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Chavez helps leftist ally Argentina ward off Soros ( Confused ? )
Reuters ^ | Dec 5, 2006 | Alejandro Lifshitz

Posted on 12/05/2006 6:46:33 PM PST by george76

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Tuesday stepped in to help his leftist ally Argentine President Nestor Kirchner by bailing out an Argentine firm to prevent its purchase by a fund involving billionaire investor George Soros.

Chavez, whom Kirchner wished good luck before his landslide re-election on Sunday, said he would lend $80 million to Sancor, a struggling private cooperative dairy sought by Adecoagro, a fund in which currency speculator and philanthropist Soros has a stake.

"The capitalist magnate wanted to buy it out. Now I have signed the first part of the deal. We are going to issue credit of $80 million," Chavez told a news conference.

The move is a further sign of Chavez using his abundant oil earnings to forge an alliance of leftist leaders across Latin America, fighting what he sees as the evils of capitalism.

Chavez said an unspecified portion of the loan would be repaid in milk powder and advice on designing dairies -- in line with his other regional deals.

Venezuela already sells discounted oil to Argentina...

(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: argentina; caracas; chavez; energy; georgesoros; hugo; hugochavez; kirchner; latinamerica; nestorkirchner; oil; soros; venezuela

1 posted on 12/05/2006 6:46:37 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

It's stuff like this that make me wish oil would just become obsolete already!


2 posted on 12/05/2006 6:47:57 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: george76

I wish Soros would take a trip to Venezuela.


3 posted on 12/05/2006 6:51:03 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: george76
Chavez said an unspecified portion of the loan would be repaid in milk powder and advice on designing dairies

Modern finance baffles me.

4 posted on 12/05/2006 6:51:25 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: FreeKeys; proud_yank; nutmeg

5 posted on 12/05/2006 6:51:31 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: the anti-liberal

He needs us a lot more than we need him.


6 posted on 12/05/2006 6:52:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: humblegunner; jan in Colorado
LOL

advice on designing dairies ...?

7 posted on 12/05/2006 6:52:38 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: cripplecreek

If only we used that leverage.


8 posted on 12/05/2006 6:57:51 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: george76

A use for Chavez: maybe he can help us ward off Soros.


9 posted on 12/05/2006 6:59:58 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: the anti-liberal

Very few countries in the world are willing or able to refine Venezuelan oil due to the high sulfur content. We're their biggest buyer and we have the leverage if we're willing to use it. I'm willing to pay a bit more at the pump if it means Hugo has to suffer a bit.


10 posted on 12/05/2006 7:01:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: cripplecreek
I haven't been paying attention but, have folks (smart folks, that is) continued to boycott Citgo and its derivatives or partners?
11 posted on 12/05/2006 7:03:57 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: george76

If Chavez is against george Soros he cant be all bad.


12 posted on 12/05/2006 7:22:06 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: george76

Cheer for both sides to have a protracted and extremely costly fight. By the way, how does the Venezuelan budget work? Do they just keep an account for Hugo to dip into whenever he feels the need to show off for his pals?


13 posted on 12/05/2006 7:30:43 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Iraq: the next country Liberals want to abandon just before Israel.)
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To: george76
Despite all the hateful rhetoric spouted by Chavez, the bottom line is in the World Factbook listing Venezuela's chief trade partners:
Exports - partners: US 51.2%, Netherlands Antilles 7.3%, Canada 2.4% (2005)

Imports - partners: US 31.6%, Colombia 11%, Brazil 9.1%, Mexico 6.9% (2005)
14 posted on 12/05/2006 7:31:46 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: george76

Soros backed the "other guy" in the latest election.


15 posted on 12/05/2006 7:43:27 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: elhombrelibre
LOL

Cheer for both sides to have a protracted and extremely costly fight...

16 posted on 12/05/2006 7:55:07 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: fight_truth_decay
That would explain it.

