Chavez helps leftist ally Argentina ward off Soros ( Confused ? )

Reuters ^ | Dec 5, 2006 | Alejandro Lifshitz

[george76]

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Tuesday stepped in to help his leftist ally Argentine President Nestor Kirchner by bailing out an Argentine firm to prevent its purchase by a fund involving billionaire investor George Soros.

Chavez, whom Kirchner wished good luck before his landslide re-election on Sunday, said he would lend $80 million to Sancor, a struggling private cooperative dairy sought by Adecoagro, a fund in which currency speculator and philanthropist Soros has a stake.

"The capitalist magnate wanted to buy it out. Now I have signed the first part of the deal. We are going to issue credit of $80 million," Chavez told a news conference.

The move is a further sign of Chavez using his abundant oil earnings to forge an alliance of leftist leaders across Latin America, fighting what he sees as the evils of capitalism.

Chavez said an unspecified portion of the loan would be repaid in milk powder and advice on designing dairies -- in line with his other regional deals.

Venezuela already sells discounted oil to Argentina...

[the anti-liberal]

It's stuff like this that make me wish oil would just become obsolete already!

[Paleo Conservative]

I wish Soros would take a trip to Venezuela.

[humblegunner]

Chavez said an unspecified portion of the loan would be repaid in milk powder and advice on designing dairies

Modern finance baffles me.

[george76]

[cripplecreek]

He needs us a lot more than we need him.

[george76]

LOL

advice on designing dairies ...?

[the anti-liberal]

If only we used that leverage.

[popdonnelly]

A use for Chavez: maybe he can help us ward off Soros.

[cripplecreek]

Very few countries in the world are willing or able to refine Venezuelan oil due to the high sulfur content. We're their biggest buyer and we have the leverage if we're willing to use it. I'm willing to pay a bit more at the pump if it means Hugo has to suffer a bit.

[the anti-liberal]

I haven't been paying attention but, have folks (smart folks, that is) continued to boycott Citgo and its derivatives or partners?

[sgtbono2002]

If Chavez is against george Soros he cant be all bad.

[elhombrelibre]

Cheer for both sides to have a protracted and extremely costly fight. By the way, how does the Venezuelan budget work? Do they just keep an account for Hugo to dip into whenever he feels the need to show off for his pals?

[Brad from Tennessee]

Despite all the hateful rhetoric spouted by Chavez, the bottom line is in the World Factbook listing Venezuela's chief trade partners:
Exports - partners: US 51.2%, Netherlands Antilles 7.3%, Canada 2.4% (2005)

Imports - partners: US 31.6%, Colombia 11%, Brazil 9.1%, Mexico 6.9% (2005)

[fight_truth_decay]

Soros backed the "other guy" in the latest election.

[george76]

LOL

Cheer for both sides to have a protracted and extremely costly fight...

[george76]

That would explain it.

Thanks

Soros backed the "other guy" in the latest election.

[fight_truth_decay]

Joseph P. Kennedy II beneath a Venezuelan flag.

Kennedy characterizes his complicity with Chavez's anti-US propaganda gimmick as "morally righteous." Falling back on the relativism that has replaced the notion of right and wrong in liberal minds, allowing them to excuse any abomination, he dismisses concern for Chavez's totalitarian tendencies by smirking that there has been "ample room for improvement in the ways that people get elected in Venezuela as well as in Florida."

[Seruzawa]

I agree with you. Chavez is a pretty idiotic guy, but he's a pipsqueek of evil compared to Soros.

If one is looking for an anti-Christ then Soros will do until someone better comes along.

[Rate_Determining_Step]

He needs us a lot more than we need him.

I'd sure like to know a couple of sure fire ways to visit real hardship on that SOB.

[Jaysun]

Very few countries in the world are willing or able to refine Venezuelan oil due to the high sulfur content. We're their biggest buyer and we have the leverage if we're willing to use it. I'm willing to pay a bit more at the pump if it means Hugo has to suffer a bit.

If we'd stop listening to the Godforsaken environmentalist we could suck enough out of the ground beneath us to replace Chavez's stolen slop.

[the anti-liberal]

Remember when 'insurgents' kept blowing up oil pipelines in Iraq near the beginning of the rebuild-phase?

I can imagine 'radical environmentalists' doing likewise here if we went full ahead on drilling in Alaska and etc.

[Rocky]

Great picture.

Hugo says, "I wish all Americans were as gullible as you, Jimmy."

[george76]

I am sure that Hugo thinks that most Americans are stupid like Jimmah'...

