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REMNANT OF 1984 ELECTION SURFACES Found: Mysterious ballot box from '84
Charlotte Observer/ The Herald ^ | December 7 | JEFFERSON GEORGE

Posted on 12/07/2006 3:20:44 PM PST by PghBaldy

GASTONIA - Would Ronald Reagan's re-election have been even more of a runaway, or would Walter Mondale have claimed another precinct?

That's one question after a bizarre discovery Wednesday in Gastonia: a locked metal box full of ballots from the 1984 election.

The box was sitting behind a house off West Mauney Avenue when Jim Rudisill found it.

Rudisill is having the former mill house rehabilitated and said people occasionally break into it at night to sleep there. They sometimes take things from the house, he said, but they rarely leave anything.

(Excerpt) Read more at bradenton.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: charlotte; elections; mondale; nc; reagan; votefraud

1 posted on 12/07/2006 3:20:45 PM PST by PghBaldy
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To: PghBaldy

Just D@mn!


2 posted on 12/07/2006 3:21:54 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: PghBaldy

Just another day in NC politics.

Kalee rolls eyes and shakes head


3 posted on 12/07/2006 3:24:43 PM PST by kalee (No burka for me....EVER!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Given Reagan's overwhelming 1984 landslide, it's good for a few jokes and nothing more. But imagine if these were from the 2000 election in Florida?

-ccm

4 posted on 12/07/2006 3:25:44 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: PghBaldy

What's remarkable is that the box contains 1,6878,121 ballots marked for Mondale, 1 more than the difference separating Mondale and Reagan. Howard Dean is crying fraud and calling for a re-vote.


5 posted on 12/07/2006 3:26:28 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: PghBaldy

Sorry, that's 16,878,121 ballots.


6 posted on 12/07/2006 3:29:34 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

No doubt Conyers would be calling for Reagan's posthumous impeachment.


7 posted on 12/07/2006 3:31:02 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Alia

Ping


8 posted on 12/07/2006 3:33:11 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: PghBaldy

Makes you wonder how reliable our election process is.

How much error is there during a typical election? 5%, 10%?

Many races these days are within a couple of percent.

Then again, how many times did the biased election judges recount the ballots in Florida in 2000? Each time they found in favor of Bush.


9 posted on 12/07/2006 3:37:22 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: PghBaldy

Nothing to add, except to say I miss Reagan.

A whole lot.


10 posted on 12/07/2006 3:38:36 PM PST by DemforBush
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To: kittymyrib

In a re-vote between a dead Reagan and a very-much-alive Fritz Mondale, who do you think would win? I think Reagan would probably still win in a landslide.


11 posted on 12/07/2006 3:39:11 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

LOL!!


12 posted on 12/07/2006 3:41:20 PM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: dhs12345

How does a box of ballots just "disappear" anyway?


13 posted on 12/07/2006 3:41:48 PM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: Alter Kaker

What I wouldn't do for another man like Reagan to be President.


14 posted on 12/07/2006 3:42:30 PM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: PghBaldy

They must have already been counted, because otherwise somebody would notice in that election that nobody voted in a precinct.


15 posted on 12/07/2006 3:45:14 PM PST by Torie
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To: RockinRight

My Dad was an election judge some time back.

He told me of a story where a truck delivering ballots took a corner too sharp and dumped a bunch of ballot boxes all over the street. The ballots spilled out all over the street and many were lost. Nothing was mentioned to the public about the incident.

Also, he told me that he learned that they don't count the absentee ballots unless an election is close. Don't know how true this is.

Too bad there isn't more accountability. People assume that the election process is fair. It may be totally screwed up.


16 posted on 12/07/2006 3:52:30 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Alter Kaker
a very-much-alive Fritz Mondale,

If he is alive he can give thanks to his diet of Tana leaves.

17 posted on 12/07/2006 3:54:10 PM PST by scouse
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To: PghBaldy

Jimmy Hoffa is in there!


18 posted on 12/07/2006 4:03:35 PM PST by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: PghBaldy

Who cares about a NC district... The great Reagan could have challenged Minnesota and achieved a near sweep of the country (forget ever getting near a majority in DC) but he decided it wasn't worthwhile challenging the Gopher State.


19 posted on 12/07/2006 4:09:20 PM PST by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: RockinRight
What I wouldn't do for another man like Reagan to be President.

You mean a guy who would grant amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants? Or who would sit idle while the deficit ballooned?

If so, you already have your man.

BTW--try remembering Reagan's 11th Commandment.

20 posted on 12/07/2006 4:17:04 PM PST by Tinian
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To: Constitution Day; TaxRelief; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail Constitution Day OR TaxRelief OR Alia if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
21 posted on 12/07/2006 4:18:46 PM PST by Alia
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To: PghBaldy

"Rove, you magnificent..."

"Ahhh, shut up!"


22 posted on 12/07/2006 4:22:32 PM PST by Tall_Texan (NO McCain, Rudy, Romney, Hillary, Kerry, Obama or Gore in 2008!)
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To: PghBaldy

And they complain about touch screens...