Thanks

Soros backed the "other guy" in the latest election.

17 posted on 12/05/2006 7:56:08 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Joseph P. Kennedy II beneath a Venezuelan flag.

Kennedy characterizes his complicity with Chavez's anti-US propaganda gimmick as "morally righteous." Falling back on the relativism that has replaced the notion of right and wrong in liberal minds, allowing them to excuse any abomination, he dismisses concern for Chavez's totalitarian tendencies by smirking that there has been "ample room for improvement in the ways that people get elected in Venezuela as well as in Florida."

18 posted on 12/05/2006 8:13:51 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: sgtbono2002

I agree with you. Chavez is a pretty idiotic guy, but he's a pipsqueek of evil compared to Soros.

If one is looking for an anti-Christ then Soros will do until someone better comes along.


19 posted on 12/05/2006 8:27:38 PM PST by Seruzawa (Marx's Das Kapital never could compete with the Sears catalog.)
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To: cripplecreek
He needs us a lot more than we need him.

I'd sure like to know a couple of sure fire ways to visit real hardship on that SOB.

20 posted on 12/05/2006 8:35:59 PM PST by Rate_Determining_Step (It's in the Koran! Submit or Die)
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To: cripplecreek
Very few countries in the world are willing or able to refine Venezuelan oil due to the high sulfur content. We're their biggest buyer and we have the leverage if we're willing to use it. I'm willing to pay a bit more at the pump if it means Hugo has to suffer a bit.

If we'd stop listening to the Godforsaken environmentalist we could suck enough out of the ground beneath us to replace Chavez's stolen slop.
21 posted on 12/05/2006 8:39:35 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun
Remember when 'insurgents' kept blowing up oil pipelines in Iraq near the beginning of the rebuild-phase?

I can imagine 'radical environmentalists' doing likewise here if we went full ahead on drilling in Alaska and etc.

22 posted on 12/05/2006 8:48:54 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: george76

Great picture.

Hugo says, "I wish all Americans were as gullible as you, Jimmy."


23 posted on 12/05/2006 8:51:32 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: Rocky

I am sure that Hugo thinks that most Americans are stupid like Jimmah'...


24 posted on 12/05/2006 8:54:54 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Remember, he met with Sheehan, so of course he thinks that!


25 posted on 12/05/2006 8:56:44 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: the anti-liberal
I can imagine 'radical environmentalists' doing likewise here if we went full ahead on drilling in Alaska and etc.

That isn't a stretch. They chain themselves to trees (as renewable as you can get) and have burnt down houses, forest, and vehicles in the name of progress regression. Idiots. If they'd dare look at their Communist roots and admit how asinine the whole idea is we'd be living in a different world.

My question is: "Why do we listen to them?" If we can answer that, and correct it, we can eliminate a lot of the liberal problem.
26 posted on 12/05/2006 9:11:38 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun
"My question is: "Why do we listen to them?" If we can answer that, and correct it, we can eliminate a lot of the liberal problem."

Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with the liberal influence of public opinion in: newspapers, television shows, music and PACs.

That entire structure has to be infiltrated from within via the planting of 'memes' and other emotively persuasive and 'mainstreamed' thoughts. Among other things.

27 posted on 12/05/2006 9:38:00 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: george76

Jimmy and Hugo - two heavy crudes that can't be refined, with a lot of associated gas


28 posted on 12/05/2006 9:45:15 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor, and still unable to stay in business)
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To: the anti-liberal
Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with the liberal influence of public opinion in: newspapers, television shows, music and PACs.

That entire structure has to be infiltrated from within via the planting of 'memes' and other emotively persuasive and 'mainstreamed' thoughts. Among other things.


And these aren't things that happen quickly. I'm willing to stay the course. Their ignorance will expose them - if it doesn't kill us first.
29 posted on 12/05/2006 9:57:54 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun
"Their ignorance will expose them - if it doesn't kill us first."

