ketelone

Some of them are adopted, but we know many families, especially among the Mennonites and Apostolic Lutherans who have 14 and more children.

All fom the same woman.

We know a Messianic (Christian Jews) family that has 15 children. All from the same woman.

But we need a lot more families like this.

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42 posted on 12/05/2006 5:58:21 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: billbears
So are you saying Iraq meets the true definition of a nation state? I don't. I think it was an artificial creation just like Yugoslavia or the Soviet Union; all held together by brute force; just like Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union. I don't think we have any business in Iraq but we are there now.

Again, what is your solution? Or do you just use sarcasm to sound like you have superior thinking? You seem to make insinuations about my thoughts that I do not think are accurate. What else do you know about me Billbears? Lastly,please state your position if you are going to satirize mine...otherwise you sound just like a democrat, all criticism and no plan.
43 posted on 12/05/2006 9:24:21 PM PST by fatez
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To: fatez
I think it was an artificial creation just like Yugoslavia or the Soviet Union; all held together by brute force; just like Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union.

Ah but Iraq was created by Western powers trying to 'fix' a situation in 1918. By your logic we should have let it devolved long ago. Note I don't necessarily disagree with this, but it shouldn't have been established in the first place should it? Some of the fallout from the first 'spreading democracy' foreign policy

I don't think we have any business in Iraq but we are there now.

Indeed. But 'fixing' one problem always leads to 'fixing' another, and another, and well you see where this leads.

Lastly,please state your position if you are going to satirize mine.

Don't feel special, I satirize most positions when it comes to Iraq. Especially the ones that state we (being the US) need to help another downtrodden group of people. I feel for the Christians. As a Christian myself, I know they need help from private organizations to be led to a point of safety. However that does not mean I advocate the State to ensure safety within another nation does it?

otherwise you sound just like a democrat, all criticism and no plan.

Plans were suggested long ago (well three+ years seems long ago now doesn't it?). They weren't listened to then and frankly I don't think they would work now. Unfortunately, contrary to solid conservative thought, the US must stabilize the Iraqi government to some extent. What that means however is who the Iraqis vote they get, whether we like the bastard or not. Maliki seems to lean to Iran, well too bad. That's what the Iraqis apparently wanted with their purple fingers isn't it? Let Maliki's government stabilize and get out.

The sad case however is that eventually the Iraqis will elect a theocratic government and draw ever closer to Iran over the next generation. But that's what we gave them isn't it? The freedom to choose their course. And when they do, there shouldn't be complaints coming from the either side of the aisle about going to 'fix' it again.

44 posted on 12/05/2006 10:07:48 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: brooklyn dave

Was in Park Slope recently - didn't seem too bad. Unfortunately it's also the home of your Senior Senator.


45 posted on 12/05/2006 10:08:02 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: billbears
I actually agree with your assessment. This is France's and Britain's mess from long ago. I do believe the Elder Bush was also in a no-win situation. Partitioning is easier said then done, I do understand that(note my first post that said a lot of hurt and death). I never believed in the pipe dream of democracy in the Middle East. I thought we would loose this war from the start (not because of the troops, but because we have an active 5th column in our country (and to take Iraq without taking Syria was just nuts (like the Syrians would just stand around doing nothing while we 'rebuild Iraq', that was very naive of the powers that be, however we could never have won world opinion on taking out Syria nor Congressional approval, so we should not have gone in at all))). But eventually Saddam would have gained some type of weapon and either used it himself or given to someone who would. A whole other mess.

I understand fixing one problem leads to making new ones (the law of unintended consequences) or leading to fixing others as you state. But by that logic, we should not have gone after Al Qaeda or stood up to NAZISM or Communism. In fact standing up to Communism is what helped create Al Qaeda as you probably well know. I want a homeland for the Christian Arabs, I will not get what I want, because nobody will seriously consider partitioning Iraq except the Iranians and the Syrians. Iraq will implode and those two countries will be there to absorb the pieces. The Kurds will be out once again (like Poland over the 300 years) and the Christians will be forced to emigrate, convert or die.

I would love to give the Kurds and the Christians the chance to fight for their own survival, that is why I would like to see a partition, but it will not happen. It is politically taboo here, but not in Damascus or Tehran...
46 posted on 12/05/2006 10:41:35 PM PST by fatez
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To: fatez

bump http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1748868/posts


47 posted on 12/08/2011 12:21:26 PM PST by fatez ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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