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Was the Baker Commission bought off by the Saudis?
Law offices of Baker Botts ^ | Law offices of Baker Botts

Posted on 12/07/2006 7:57:27 PM PST by Exton1

Was the Baker Commission bought off by the Saudis?

Here is a link to the Law offices of Baker Botts. http://www.bakerbotts.com/infoCenter/ Notice that they have offices in two Arab countries.

“Lawyers in the Riyadh office have served in community positions throughout Riyadh and Saudi Arabia as a whole. For example, since 1996 we have had lawyers acting as general counsel for the National U.S.-Arab Chamber of Commerce and the Saudi Arabia country coordinator for the American Bar Association's Section on International Law and Practice. In addition, the perspective and experience of James A. Baker III, 61st U.S. Secretary of State and 67th U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, and Robert W. Jordan, who recently served as U.S. Ambassador to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, offer our clients additional resources on which to rely in the region “

Could this have had an influence on the Baker report? There was not one Military person on the commission, nor did they interview any Military person.

Dubai United Arab Emirates http://www.bakerbotts.com/offices/office.aspx?id=f6f8d940-8d90-4aa5-a45b-3a174b8ab1fc and Riyadh Kingdom of Saudi Arabia http://www.bakerbotts.com/offices/office.aspx?id=733fc9ba-30df-43fd-87b1-f91808f53570

(Excerpt) Read more at bakerbotts.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; corruption; foreign; jamesbaker; sellout; tinfoil; truthhurts

1 posted on 12/07/2006 7:57:33 PM PST by Exton1
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To: Exton1

Baker appears to have some splainin to do.


2 posted on 12/07/2006 8:00:33 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Exton1
Perhaps this link can shed some light on these troubling questions.
3 posted on 12/07/2006 8:00:46 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Whoah! That does not look good.


4 posted on 12/07/2006 8:02:49 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Exton1
Baker will explain right after Sandy Burglar does..
The odds though are remote..
5 posted on 12/07/2006 8:05:57 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: Exton1
Why would the Saudis need to buy Baker off, his record would indicate that he could develop this report all on his own.
6 posted on 12/07/2006 8:06:37 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: advance_copy
Some selected tidbits from the article...

April 16 - After months of working below the radar, a huge U.S. legal team hired by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has sprung into action and begun a major counteroffensive against a landmark lawsuit seeking $1 trillion in damages on behalf of the victims of the September 11 terror attacks.
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Baker Botts, Sultan’s law firm, for example, still boasts former secretary of State James Baker as one of its senior partners. Its recent alumni include Robert Jordan, the former personal lawyer for President Bush who is now U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia.


More at link provided in post #3.
7 posted on 12/07/2006 8:14:32 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Exton1

"...nor did they interview any Military person."

not quite true....read the credits beginning on page 107 here:

http://www.bakerinstitute.org/Pubs/iraqstudygroup_findings.pdf


8 posted on 12/07/2006 8:17:02 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Why would the Saudis need to buy Baker off, his record would indicate that he could develop this report all on his own.
What about his record are you thinking of. As Secretary of State wasn't he instrumental in forming the coalition for the first Gulf War? That's no small feat. He was Reagan's Chief of Staff and I think I remember they got at least a little bit of stuff done.

Maybe he's smart enough that we ought to at least consider his opinion.
9 posted on 12/07/2006 8:17:35 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: Exton1

Pah-leeze! Don't go looking for conspiracies, we knew what the report would be, based on the makeup.


10 posted on 12/07/2006 8:18:10 PM PST by AmishDude (I coined "Senator Ass" to describe Jim Webb. He may have already used it as a character in a novel.)
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To: advance_copy

Baker has been a long time being disgruntled with Israel.


11 posted on 12/07/2006 8:20:33 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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To: Exton1

In a word, Yes. Baker's middle eastern record is atrocious.


12 posted on 12/07/2006 8:20:42 PM PST by gotribe (There's still time to begin a war in Iraq.)
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To: Exton1
traitor? anti Semite.... seems to be a whole lot of them lately.
13 posted on 12/07/2006 8:20:47 PM PST by Porterville (Fight without rules. Fight until only one side stands.)
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To: SpaceBar
Its recent alumni include Robert Jordan, the former personal lawyer for President Bush who is now U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia.
Anybody concerned Mr. Jordan caused them to slant the report to much in favor of the Bush Administration?
14 posted on 12/07/2006 8:21:36 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: Porterville
traitor? anti Semite.... seems to be a whole lot of them lately.
I think those are terms used to describe anybody who has a different opinion lol.
15 posted on 12/07/2006 8:25:10 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: Exton1

Does the Pope crap in the woods?


16 posted on 12/07/2006 8:26:28 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
Perhaps you can explain the benefit to America of Baker representing the Saudis in a 9/11 suit.

And perhaps you can explain how suggesting that Israel surrender the Golan to syria and consider "arab right of return" can help solve muslim on muslim violence and anti-American terrorism in Iraq.

BECAUSE THATS WHAT BAKER SUGGESTS IN THE REPORT.

LOL.../s

17 posted on 12/07/2006 8:49:08 PM PST by Yehuda ("Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!" (Choke on it, pinkos!))
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To: advance_copy

In 3 letters

Y
E
S

Baker sold out years ago


18 posted on 12/07/2006 8:50:52 PM PST by Dov in Houston (Hmmmm....)
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

Yeah, but we're right......


