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Teens Face Charges In Virgin Mary Statue Beheading
hePittsburghChannel ^ | November 28, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 10:35:42 AM PST by presidio9

BEAVER COUNTY, Pa. -- New Brighton police are charging teenagers with vandalism at a Beaver County church after authorities said the teens took a pipe and hit the head off the Virgin Mary statue at the Holy Family Church on Thanksgiving.

Police said the teens admitted they were planning on burning the statue with gasoline but were scared off when neighbors saw them.

All are facing numerous charges.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: anticatholicism; hatecrimes; theblessedmother; thuggery; yaysecularization

1 posted on 12/06/2006 10:35:43 AM PST by presidio9
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To: presidio9

Hope these thugs get some prison time.


2 posted on 12/06/2006 10:37:22 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: wideawake; NYer; Salvation; Coleus; Siobhan; Matthew Paul; Salve Regina

Ping.

3 posted on 12/06/2006 10:37:46 AM PST by presidio9 (Tagline Censored)
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To: presidio9

What a lovely way to spend Thanksgiving . . .


4 posted on 12/06/2006 10:37:55 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: presidio9

I'd be curious to know the names and ethnicity of these "teens".


5 posted on 12/06/2006 10:38:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The way that you wander is the way that you choose. The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.)
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To: presidio9

I'm offended.


6 posted on 12/06/2006 10:38:48 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: presidio9
Were they:

(1) Satanist lunatics?

(2) Muslim lunatics?

(3) Heretic lunatics?

(4) Or simply stupid vandals?

The level of viciousness displayed here suggests that 4 does not apply and that there is more to the story.

7 posted on 12/06/2006 10:39:00 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Hope these thugs get some prison time.

I'd like to see them sentenced to some serious time assisting Catholic charities in their mission to aid the poor and infirm. Let them learn what it was they so foolishly attacked.

8 posted on 12/06/2006 10:40:33 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: presidio9
Teens or not, they should've known better.
9 posted on 12/06/2006 10:40:59 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Hope these thugs get some prison time.

Even if the overt display of religious symbols offended them?

10 posted on 12/06/2006 10:42:21 AM PST by presidio9 (Tagline Censored)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Why should vandalism and destruction of personal property result in prison?


11 posted on 12/06/2006 10:42:30 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: b4its2late

unless they are muzzies


12 posted on 12/06/2006 10:42:57 AM PST by himno hero
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To: presidio9

I suppose this is not a hate crime because it's merely an attack on a Christian religion figure.


13 posted on 12/06/2006 10:43:15 AM PST by giznort
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To: wideawake
The level of viciousness displayed here suggests that 4 does not apply and that there is more to the story.

I think maybe they were just dumb clucks duped into hating the church by liberals at their schools and in the media. It's cool to hate those who believe these days.

14 posted on 12/06/2006 10:43:34 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: wideawake

Agreed that "stupid vandals" are generally too lazy to bring gasoline to a Church to torch a statue. If it was a cross instead of the Blessed Mother we could charge these a-holes with a "hate crime."


15 posted on 12/06/2006 10:44:00 AM PST by presidio9 (Tagline Censored)
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To: presidio9

Wonder what other activities these hoodlums have been up to? Any neighborhood pets missing, any uncaught arsonists on the loose, any vandalism? Keep an eye on these sickos they sound like sociopaths in training.


16 posted on 12/06/2006 10:44:31 AM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: presidio9

Had they been more clever, they would have obtained an NEA grant to dumpt the severed head in a jar of urine and call it art.


17 posted on 12/06/2006 10:44:55 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Why shouldn't it?
18 posted on 12/06/2006 10:46:23 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: himno hero; All

I doubt they were Muslim. Beaver County PA isn't exactly a Muslim stronghold, at least not that I'm aware.


19 posted on 12/06/2006 10:46:24 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: presidio9

10 to 1 their parents are big libs and they'll have ACLU lawyers.


20 posted on 12/06/2006 10:47:02 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: FourtySeven

If they were Muslime, they likely wouldn't be charged, beheading is part of their religion, and we wouldn't want to interfere with their free expression.


21 posted on 12/06/2006 10:49:24 AM PST by magslinger (When Law enforcement enforce idiotic Laws of Bad Politicians there are no good guys.-Phantom Patriot)
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To: magslinger

sad but twistedly true


22 posted on 12/06/2006 10:54:57 AM PST by himno hero
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To: presidio9
"Teens Face Charges In Virgin Mary Statue Beheading"

If this were a mosque or a Temple the FBI would be investigating it as a 'hate crime'. As it is, they consider the beheading of a statue of Our Lord's Blessed Mother to be mere 'vandalism'. Crimes against Christians aren't fueled by hate, our anti-Christian government seems to be saying. Even though the criminals were planning to burn the statue, on Church property, after beheading it, it's just petty vandalism.

23 posted on 12/06/2006 10:55:26 AM PST by TheCrusader
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To: grobdriver
re: your post, Sadly, most likely true.

re: your tagline, LOL, great idea.

re: your Freepname, Grob, or ãðîá, when spelled in Russian, means a coffin.

24 posted on 12/06/2006 10:56:42 AM PST by magslinger (When Law enforcement enforce idiotic Laws of Bad Politicians there are no good guys.-Phantom Patriot)
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To: wideawake; Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Sometimes, good sarcasm is wasted.

FMCDH(BITS)

25 posted on 12/06/2006 10:57:36 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: presidio9

We should not condemn them just because they have become symbols of where America in going.