23 posted on 12/07/2006 4:49:20 PM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: PghBaldy; Aussie Dasher; LUV W; All

OMGGG so Ronnie would have punk Walter Mondale MOREEE


24 posted on 12/07/2006 4:57:57 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Tinian

Stop confusing people with facts.


25 posted on 12/07/2006 5:00:47 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: Tall_Texan

NO honey this way before Karl Rove times more like OH GOD maybe Sinatra little Mafia friends LOL!

HEY Frankie thanks to mafia help JFK so I think ole Frankie would gladly help one of his old Hollywood friend to presidency LOL!


26 posted on 12/07/2006 5:00:56 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: PeteB570

Thanks!


27 posted on 12/07/2006 5:26:23 PM PST by Alia
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To: Tinian

Reagan made one big mistake. Amnesty. Nobody is without fault.

But it's been a long day and I don't feel like arguing right now.


28 posted on 12/07/2006 5:28:37 PM PST by RockinRight (Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He's a Socialist. And unqualified.)
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To: Tinian
Can you even describe "The Deficit"?

I can, and I know it isn't what most people think.

Your post smacks of being Anti-Reagan in its tone.

If you can't see that Reagan was one of our greatest presidents, I think you are in the wrong place.
29 posted on 12/07/2006 5:37:02 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's time for the DO-GOODERS to pay the cost of their good-doings.)
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To: Alter Kaker

A dead Reagan would certainly still have my vote against a still brain dead Mondale


30 posted on 12/07/2006 6:06:57 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( Is not death also victory in a war against an abomination so vile you could never live with it?)
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To: Nik Naym
If you can't see that Reagan was one of our greatest presidents, I think you are in the wrong place.

I think Reagan was the greatest president of the 20th century and one of our greatest presidents ever.

Reagan, however, also:

1) Allowed Congress to spend like drunken sailors.

2) Granted blanket amnesty to three million illegal immigrants

3) Turned timid (actually, turned tail) when confronted by islamic fascists.

Yet Reagan is a hero here, while it seems most Freepers think Bush 43 is a bum.

Something is really wrong with this picture.

31 posted on 12/07/2006 6:12:52 PM PST by Tinian
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To: dhs12345
Also, he told me that he learned that they don't count the absentee ballots unless an election is close. Don't know how true this is.

Probably true. Every state does it slightly differently. Ours counts the absentee ballots that can be processed automatically (optical readers), but isn't very diligent about counting the ones that need hand processing unless the vote is close. It's expensive to process those, and if it won't make a difference, there's no reason to bother.

32 posted on 12/07/2006 6:44:32 PM PST by speekinout
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To: PghBaldy

Quick! Send in the lawyers! I demand a recount!!! :^D


33 posted on 12/07/2006 6:47:27 PM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: PghBaldy

Walter Mondale. That loser's performance was even worse than his former boss, Jimmy "Landslide" Carter.


34 posted on 12/07/2006 6:51:28 PM PST by Rosemont
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To: RockinRight

People in general weren't aware of the true greatness of President Reagan during his tenure. Some were, but the media pretty much behaved just about the same way toward him as they have been doing to President Bush during his term in office - undercutting him, ridiculing him constantly, trying to destroy him. Frankly, the talking heads and the DU types constantly ridiculed Reagan for being old, for allegedly going to sleep in Cabinet meetings. All the while Reagan just smiled indulgently, said "there they go again", did his thing half asleep and one hand tied behind his back so much better than Bubba Clinton and came out on top of the Presidential greatness heap in the end. I think he would like President Bush and admire him; glad he didn't have to know a whole lot about Clinton for very long; so depressing.


35 posted on 12/07/2006 6:53:48 PM PST by Twinkie (Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God . . .)
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To: Alia
Yes, my hometown in the news again!! For yet another thing we shouldn't be proud of!! And even on a family road. Woohoo!!

I know, I know, I should probably be ashamed but Gastonny pride is sort of weird. We tend to be more proud of things we shouldn't be and not as for things we should be. It's when the redneck comes out in us ;)

36 posted on 12/07/2006 7:23:15 PM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
It's when the redneck comes out in us ;)

==laughing==

37 posted on 12/08/2006 3:49:01 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia; Constitution Day; TaxRelief; 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; ...
Stupid question; wouldn't such a box contain ballots for ALL races? Much more relevant than the Reagan thing, is it possible that some local races may have been affected by the absence of these ballots?
38 posted on 12/08/2006 7:10:57 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: Lee'sGhost

LG, I was thinking about the races myself. According to the article the closest race was 1,400 votes. IIRC, that was the year of Helms/Hunt but it wasn't close. We didn't have much intrigue back in the 80s there. Pretty much you knew who was going to win months before the election.


39 posted on 12/08/2006 7:22:57 AM PST by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: dhs12345

This whole absentee business is such that I'd like to see a federal law that says you spend 10 years in prison if you or country-appointed member refuses to count a single absentee vote.


40 posted on 01/19/2007 10:58:56 PM PST by pepsionice
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