19 posted on 12/07/2006 8:51:12 PM PST by Porterville (Fight without rules. Fight until only one side stands.)
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To: Exton1

This doesn't add up. Why would the Saudi's, who are Sunni, want the US out of Iraq? The US has been the only force ensuring that the Shi'ite political leadership provides for Sunni regions. And the abscence of the US only aids Iran, a Shi'ite nation, to influence Iraq, and further persecute Sunnis.


20 posted on 12/07/2006 8:52:41 PM PST by jagrmeister
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To: Exton1

Now come on. We all know that this is just business, and that we can trust our business partners in the middle east not to compromise our interests, right?


21 posted on 12/07/2006 8:53:42 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: Old_Mil

If this were an episode of Scooby Doo, James Baker would be the scary old man with the mummy costume cursing those pesky meddling kids for snooping around on the internet and foiling his scheme. Would'a gotten away with it too...


22 posted on 12/07/2006 9:06:17 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Exton1

Baker had/has ties to the Carlyle Group.


23 posted on 12/07/2006 9:15:32 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: AmishDude

Um.....Sandy Berger was on the committee.....conspiracy or not that's ridiculous in and of itself. The ISG was/is a SHAM/E.


24 posted on 12/07/2006 9:33:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Exton1
Was the Baker Commission bought off by the Saudis?

Is a bullfrog waterproof?

25 posted on 12/07/2006 9:35:31 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Exton1

Baker keeps reminding us what a piece of sh!t the first Bush was as president.


26 posted on 12/07/2006 9:38:18 PM PST by blake6900 (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
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To: Exton1

"There was not one Military person on the commission, nor did they interview any Military person." Not quite accurate.

I r a q S t u d y G r o u p C o n s u l t a t i o n s

*General George W. Casey, Jr.—Commanding General,
Multi-National Forces–Iraq
Lt. General James T. Conway—Director of Operations, J-3,
on the Joint Staff
* Lt. General Peter Chiarelli—Commander, Multi-National
Forces–Iraq
Lt. General David H. Petraeus—Commanding General, U.S.
Army Combined Arms Center and Fort Leavenworth
*Lt. General Martin Dempsey—Commander Multi-National
Security Transition Command–Iraq
*Maj. General Joseph Peterson—Coalition Police Assistance
Training Team
*Maj. General Richard Zilmer—Commander, 1st Marine
Expeditionary Force
Colonel Derek Harvey—Senior Intelligence Officer for Iraq,
Defense Intelligence Agency
Lt. Colonel Richard Bowyer—National War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Lt. Colonel Justin Gubler—National War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Lt. Colonel David Haight—National War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Lt. Colonel Russell Smith—National War College (recently
served in Iraq)


27 posted on 12/07/2006 9:42:17 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever
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To: Porterville
Yeah, but we're right......
That always makes it easier :).
28 posted on 12/07/2006 9:56:37 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: goodnesswins
Um.....Sandy Berger was on the committee.....conspiracy or not that's ridiculous in and of itself.
Sorry, I don't think he was. At least he isn't listed in the report itself.
29 posted on 12/07/2006 10:00:51 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: SpaceBar
Excellent find SpaceBar.

I'm bookmarking it.

Thank you very much.

L

30 posted on 12/07/2006 10:07:13 PM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: jagrmeister
This doesn't add up. Why would the Saudi's, who are Sunni, want the US out of Iraq?
It doesn't to me either. Saudi Arabia has almost no armed forces. That's why they didn't kick Saddam out of Kuwait themselves. Bin-Laden would love nothing better than to overthrow the Saudi Government. And the last thing the Saudis want is a civil war next door in Iraq.
31 posted on 12/07/2006 10:14:17 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker
from CNN, Nov. 14, 2006....

"Later Tuesday, the study group was to meet at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington with foreign policy advisers from the Clinton administration, including Sandy Berger, Clinton's national security adviser; Richard Holbrooke, former ambassador to the U.N.; and Warren Christopher, former secretary of state."

Maybe he wasn't on it....but, he was an "advisor."

32 posted on 12/07/2006 10:15:22 PM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: Exton1

Baker did not write the report alone. It was a give and take document, and not all were in the pay of the Saudis. This garbage is not helpful. Having said that, the report failed to really grapple with the tough end game choices the US faces. Thus, it is near worthless. But it was not a Saudi job. That would be odd, because if all the recommendations were inmplemented, in the ensuing chaos, the Sunnis would be the clear losers, and probably slaughtered like stuck pigs if they lived in the wrong zip codes.


33 posted on 12/07/2006 10:20:20 PM PST by Torie
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To: goodnesswins
Maybe he wasn't on it....but, he was an "advisor."
It says he was one of the foreign policy advisors from the Clinton Administration that they interviewed. I don't think he actually worked for or with them.
34 posted on 12/07/2006 10:41:18 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

I would probably consider "Baker's" opinion.....but....NOT the opinion of a WHOLE GROUP of bureaucrats.


35 posted on 12/07/2006 10:46:40 PM PST by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: jagrmeister

There are a lot of strange alliances in the middle east. Why are the Russians supporting the Muslim Iranian Shiites when the 25 million Muslims living in Russia are mostly Sunni ? It is probably safe to say that some of the Bakers Dozen recommendations came from the House of Saud and some came from the House of Mahdi. Some also came from the dough deposited in the Bakers Dozen Swiss bank accounts (just kidding on this last one of course).


36 posted on 12/07/2006 10:47:26 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: goodnesswins
I would probably consider "Baker's" opinion.....but....NOT the opinion of a WHOLE GROUP of bureaucrats.
Yeah, I know what you mean. But Baker did get a whole room full of bureaucrats to all agree. That's a pretty good feat of diplomacy on its own.
37 posted on 12/07/2006 10:57:10 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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