Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Conservative Jews ok gay rabbis
Reuters ^ | Dec 6, 2006 4:17pm ET27 | Michelle Nichols

Posted on 12/06/2006 6:27:57 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Leaders of the Conservative Jewish movement opened the door on Wednesday to the ordination of gay rabbis and the recognition of gay marriage, but made it clear the more orthodox in the faith may go on opposing such liberalization.

"We as a movement see the advocacy of pluralism and we know that people come to different conclusions," said Rabbi Kassel Abelson, speaking for the 25-member Rabbinical Assembly Committee on Jewish Law and Standards which issued a series of advisory reports.

"These ... are accepted as guides so that the gays and lesbians can be welcomed into our congregation and communities and made to feel accepted," he added.

The statements issued by the committee are not binding on congregations or seminaries. One said openly gay people should be allowed as rabbis and that "committed gay relationships" can be recognized but not blessed. That statement also retained the prohibition in the Torah (the Five Books of Moses) against male homosexual intercourse.

In a separate vote the group also upheld a 1992 statement that advises against gay ordinations and the recognition of same-sex marriages. The result is a mixed approach that will allow both liberals and the more orthodox in the movement to pursue whichever policies they prefer.

With so much left to the institutions' and congregations' discretion, the issue was likely to go on stirring controversy in the movement.

Four members of the committee resigned after the statements were issued, saying they opposed the methods used to reach the conclusions in the paper liberalizing gay rabbis.

There are perhaps 6 million Jews in the United States, only about a third of them affiliated with a congregation. Of those who do attend synagogue 38 percent are Reform, 33 percent Conservative and 22 percent Orthodox, according to one survey.

The Conservative movement holds the middle ground between liberalism and orthodoxy and the gay issue is a matter of division within it, as is the case with many other faiths.

Rabbi Jerome Epstein of the United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism in New York, asked what backing the two differing views might have, said: "Based on the e-mails and phone calls we have been receiving my guess is that it's very close to an even split at the moment."

Rabbi Elliot Dorff of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles said each of the rabbinical schools would hold their own discussions on the papers accepted by the council.

"I imagine each of the seminaries will handle it differently," he said. ""My guess is that within the next several weeks we will be announcing that our rabbinical school will be open to gays and lesbians because we have already had this discussion"

Rabbi Joel Meyers, executive vice president of the Rabbinical Assembly, said rabbis who so desire could start performing commitment ceremonies recognizing gay relationships immediately.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cinos; gayagenda; homosexualagenda; jews; rabbis; religion
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-52 next last
This is too equivocal. It sounds like something a Reform(Jew Light less filling-dilettante certified) movement would come up with.
1 posted on 12/06/2006 6:28:06 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

Levitical Law is clear, Rabbi.


2 posted on 12/06/2006 6:40:02 PM PST by Enosh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

Israeli Court Orders Government to Recognize Gay Marriage

In a landmark 6-1 decision, Israel’s Supreme Court ordered the government to begin recognizing “gay marriages.” The move is widely perceived as “peace offering” to the Muslim community.

“The polygamy permitted under Islam allows the powerful and wealthy to take a disproportionate share of the women off the marriage market,” the court said in its ruling. “This leaves weak and poor Muslim men with no access to a normal heterosexual union. Sodomy, bestiality and suicide bombing become the default options. By allowing homosexual unions maybe we can head off a greater evil.”

The court expressed a willingness to consider recognizing “inter-species marriages” if the appropriate case could be brought to its attention. “The companionship of a goat or ewe may be the best some of these social misfits can hope for,” the court continued. “If these man-beast relationships can be normalized under the law the urge to rape or kill may be diminished.”

A poll of single Muslim men revealed that 32 percent hoped to find a woman—even a fat or ugly one--to wed. “They are covered in public, so no one knows you have an ugly wife,” said Abdullah Mushwah, a poll respondent from Bethlehem. “If you have sex in the dark even the husband doesn’t have to see her face. They can also cook. Although they do complain more that a goat or sheep.”

Thirteen percent say they already have a male lover they would like to marry. Goats are favored by 5 percent, sheep by 4 percent. Other livestock garnered a 2 percent share. Thirty-five percent professed themselves satisfied with “raping whores.”

Nine percent said they weren’t sure which option was best. “The options for a poor man are all bad,” said Muhar Kalidath, a respondent from Jerusalem. “Martyrdom and the virgins sound good, in theory. But a goat is a sure thing and not expensive. I find it difficult to decide.”

read more...

http://www.azconservative.org/Semmens1.htm


3 posted on 12/06/2006 6:42:08 PM PST by John Semmens
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enosh

I think so too.