Therein lies the rub; how much pain must we endure before we begin to recover?

I suspect it will take place more quickly then we imagine it'll take; liberals tend to be very 'fad' oriented, with short attention spans and short term vision, and without much self-control (control of themselves, individually and collectively - whim takes them).

30 posted on 12/05/2006 10:34:07 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: Rocky
LOL.

Jimmy and Hugo - two heavy crudes that can't be refined, with a lot of associated gas

31 posted on 12/06/2006 6:06:21 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

"The move is a further sign of Chavez using his abundant oil earnings to forge an alliance of leftist leaders across Latin America, fighting what he sees as the evils of capitalism."
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lol, his oil wealth only exists because of capitalism... :)


32 posted on 12/06/2006 1:09:11 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/optimism_nov8th.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Without capitalism and capitalist workers, their oil will remain in the ground.

Never mind the people and ships to move the oil...


He is a POS.


33 posted on 12/06/2006 2:45:58 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: the anti-liberal
I suspect it will take place more quickly then we imagine it'll take; liberals tend to be very 'fad' oriented, with short attention spans and short term vision, and without much self-control (control of themselves, individually and collectively - whim takes them).

Let us hope, though I'm not sure that history supports your assertion.
34 posted on 12/06/2006 8:39:53 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: Jaysun

We are at a unique point in history.


35 posted on 12/07/2006 12:36:29 PM PST by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: the anti-liberal
We are at a unique point in history.

Yes we are. Half the populace is actively working to undermine their own country. Bizarre.
36 posted on 12/07/2006 2:55:11 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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To: george76

Soros wants a unified world government with soft socialism (AKA Soros wants to keep his money). Chavez, Putin, and Jintao want hard socialism.


37 posted on 12/08/2006 12:39:34 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Seruzawa

Soros is widely hated by just about everyone. His companies are not allowed into China, because Soros backed overthrowing the Chinese government. However, half of the stuff Soros did backfired (See Poland). Soros wants a Soft Socialist (Almost EU Type)world government as I stated in my last post, while guys like Chavez, Jintao, and Putin want what I call "Strong socialism".


38 posted on 12/08/2006 12:43:21 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: cripplecreek

Fine with me. We don't buy that much from Venezuela anyway.


39 posted on 12/08/2006 1:16:27 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Whatever amount of oil we've been buying would be sold in large part to China if we don't buy it.


40 posted on 12/08/2006 1:19:30 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: sgtbono2002
If Chavez is against george Soros he cant be all bad.

Which "he?"

41 posted on 12/08/2006 1:22:44 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Jaysun

Huh? They environazis admit they're socialists, and some even admit that they're commies. It isn't a surprise to them. They know it and are proud of it.

It's not "us" listening to them. They have infiltrated every branch of government and control a lot of departments and a meaningful portion of the judiciary. They have a powerful, well-funded lobby and they get a lot of what they want. Now that the rats are taking over, probably for another forty years, they'll most likely get the rest of what they want.


42 posted on 12/08/2006 1:23:16 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Rocky

LOL! :>


43 posted on 12/08/2006 1:23:55 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: the anti-liberal

Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Look at how far they've come in the last forty years.


44 posted on 12/08/2006 1:25:01 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle
Huh? They environazis admit they're socialists, and some even admit that they're commies. It isn't a surprise to them. They know it and are proud of it.

It's not "us" listening to them. They have infiltrated every branch of government and control a lot of departments and a meaningful portion of the judiciary. They have a powerful, well-funded lobby and they get a lot of what they want. Now that the rats are taking over, probably for another forty years, they'll most likely get the rest of what they want.


You're right. I guess I was talking about the common Joe. Many people eat their crap right up. Organic food, global warming, rain forest, endangered animals, etc.
45 posted on 12/08/2006 3:07:37 PM PST by Jaysun (Let's not ruin this moment with words.)
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