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Baker wants Israel excluded from regional conference
Insight Magazine ^ | December 5, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

The White House has been examining a proposal by James Baker to launch a Middle East peace effort without Israel.

The peace effort would begin with a U.S.-organized conference, dubbed Madrid-2, and contain such U.S. adversaries as Iran and Syria. Officials said Madrid-2 would be promoted as a forum to discuss Iraq's future, but actually focus on Arab demands for Israel to withdraw from territories captured in the 1967 war. They said Israel would not be invited to the conference.

“As Baker sees this, the conference would provide a unique opportunity for the United States to strike a deal without Jewish pressure,” an official said. “This has become the most hottest proposal examined by the foreign policy people over the last month.”

Officials said Mr. Baker's proposal, reflected in the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group, has been supported by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns and National Intelligence Director John Negroponte. The most controversial element in the proposal, they said, was Mr. Baker's recommendation for the United States to woo Iran and Syria.

“Here is Syria, which is clearly putting pressure on the Lebanese democracy, is a supporter of terror, is both provisioning and supporting Hezbollah and facilitating Iran in its efforts to support Hezbollah, is supporting the activities of Hamas," National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley told a briefing last week. "This is not a Syria that is on an agenda to bring peace and stability to the region."

Officials said the Baker proposal to exclude Israel from a Middle East peace conference garnered support in the wake of Vice President Dick Cheney's visit to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 25. They said Mr. Cheney spent most of his meetings listening to Saudi warnings that Israel, rather than Iran, is the leading cause of instability in the Middle East.

“He [Cheney] didn't even get the opportunity to seriously discuss the purpose of his visit—that the Saudis help the Iraqi government and persuade the Sunnis to stop their attacks,” another official familiar with Mr. Cheney’s visit said. “Instead, the Saudis kept saying that they wanted a U.S. initiative to stop the Israelis’ attack in Gaza and Cheney just agreed.”

Under the Baker proposal, the Bush administration would arrange a Middle East conference that would discuss the future of Iraq and other Middle East issues. Officials said the conference would seek to win Arab support on Iraq in exchange for a U.S. pledge to renew efforts to press Israel to withdraw from the West Bank and Golan Heights.

“Baker sees his plan as containing something for everybody, except perhaps the Israelis,” the official said. “The Syrians would get back the Golan, the Iranians would get U.S. recognition and the Saudis would regain their influence, particularly with the Palestinians.”

Officials said Mr. Baker's influence within the administration and the Republican Party’s leadership stems from support by the president's father as well as former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Throughout the current Bush administration, such senior officials as Mr. Hadley and Ms. Rice were said to have been consulting with Brent Scowcroft, the former president's national security advisor, regarded as close to Mr. Baker.

“Everybody has fallen in line,” the official said. “Bush is not in the daily loop. He is shocked by the elections and he's hoping for a miracle on Iraq.”

For his part, Mr. Bush has expressed unease in negotiating with Iran. At a Nov. 30 news conference in Amman, Jordan, the president cited Iran's interference in the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki.

“We respect their heritage, we respect their history, we respect their traditions,” Mr. Bush said. “I just have a problem with a government that is isolating its people, denying its people benefits that could be had from engagement with the world.”

Mr. Baker's recommendation to woo Iran and Syria has also received support from some in the conservative wing of the GOP. Over the last week, former and current Republican leaders in Congress—convinced of the need for a U.S. withdrawal before the 2008 presidential elections—have called for Iranian and Syrian participation in an effort to stabilize Iraq.

“I would look at an entirely new strategy,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said. “We have clearly failed in the last three years to achieve the kind of outcome we want.”

In contrast, Defense Department officials have warned against granting a role to Iran and Syria at Israel's expense. They said such a strategy would also end up undermining Arab allies of the United States such as Egypt, Jordan and Morocco.

“The regional strategy is a euphemism for throwing Free Iraq to the wolves in its neighborhood: Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia,” said the Center for Security Policy, regarded as being close to the Pentagon. “If the Baker regional strategy is adopted, we will prove to all the world that it is better to be America's enemy than its friend. Jim Baker's hostility towards the Jews is a matter of record and has endeared him to Israel's foes in the region.”

But Defense Secretary-designate Robert Gates, a former colleague of Mr. Baker on the Iraq Study Group, has expressed support for U.S. negotiations with Iran and Syria. In response to questions from the Senate Armed Services Committee, which begins confirmation hearings this week, Mr. Gates compared the two U.S. adversaries to the Soviet Union.

“Even in the worst days of the Cold War, the U.S. maintained a dialogue with the Soviet Union and China, and I believe those channels of communication helped us manage many potentially difficult situations,” Mr. Gates said. “Our engagement with Syria need not be unilateral. It could, for instance, take the form of Syrian participation in a regional conference.”


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To: Wuli

The message from the power brokers is real clear: "You want peace? Surrender Israel." The only question left - is Israel so weak now that she will allow herself to walk the plank.