4 posted on 12/06/2006 6:42:55 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: John Semmens
"read more... "

No thanks, I've seen enough!

5 posted on 12/06/2006 6:44:17 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

GABBIS? YIKES!


6 posted on 12/06/2006 6:47:26 PM PST by JOE6PAK (blithering intellectual.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
The Reform Jews already admit gays. What will happen is the more conservative Conservative Jews will join the Orthodox; the rest will join the Reform.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

7 posted on 12/06/2006 6:48:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Enosh

Except that they are not real Rabbis.


8 posted on 12/06/2006 6:49:42 PM PST by yochanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

Conservative Judaism is an offshoot of Reform Judaism. It was formed by Reform Jews who wanted something of a "return to tradition," but didn't want to go all the way back to being Orthodox. I believe the Conservatives can still be fairly "liberal" politically.


9 posted on 12/06/2006 6:51:13 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
So to summariize:

Of the six million Jews in the United States....only two million go to synagogue. Of that two million only 500,000 are actually real Jews. The rest are just leftist liberal democrats.

10 posted on 12/06/2006 6:53:47 PM PST by Godebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: goldstategop

Either that or simply become less involved.


11 posted on 12/06/2006 6:54:26 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Sam Cree

My understanding is that "Conservative Judaism" is actually more liberal than the reformed branch. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of this could help clarify this.


12 posted on 12/06/2006 6:58:27 PM PST by joshhiggins (O you who believe! do not take the MUSLIMS for friends)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

It would seem that the term 'conservative' is taking quite a beating these days. Put me down into the ultra-orthodox American catagory, please.


13 posted on 12/06/2006 6:58:29 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Alouette; SJackson

ping


14 posted on 12/06/2006 7:00:06 PM PST by EveningStar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
Those Lefty infiltrators have been relentless in how they try to force Christian and Jewish Believers away from the tried and true Word of GOD.

And, funny how we never see any Muslim clergy leaders suggesting major alterations in the tenants of their faith to their followers.

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/NEWS06/611290429

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Diaprax%2C+Marxist&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1522047/posts
15 posted on 12/06/2006 7:01:36 PM PST by 2ThumbsUp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: John Semmens

"Goats are favored by 5 percent, sheep by 4 percent.."
Don't forget the jackalope out here in Colorado. Very popular with your "alternative lifestyles" crowd!


16 posted on 12/06/2006 7:02:52 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Godebert

I hang out with Chassidic Jews so I can tell you that the Orthodox consider them all to be real Jews (except for Conservative and Reform converts). It's Conservative and Reform Judaism that they don't consider to be Jewish.


17 posted on 12/06/2006 7:03:04 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

It must be the Democrats in their congregation speaking for the rest. (s)after all religion is relative to society's needs.(/s)


18 posted on 12/06/2006 7:03:41 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ThumbsUp
"And, funny how we never see any Muslim clergy leaders suggesting major alterations in the tenants of their faith to their followers."

That is why and how they may win. They believe and observe their beliefs.

19 posted on 12/06/2006 7:03:46 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

Perhaps they should call themselves "Rabbies."


20 posted on 12/06/2006 7:05:52 PM PST by Trot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yochanan

They are "Pagans in the Pulpit"


http://www.ritualabusefree.org/Pagans%20in%20the%20Pulpit.htm


21 posted on 12/06/2006 7:06:13 PM PST by 2ThumbsUp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: joshhiggins
Maybe this will help answer your question: The Conservative Lie.
22 posted on 12/06/2006 7:07:02 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: joshhiggins

I've been to a couple Conservative services and thought there was some political correctness evident in the rabbis' postures. Also the prayer book. OTOH, I heard one Conservative rabbi really blast Bill Clinton from the pulpit, during a discussion on honesty and morality.


23 posted on 12/06/2006 7:08:02 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Godebert
I wonder if some may think it's GOD and religion want no part of, when instead, it's the flow of b.s. that has been dished out by the infiltrators.