26 posted on 12/06/2006 11:01:04 AM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: wideawake

They were stupid kids. You see otherwise because when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.


27 posted on 12/06/2006 11:09:49 AM PST by Gerfang
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To: FormerACLUmember
Hope these thugs get some prison time.

Not a chance, the Judge will not want to "ruin their whole life". Personally I would give them 10 years if their parents buy a brand new statue, and 20 years if they dont.

28 posted on 12/06/2006 11:13:56 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Gerfang
You see otherwise because when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Knocking the head off a statue as an idiotic spur of the moment thing is one matter - planning to return and immolate the statue is really bizarre.

29 posted on 12/06/2006 11:17:09 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: TheCrusader

It’s an odious crime, and if appropriate should be prosecuted as a hate crime. Most hate crimes btw are committed by stupid kids with too much time on their hands and surly attitudes. Find them (which shouldn’t bee too hard), arrest them, and make them pay for the damages picking up litter by the side of the rode, at 25 cents / hour. That’ll learn ‘em.


30 posted on 12/06/2006 11:20:38 AM PST by Gerfang
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
Why should vandalism and destruction of personal property result in prison?

LOL! Yeah, hell, let's just make it legal. Then we'll make defending one's property with violence illegal.

31 posted on 12/06/2006 11:22:07 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: TheCrusader
If this were a mosque or a Temple the FBI would be investigating it as a 'hate crime'.

Or a black Church....
33 posted on 12/06/2006 11:28:00 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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How is it to go through life with minimal brain activity?

Why don't you draw on your personal experience and tell us?
34 posted on 12/06/2006 11:30:02 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: presidio9
Imagine if teens did this in an Islamic country to a statue of Mohammad...oh wait, it is death to even make a statue of Mohammad.

But here in the USA, teens are free to deface sacred things and burn our flag and say the foulest slanders. They will probably get probation and a fine, instead of having their heads chopped off. Is this a great country or what?

35 posted on 12/06/2006 11:31:15 AM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: presidio9

An Eye for an eye?


36 posted on 12/06/2006 11:38:03 AM PST by F-117A (Hey, Borat! Come talk to these "people"!)
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To: magslinger
re: your Freepname, Grob, or ãðîá, when spelled in Russian, means a coffin

LOL!
Good thing I'm an American and my language is English!

But kidding aside, the Grob109B Motorglider is no coffin - unless I screw up.

37 posted on 12/06/2006 11:39:31 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: wideawake

I could be wrong and I’m no shrink, but in my experience kids who do this are angry at the world and want to hurt as many people as they can. Defacing someone’s religious icon is a pretty good way to do just that – certainly got a rise outta you. Since it was a group, I’d guess that one of the kids was the ring leader and the others followed along because of peer pressure. I’d bet money that at least one of the kids has some relation with the church – perhaps a member or a student at a nearby Catholic school.

That doesn’t lessen the severity of the crime. Those kids need to be taught a lesson and that lesson should involve a great deal of pain. A couple hundred hours working alongside the road in orange pajamas outta do the trick.

What caught my attention was that you immediately assumed it was the work of religious extremists. Why would you do that? Surely you’ve read dozens of similar stories over the years. Ask yourself what sort of person has usually been responsible?

And if it’s a hate crime, by all means prosecute it as such.


38 posted on 12/06/2006 11:42:42 AM PST by Gerfang
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To: grobdriver

I got that factoid when I checked wiki to find out WITH a Grob was. I figured it was something with wings, but I wanted to know.


39 posted on 12/06/2006 11:44:06 AM PST by magslinger (When Law enforcement enforce idiotic Laws of Bad Politicians there are no good guys.-Phantom Patriot)
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To: Gerfang
Surely you’ve read dozens of similar stories over the years. Ask yourself what sort of person has usually been responsible?

Of late, ideological extremists. Like the Muslim who defaced a church of southern CA a couple of years back. Or the Jamaican Protestant who vandalized a series of churches in Brooklyn a couple of years ago. Or the Protestants who defaced a church in AL last year. Or the racist Satanists who destroyed my parish's statue of the Virgin a year and a half ago.

The ones at my parish were teenagers, but they were also members of a neo-Nazi group who targeted the church in part because they hated Christianity as a "Jew-based" relgion and because they also hated Mexicans who tend to be Catholic.

Again, returning to the scene in order to try and torch the remains of the statue you desecrated represents pretty serious animus.

40 posted on 12/06/2006 11:50:04 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: presidio9

Teens, eh? Vandals who are joined mentally to the thugs who burn cars in the Paris suburbs?


41 posted on 12/06/2006 12:02:08 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (jihadism is a mental illness, but liberals won't admit it because of their own mental shortcomings)
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To: presidio9

Where are the HATE CRIME enthusiasts? If this had been a Muslim object it would be front page news in the NY Times.


42 posted on 12/06/2006 12:24:13 PM PST by carrier-aviator
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To: Gerfang
Find them (which shouldn’t bee too hard)

According to the story, they already did.

43 posted on 12/06/2006 12:26:38 PM PST by presidio9 (Tagline Censored)
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To: wideawake
Again, returning to the scene in order to try and torch the remains of the statue you desecrated represents pretty serious animus.

I didn't read it that way (it's admittedly ambiguous). I read it as they were planning on setting it afire, but instead gave it a whack on the head and ran off.

And I'd bet anyone this is just dumb kids, not any great anti-Christian plot.

44 posted on 12/06/2006 12:30:06 PM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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