41 posted on 12/06/2006 1:09:01 PM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (The Democrats solution is poison. When the patient is dying, their solution - more poison.)
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To: oceanview
Baker represents "republicans" as a whole now? what about the Dems, they support complete surrender against islam and in iraq, yet I don't see you calling them anti-semites?

Nope, no more than McKinney or Ellison represent all Democrats.

But he's a long time Bush advisor and prominent Republican. Like it or not, that's how it's going to play politically. If the statement is valid and gets picked up by the press like his *uck the Jews pronouncement.

Whether Baker is an antisemite or not I don't know, he has a aversion to both Jews and Israel. Dems advocating "surrender to Islam" is a different issue, with totally different motivations.

42 posted on 12/06/2006 1:09:06 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yes, and let's have a meeting on Catholic doctrine but not include the Pope.

Stupdiest thing I've heard since the last time Nancy Pelosi opened her maw.


43 posted on 12/06/2006 1:10:26 PM PST by karnage
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To: SJackson
Baker just now: "If we could flip Syria, get them together with their Sunni neighbors and the United States (wtf?), we could solve Israel's Hezbollah problem."

The guy thinks we can just talk Islamic countries into "flipping" in favor of the US with some carrot. He doesn't get it.

44 posted on 12/06/2006 1:10:50 PM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"“This has become the most hottest proposal examined by the foreign policy people over the last month.”


Not just the hottest, folks ... the MOST hottest. That's hot.

45 posted on 12/06/2006 1:10:54 PM PST by cdbull23 ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black, send it back." - Homer on what's good to drink.)
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To: SJackson

I haven't read the details in the report - was this "no israel at the conference" plank something the entire group agreed to, or is this just Baker talking off the cuff on his own?


46 posted on 12/06/2006 1:10:57 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Lurker
It seems the Saudis bought themselves a Report....

Yep.

47 posted on 12/06/2006 1:11:27 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: processing please hold
How much worse can it get no matter who's in the WH. Americans have been sold down the river for unimpeded illegal alien invasion and Israel has been sold down the river to appease and bow to islam.

Israel won't get sold down the river.

And they won't be illegals much longer, I predict by the end of 2007 the number of illegals in America will be down by 8 or 10 million.

48 posted on 12/06/2006 1:11:58 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: elhombrelibre

Leave the Republican Party? Makes me want to leave the damn country. Our word means nothing now... We are the weakest of weaklings...Say goodbye to the once great USA. And to think this all occurred in a Republican administration.


49 posted on 12/06/2006 1:12:03 PM PST by Hildy ("Death plucks my ear and says - LIVE - I am coming.....")
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To: Sender
This is pure nuts. Surely this "plan" is a misunderstanding?

There have been articles speculating about this for weeks. Based on what now appear to be well informed leaks.

50 posted on 12/06/2006 1:13:51 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Baker: Exclude Israel, but require them to accept all inbound Muslims.


51 posted on 12/06/2006 1:14:28 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Crusades were indigenous peoples' counter-attacks against imperialist foreign Muslim invaders)
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To: Hildy

can you hold on until the dust settles.


52 posted on 12/06/2006 1:14:35 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Hildy
There is a part of me that says, "Let's take a breath." Tony Snow is on Hannity now and he's not exactly seeing this the way Baker and company may want to have it understood. Regardless, no way do we give anything to Syria other than High Explosives delivered to Assad's bed while he's in it if we want to get Syria's cooperation.
54 posted on 12/06/2006 1:15:21 PM PST by elhombrelibre (Iraq: the next country Liberals want to abandon just before Israel.)
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To: Kennard
The President can then nobly say that he is "not going to abandon our Israeli friends, as some in both parties would have me" and "will not cave in to foreign oil money". "Instead I will serve the interests of America and stay the course."

Joe Biden beat him to the "not going to abandon our Israeli friends comment, but GWB can still do stay the course

55 posted on 12/06/2006 1:15:25 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I guess the Saudi's have given the ultimatum: It's either our oil or the Jews. Take your pick.


56 posted on 12/06/2006 1:15:35 PM PST by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: Lurker
"It seems the Saudis bought themselves a Report...."

James Baker is a Saudi Prostitute.

57 posted on 12/06/2006 1:15:37 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Crusades were indigenous peoples' counter-attacks against imperialist foreign Muslim invaders)
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To: West Coast Conservative
This is outrageous. I just don't get it.

First, the Administration floats the trial balloon (lead balloon, actually) of higher Social Security taxes via lifting the income ceiling.

Then they float the George Mitchell/UN rumor (another lead balloon).

And now this? What the heck is going on?

Heck, I'd rather have a 'lame duck' administration if THIS is the alternative!! Geeeez.

58 posted on 12/06/2006 1:16:13 PM PST by stockstrader ("Where government advances--and it advances relentlessly--freedom is imperiled"-Janice Rogers Brown)
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59 posted on 12/06/2006 1:16:22 PM PST by firewalk
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To: West Coast Conservative

Well, so much for the GOP getting the Jewish vote anytime soon.


60 posted on 12/06/2006 1:16:33 PM PST by dfwgator
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