Sanger's Chosen People:

Sanger claimed that not only birth control, but the
pseudo-science of eugenics was at the heart of Christianity. Look at the following quote from her book:
called the "Negro Project." This was an effort to send people throughout the southern United States to con¬vince black Americans not to have children. In typi¬cal Planned Parenthood fashion, the organization enlisted clergy to do its work. In an October 1939 let¬ter Sanger wrote:
Dean Inge believes Birth Control is an essen¬tial part of Eugenics and an essential part of Christian morality. On this point he asserts: "We do wish to remind our orthodox and con¬servative friends that the Sermon on the Mount contains some admirably clear and unmistakable eugenic precepts. 'Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? A corrupt tree cannot bring forth good fruit, neither can a good tree bring forth evil fruit. Every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.' We wish to apply these words not only to the actions of individuals, which spring from their characters, but to the character of individuals, which spring from their inherited qualities."
Wow. You probably weren't aware that the Sermon on the Mount was Jesus advocating for us to create a master race. But that's what Sanger said and she used so-called Christian ministers to do her bidding. In the late 1930s, Sanger developed what she called the "Negro Project." This was an effort to send people throughout the southern United States to con¬vince black Americans not to have children. In typi¬cal Planned Parenthood fashion, the organization enlisted clergy to do its work. In an October 1939 let¬ter Sanger wrote:
[We propose to] hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service back¬grounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that 'idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.
"The most successful educa¬tional approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population" wrote Sanger.
Considering the Negro Project, is it any wonder that many Planned Parenthood centers are located in or near poor minority neighborhoods around the U.S.? What's more, is it any wonder that the International Planned Parenthood Federation and its Global Safe Abortion Fund work in tandem with the United Nations Population Fund forcing birth con¬trol-including coerced abortions and involuntary sterilizations-on non-white mothers in the poorest countries around, the world?
Now let us fast-forward to 2005-the year that the head of Planned Parenthood's clergy committee, Tom Davis, a minister with the United Church of Christ, released a book, Sacred Work: PLanned Parenthood and ItrJ Clergy ALLiance.J. This book carries on the tradition of Sanger's early work and tries to por¬tray Planned Parenthood as doing God's work.
However, one of the first admissions in Davis' book is that Planned Parenthood is a "secular human¬ist" organization. This is documented in the foreword, written by Reverend Carlton W. Veazey, and again in the text of the book. Secular humanists adhere to the doctrines espoused in the three HumaniA Manife.JtorJ (issued in 1933, 1973 and 2000). It is beyond the
September-October 2006 Celebrate Life I 9




http://dissectleft.blogspot.com/

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/1/pph/

Planned Parenthood covers up sex abuse: "Sexual activity with underage girls is illegal in all 50 states-yet Life Dynamics discovered that Planned Parenthood counselors are willing to cover up sexual crimes against underage girls by adult males! LDI encouraged a team of girls to call PP clinics and pretend to have been sexually abused by adult males. In case after case, PP counselors willingly ignored state law to cover up these molestations and violations of statutory rape laws! These conversations were taped by LDI. Each PP clinic that has covered up child molestation must be prosecuted!"


http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=church+infiltrated+by+communists&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
24 posted on 12/06/2006 7:18:02 PM PST by 2ThumbsUp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

This is rediculous: I don't think The Almighty is happy: Leviticus strictly prohibits sexual sin including perverted sodomite sin.


25 posted on 12/06/2006 7:25:41 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tuesday afternoon

Just so. If your parentage is Jewish, or at least if your mother is Jewish, then you are a Jew, because the Jews are a Chosen People. Jews can disobey the law and refuse the Covenant, which to the extent it is deliberate makes them bad Jews, I suppose.

Or someone can become a Jewish convert, if it is done properly by an Orthodox rabbi.

In much the same way, once a Catholic, always a Catholic, although you can choose to become a bad Catholic or an apostate Catholic. But from the Catholic point of view, baptism and reception into the Church cannot be simply undone.


26 posted on 12/06/2006 8:16:15 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: JSDude1

Anybody check out Mike Savage and his rant on this subject Conservative Jews ok gayrabbs?
He got pre-empted on Chicago's WIND am560 and WSAW am 550 for state basketball but could be heard later on WWL New Orleans am 870 going on about H.A.Baker. Found interesting review on Baker and posted it in http://www.theusmat.com


27 posted on 12/06/2006 8:29:12 PM PST by mosesdapoet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

It seems that the gay agenda is a trojan horse (no pun intended) that the left uses to gain full control of the various religious organizations. Some self-proclaimed "moderate" seeks "dialog" about "issues over which honest people can disagree" and then watch out! As soon as some committee votes 51% in favor of a leftist position, all talk about "dialog" goes away and the more conservative members quit or are forced out and the far left has complete control of that denomination.


28 posted on 12/06/2006 9:20:13 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AFA-Michigan; Agitate; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BabaOreally; Balke; BigFinn; BlackElk; ...
"Conservative"? In what way? I'd call it "swirling down the drain".

