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FYI: Outgoing Santorum votes AGAINST Gates (SecDef Nomination) (mocks 'talking' with Iran)
Washington Post ^ | 12/7/2996 | Washington Post

Posted on 12/07/2006 6:12:52 AM PST by FreedomNeocon

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Overall, 52 Republicans, 42 Democrats and one independent voted for Gates. Three lawmakers _ Sens. Joseph Biden, D-Del., Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Elizabeth Dole, R-N.C. _ did not vote.

Two Bush allies, Sens. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and Jim Bunning, R-Ky., voted against Gates, citing his criticism of the war and his view that the U.S. should engage Iran as part of a solution.

"Mr. Gates has repeatedly criticized our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan without providing any viable solutions to the problems our troops currently face," Bunning said. "We need a secretary of defense to think forward with solutions and not backward on history we cannot change."

Santorum, who lost his re-election bid last month, mocked the idea of engaging dictators and talked at length of the evils of "radical Islamic fascism." When it comes to reaching out to Iran to discuss the security of Iraq, Santorum said of Gates, "I think he is in error."

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KEYWORDS: 2008; gates; hero; patriot; realman; santorum
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Thanks, I just emailed that address, we'll see what happens. I heard Rick's speech re Gates last night and I was so impressed. He called a spade a spade. That is a man who needs to go further i.e to President. Those idiots voted out a really good man.


41 posted on 12/07/2006 7:06:34 AM PST by Aria (Terri: Do not ask for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for theeii)
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To: MadIvan
Is Richard Mellon Scaife still around? After all, he was funding the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. :)

Scaife still publishes the Tribune-Review, but for all the good it does in many other areas, it has never been a pro-life voice. Scaife is pro-choice. Also, the Trib never supported the reasons for going to war in Iraq and was among those praising Murtha for declaring it time to cut and run.

To say, briefly, that Scaife isn't going to be bankrolling Santorum anytime soon.

42 posted on 12/07/2006 7:10:01 AM PST by SoothingDave (Are you on the list?)
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To: Wormwood
Not looking for an argument. Maybe my post wasn't clear.

Another try; all the expressed Republican hopefuls (Rudy, McCain, Romney, etc.)are in my opinion nothing more than Hillary Lite.

What would we win if we elected any of these candidates?

IMO, even if we won, we'd loose by moving the entire country to the left.

43 posted on 12/07/2006 7:10:53 AM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Ramcat
A proud "Goldwater Republican" would never settle for less Hillary.

So you'd settle for more hillary.

44 posted on 12/07/2006 7:12:04 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: FreedomNeocon

Why are Biden, Dole, etc termed "lawmakers" and Santorum and Bunning characterized as "Bush allies"? They are all "senators" the last time I looked.

Bias, anyone?


45 posted on 12/07/2006 7:14:52 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MadIvan

Santorum for President is the only candidate that could excite me right now. Others have sugested Santorum as Ambassador to the UN. That's not a bad plan either.


46 posted on 12/07/2006 7:16:20 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Wormwood

agreed.

he lost Pennsylvania in a landslide. I don't see him winning anything other than the deep south, utah, wyoming and Idaho in a national election.


47 posted on 12/07/2006 7:16:29 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

the chances of his confirmation are slim to none.


48 posted on 12/07/2006 7:17:06 AM PST by ChurtleDawg (kill em all)
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To: RockinRight

Please...we have enough problems....don't want Philly for any reason....and I don't like their cheese steaks, either!!!!!!!


49 posted on 12/07/2006 7:18:15 AM PST by Betteboop
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


50 posted on 12/07/2006 7:19:36 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: Wormwood
But Rick Santorum, regardless of his conservative credentials, has made enough politically suicidal statements that he would be toast in a national campaign.

It looks like that now, but ten years from now he'll look like an oracle. He'll be vindicated.

And since he's a young man, he can capitalize on it, once Americans wake up from this period of silliness.

51 posted on 12/07/2006 7:19:53 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Rick Santorum in 2008, or 2012 or whenever we get serious about Islamofascism.)
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To: RockinRight
If only PA could just give Philly to New Jersey...

No thanks; not even in a swap for Camden, Trenton and Newark!

52 posted on 12/07/2006 7:21:17 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help m)
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To: NeoCaveman
It looks like that now, but ten years from now he'll look like an oracle.

I disagree. Ten years from now he's look like a relic.

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

53 posted on 12/07/2006 7:21:24 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: Betteboop
Please...we have enough problems....don't want Philly for any reason....and I don't like their cheese steaks, either!!!!!!!

Those are fighting words!

54 posted on 12/07/2006 7:22:30 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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To: outofstyle
Anyone who calls himself a conservative and voted for Casey over Santorum must have rocks in his head. Oughta be ashamed...

Casey is going to toe the liberal 'Rat line when it comes to voting on nominees for the USSC, you watch. He's an empty suit when it comes to being pro-life.

55 posted on 12/07/2006 7:28:51 AM PST by chimera
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Ditto.


56 posted on 12/07/2006 7:29:27 AM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: standingfirm
What was the deep red's problem w/Santorum?

I don't know. They seem to have been mad at the entire GOP and stayed home. If you browse this thread you'll get a sense of their anger at the entire Party:

Hensarling Wins RSC Chair!

57 posted on 12/07/2006 7:29:39 AM PST by Tinian
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To: Wormwood

Ahh, you just don't like what he said about that Supreme Court case.

Well he was right, the Courts by the Nichean ruling have opened the doors to anything goes, and we'll see it soon. Heck polygamists are already talking about using the Texas case in lower courts.


58 posted on 12/07/2006 7:30:30 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Rick Santorum in 2008, or 2012 or whenever we get serious about Islamofascism.)
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To: MadIvan

I wish I could channel Neville Chamberlain and ask him about our chances for a successful outcome if we "engage" with Iran.


59 posted on 12/07/2006 7:32:06 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: NeoCaveman
Ahh, you just don't like what he said about that Supreme Court case.

I believe his statements were politically stupid, regardless of their merit.

I further maintain that he is unelectable by a majority of Americans.

60 posted on 12/07/2006 7:35:50 AM PST by Wormwood (Proud Goldwater Republican ( i.e. persona non grata))
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