[the anti-liberal]

Remember, he met with Sheehan, so of course he thinks that!

[Jaysun]

I can imagine 'radical environmentalists' doing likewise here if we went full ahead on drilling in Alaska and etc.

That isn't a stretch. They chain themselves to trees (as renewable as you can get) and have burnt down houses, forest, and vehicles in the name of progress regression. Idiots. If they'd dare look at their Communist roots and admit how asinine the whole idea is we'd be living in a different world.

My question is: "Why do we listen to them?" If we can answer that, and correct it, we can eliminate a lot of the liberal problem.

[the anti-liberal]

"My question is: "Why do we listen to them?" If we can answer that, and correct it, we can eliminate a lot of the liberal problem."

Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with the liberal influence of public opinion in: newspapers, television shows, music and PACs.

That entire structure has to be infiltrated from within via the planting of 'memes' and other emotively persuasive and 'mainstreamed' thoughts. Among other things.

[Rocky]

Jimmy and Hugo - two heavy crudes that can't be refined, with a lot of associated gas

[Jaysun]

Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with the liberal influence of public opinion in: newspapers, television shows, music and PACs.

That entire structure has to be infiltrated from within via the planting of 'memes' and other emotively persuasive and 'mainstreamed' thoughts. Among other things.

And these aren't things that happen quickly. I'm willing to stay the course. Their ignorance will expose them - if it doesn't kill us first.

[the anti-liberal]

"Their ignorance will expose them - if it doesn't kill us first."

Therein lies the rub; how much pain must we endure before we begin to recover?

I suspect it will take place more quickly then we imagine it'll take; liberals tend to be very 'fad' oriented, with short attention spans and short term vision, and without much self-control (control of themselves, individually and collectively - whim takes them).

[george76]

LOL.

Jimmy and Hugo - two heavy crudes that can't be refined, with a lot of associated gas

[traviskicks]

"The move is a further sign of Chavez using his abundant oil earnings to forge an alliance of leftist leaders across Latin America, fighting what he sees as the evils of capitalism."
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lol, his oil wealth only exists because of capitalism... :)

[george76]

Without capitalism and capitalist workers, their oil will remain in the ground.

Never mind the people and ships to move the oil...


He is a POS.

[Jaysun]

I suspect it will take place more quickly then we imagine it'll take; liberals tend to be very 'fad' oriented, with short attention spans and short term vision, and without much self-control (control of themselves, individually and collectively - whim takes them).

Let us hope, though I'm not sure that history supports your assertion.

[the anti-liberal]

We are at a unique point in history.

[Jaysun]

We are at a unique point in history.

Yes we are. Half the populace is actively working to undermine their own country. Bizarre.

[Thunder90]

Soros wants a unified world government with soft socialism (AKA Soros wants to keep his money). Chavez, Putin, and Jintao want hard socialism.

[Thunder90]

Soros is widely hated by just about everyone. His companies are not allowed into China, because Soros backed overthrowing the Chinese government. However, half of the stuff Soros did backfired (See Poland). Soros wants a Soft Socialist (Almost EU Type)world government as I stated in my last post, while guys like Chavez, Jintao, and Putin want what I call "Strong socialism".

[Jezebelle]

Fine with me. We don't buy that much from Venezuela anyway.

[Jezebelle]

Whatever amount of oil we've been buying would be sold in large part to China if we don't buy it.

[ReignOfError]

If Chavez is against george Soros he cant be all bad.

Which "he?"

[Jezebelle]

Huh? They environazis admit they're socialists, and some even admit that they're commies. It isn't a surprise to them. They know it and are proud of it.

It's not "us" listening to them. They have infiltrated every branch of government and control a lot of departments and a meaningful portion of the judiciary. They have a powerful, well-funded lobby and they get a lot of what they want. Now that the rats are taking over, probably for another forty years, they'll most likely get the rest of what they want.

[Jezebelle]

LOL! :>

[Jezebelle]

Wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Look at how far they've come in the last forty years.

[Jaysun]

Huh? They environazis admit they're socialists, and some even admit that they're commies. It isn't a surprise to them. They know it and are proud of it.

It's not "us" listening to them. They have infiltrated every branch of government and control a lot of departments and a meaningful portion of the judiciary. They have a powerful, well-funded lobby and they get a lot of what they want. Now that the rats are taking over, probably for another forty years, they'll most likely get the rest of what they want.

You're right. I guess I was talking about the common Joe. Many people eat their crap right up. Organic food, global warming, rain forest, endangered animals, etc.