Homosexual Agenda Ping

Freepmail wagglebee or little jeremiah to subscribe or unsubscribe from the homosexual agenda ping list.

Click FreeRepublic homosexual agenda keyword search for a list of all related articles.

Add keywords homosexual agenda to flag FR articles to this ping list.

29 posted on 12/06/2006 9:21:16 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

Sounds like conservative Jews aren't that conservative after all. If I were a conservative Jew, I'd be looking for the nearest Orthodox community about now.


30 posted on 12/06/2006 9:23:02 PM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ThumbsUp
And, funny how we never see any Muslim clergy leaders suggesting major alterations in the tenants of their faith to their followers.

Islam's got that whole head-cutting-off thing for those who step too far out of line...
31 posted on 12/06/2006 9:25:04 PM PST by Antoninus (Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Wilhelm Tell

That was their stated objective back in the 80s.

Check the summary in comment #10.


32 posted on 12/06/2006 9:28:14 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Wilhelm Tell

Here's the link, duh:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1147428/posts
After the Ball--Why the Homosexual Movement Has Won


33 posted on 12/06/2006 9:29:10 PM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: JOE6PAK
GABBIS? YIKES!

There already are gabbis. A gabbi is a syngagouge lay leader responsible for doling out honors (such as who gets to carry the Torah) and making sure services run smoothly (i.e. approaching people who are talking or behaving inappropriately and getting them back in line).

I'm sure you were being facitious, but I just thought I'd give you a bit of education.

34 posted on 12/06/2006 11:01:37 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: joshhiggins; Sam Cree
My understanding is that "Conservative Judaism" is actually more liberal than the reformed branch. Perhaps someone with more knowledge of this could help clarify this.

Not quite. American "Conservative Judaism" basically formed from two groups -- Reform Rabbis who were disgusted with the liberalness of Reform Judaism, and formally broke with Reform after non-kosher food was served at a Hebrew Union College commencement, and more traditional Jews who observed Halacha. At the time (late 19th century) there was no organized "Orthodox" movement, and the burgeoning Conservative movement grew to fill that role. Many synagouges that are today Orthodox, such as the prestigious Spanish-Portuegese synagouges in Philadelphia and New York were instrumental in forming Conservative institutions such as the Jewish Theological Seminary ("JTS").

During the early half of the 20th Century, there was no practical distinction between the Conservative movement and what today would be called Modern Orthodoxy. My childhood rabbi, for example, attended JTS on scholarship and then returned to serve his extremely traditional community in Calcutta, India for twenty years, until that community all emigrated to Israel, London or the US.

In the decade following WWII, there was a strong break between Conservative and Orthodox Judaism, which was finalized when the Conservative movement issued a Halachic ruling allowing people to drive on Shabbat.

Today, theologically, very little separates Conservative and Orthodox Judaism. On paper, both accept that the Torah (both Written and Oral) came from God (although many Conservative rabbis have broken from this) and accept that Halacha (Jewish Law) is binding. The difference is that the Conservative movement is willing to allow Jewish Law to "evolve" using Halachic processes (rabbincal debate and discussion) that have not been in place for centuries and reconsider "settled" opinions.

Orthodoxy, on the other hand, is extremely reluctant to disturb settled Jewish precedent, to the point that it preserves laws and stringencies that it acknowledges were instituted by men and have outlived their usefulness. There are exceptions to this principal, but they are rare.

In practice, however, the Conservative movement -- while going through the motions of Halachic processes -- does it only for show. In other words, while they claim to look at the sources to find an answer, in reality they find an answer (based on popular fashion) and then try to justify it by referencing sources. As a result, they allow Jewish law to "change" based on popular fashion, regardless of whether the change is supportable or not.

Reform, theologically, is very different from Orthodoxy and Conservative Judaism. It rejects that Jewish Law is binding, and doesn't even go through the motions of trying to justify their positions. In practice, it doesn't differ much from Conservative Judaism.

35 posted on 12/06/2006 11:19:32 PM PST by ChicagoHebrew (Hell exists, it is real. It's a quiet green meadow populated entirely by Arab goat herders.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

They define the term CINO (conservative in name only.)


36 posted on 12/06/2006 11:30:08 PM PST by darkangel82 (Everyone has the right to be an idiot, but on DU they abuse the privilege.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: ChicagoHebrew

Thanks for the explanation, and good to see you!


37 posted on 12/07/2006 12:03:05 AM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: darkangel82

Yup.


38 posted on 12/07/2006 12:09:30 AM PST by little jeremiah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: joshhiggins
I have a friend who attends a Conservative shul, and she was a big Algore fan.

It could be that the Conservative branch has just slowly gotten more liberal over hte years, so they're moving away from the Orthodox. This friend once told me that in Reform Judaism, it's not unusual to find people who don't even believe in God. When she told me that, I was incredulous and asked "But if they call themselves a "Chosen people" by whom do they think they've been chosen?" She didn't really know.

39 posted on 12/07/2006 12:10:18 AM PST by SuziQ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182

Conservative Jews are Episcopalian analogues. Reforms are like Unitarians.


40 posted on 12/07/2006 1:48:55 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mosesdapoet
Anybody check out Mike Savage and his rant on this subject Conservative Jews ok gayrabbs?

I heard part of it. Basically he was saying that Reform and Conservative Judaism will disappear within another generation and only the Orthodox will be left because they are the only ones making babies above replacement level.

I don't like Savage, but I listen to him for entertainment value. He attended a Passover seder at the Chabad House in San Francisco where my oldest son was working at the time. If you want to know what he is like in real life, just like his radio persona: complete a**h*le.

41 posted on 12/07/2006 4:17:14 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 79-82)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: 1st-P-In-The-Pod; A_Conservative_in_Cambridge; af_vet_rr; agrace; albyjimc2; Alexander Rubin; ...
FRmail me to be added or removed from this Judaic/pro-Israel/Russian Jewry ping list.

Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

42 posted on 12/07/2006 4:21:34 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 79-82)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
FYI Ping!

Catholic Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


43 posted on 12/07/2006 6:36:25 AM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ChicagoHebrew

Thanks for the info.


44 posted on 12/07/2006 7:21:00 AM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: John Semmens

you had me going there for a minute....


45 posted on 12/07/2006 9:46:52 AM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
America - The Country That Destroys The Values Of Every Religion Under God.

No matter the religion, if you practice it in America it will eventually become a perversion of itself and morph into hedonism.

Why not just revoke the whole notion of sin so the child molesters don't have to feel shame? Or maybe start offering late term abortions at the alter there under the Torah? Maybe they can let gay guys take home the Shofar for their honeymoon after their gay marriage in the Temple?

46 posted on 12/07/2006 9:49:53 AM PST by bpjam (Don't Blame Me. I Voted GOP.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
Rabbi Elliot Dorff of the University of Judaism in Los Angeles said each of the rabbinical schools would hold their own discussions on the papers accepted by the council.

"I imagine each of the seminaries will handle it differently," he said. ""My guess is that within the next several weeks we will be announcing that our rabbinical school will be open to gays and lesbians because we have already had this discussion"

Oh dear L-rd. This is depressing to me. I've used their services (mikvah etc). Argh.

47 posted on 12/07/2006 11:45:17 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Anti-Bubba182
That statement also retained the prohibition in the Torah (the Five Books of Moses) against male homosexual intercourse.

They VOTED to KEEP the Torah????? How big of 'em!

And I am not a member of my neighborhood synagogue because I don't like the WOMAN rabbi! I am so old-fashioned!

Does their statement mean that oral is not sex, a la Bill Clinton??

48 posted on 12/07/2006 11:47:39 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: John Semmens

I am blonde: is that a REAL article in your post? It couldn't be!


49 posted on 12/07/2006 11:49:25 AM PST by Yaelle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ThumbsUp
Interesting!

Sanger's first location was in the Brownsville area of Brooklyn, a predominately Jewish area. It was her intention to eliminate the Jews. I lived in the Bushwick section, adjacent to Brownsville. I remember when the City closed her location. This was during the mid 1930s. She later open a location on 125th Street, Harlem to work on the Negroes.

Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was an
adulteress, racist and bigot, a supporter of Hitler's Nazi party, and a believer in eugenics - the purification of a particular race of people by selective breeding. Her magazines and journals were filled with writings and articles by well-known eugenicists and members of
Hitler's Third Reich.

"The Birth Control Review", founded by Sanger in 1917, was totally committed to the eugenics philosophy. The official editorial policy of The Review endorsed I.Q. testing, which classified Blacks,southern Europeans, and other immigrants as mentally inferior to native-born White Americans and called them a nuisance and a menace to society.[9] In the 1920s she tried to use the results from I.Q. tests, which classified the U.S. soldier as a near moron, to back up
her own findings.

Sanger truly believed these groups were a "dead weight of human waste" and "a menace to the race."[10]
50 posted on 12/07/2006 1:08:15 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-52 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson