Skip to comments.Was the Baker Commission bought off by the Saudis?
Posted on 12/07/2006 7:57:27 PM PST by Exton1
Was the Baker Commission bought off by the Saudis?
Here is a link to the Law offices of Baker Botts. http://www.bakerbotts.com/infoCenter/ Notice that they have offices in two Arab countries.
Lawyers in the Riyadh office have served in community positions throughout Riyadh and Saudi Arabia as a whole. For example, since 1996 we have had lawyers acting as general counsel for the National U.S.-Arab Chamber of Commerce and the Saudi Arabia country coordinator for the American Bar Association's Section on International Law and Practice. In addition, the perspective and experience of James A. Baker III, 61st U.S. Secretary of State and 67th U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, and Robert W. Jordan, who recently served as U.S. Ambassador to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, offer our clients additional resources on which to rely in the region
Could this have had an influence on the Baker report? There was not one Military person on the commission, nor did they interview any Military person.
Dubai United Arab Emirates http://www.bakerbotts.com/offices/office.aspx?id=f6f8d940-8d90-4aa5-a45b-3a174b8ab1fc and Riyadh Kingdom of Saudi Arabia http://www.bakerbotts.com/offices/office.aspx?id=733fc9ba-30df-43fd-87b1-f91808f53570
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Baker appears to have some splainin to do.
Whoah! That does not look good.
"...nor did they interview any Military person."
not quite true....read the credits beginning on page 107 here:
Why would the Saudis need to buy Baker off, his record would indicate that he could develop this report all on his own.What about his record are you thinking of. As Secretary of State wasn't he instrumental in forming the coalition for the first Gulf War? That's no small feat. He was Reagan's Chief of Staff and I think I remember they got at least a little bit of stuff done.
Pah-leeze! Don't go looking for conspiracies, we knew what the report would be, based on the makeup.
Baker has been a long time being disgruntled with Israel.
In a word, Yes. Baker's middle eastern record is atrocious.
Its recent alumni include Robert Jordan, the former personal lawyer for President Bush who is now U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia.Anybody concerned Mr. Jordan caused them to slant the report to much in favor of the Bush Administration?
traitor? anti Semite.... seems to be a whole lot of them lately.I think those are terms used to describe anybody who has a different opinion lol.
Does the Pope crap in the woods?
And perhaps you can explain how suggesting that Israel surrender the Golan to syria and consider "arab right of return" can help solve muslim on muslim violence and anti-American terrorism in Iraq.
BECAUSE THATS WHAT BAKER SUGGESTS IN THE REPORT.
In 3 letters
Baker sold out years ago
Yeah, but we're right......
This doesn't add up. Why would the Saudi's, who are Sunni, want the US out of Iraq? The US has been the only force ensuring that the Shi'ite political leadership provides for Sunni regions. And the abscence of the US only aids Iran, a Shi'ite nation, to influence Iraq, and further persecute Sunnis.
Now come on. We all know that this is just business, and that we can trust our business partners in the middle east not to compromise our interests, right?
If this were an episode of Scooby Doo, James Baker would be the scary old man with the mummy costume cursing those pesky meddling kids for snooping around on the internet and foiling his scheme. Would'a gotten away with it too...
Baker had/has ties to the Carlyle Group.
Um.....Sandy Berger was on the committee.....conspiracy or not that's ridiculous in and of itself. The ISG was/is a SHAM/E.
Is a bullfrog waterproof?
Baker keeps reminding us what a piece of sh!t the first Bush was as president.
"There was not one Military person on the commission, nor did they interview any Military person." Not quite accurate.
I r a q S t u d y G r o u p C o n s u l t a t i o n s
*General George W. Casey, Jr.Commanding General,
Lt. General James T. ConwayDirector of Operations, J-3,
on the Joint Staff
* Lt. General Peter ChiarelliCommander, Multi-National
Lt. General David H. PetraeusCommanding General, U.S.
Army Combined Arms Center and Fort Leavenworth
*Lt. General Martin DempseyCommander Multi-National
Security Transition CommandIraq
*Maj. General Joseph PetersonCoalition Police Assistance
*Maj. General Richard ZilmerCommander, 1st Marine
Colonel Derek HarveySenior Intelligence Officer for Iraq,
Defense Intelligence Agency
Lt. Colonel Richard BowyerNational War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Lt. Colonel Justin GublerNational War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Lt. Colonel David HaightNational War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Lt. Colonel Russell SmithNational War College (recently
served in Iraq)
Yeah, but we're right......That always makes it easier :).
Um.....Sandy Berger was on the committee.....conspiracy or not that's ridiculous in and of itself.Sorry, I don't think he was. At least he isn't listed in the report itself.
I'm bookmarking it.
Thank you very much.
This doesn't add up. Why would the Saudi's, who are Sunni, want the US out of Iraq?It doesn't to me either. Saudi Arabia has almost no armed forces. That's why they didn't kick Saddam out of Kuwait themselves. Bin-Laden would love nothing better than to overthrow the Saudi Government. And the last thing the Saudis want is a civil war next door in Iraq.
"Later Tuesday, the study group was to meet at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington with foreign policy advisers from the Clinton administration, including Sandy Berger, Clinton's national security adviser; Richard Holbrooke, former ambassador to the U.N.; and Warren Christopher, former secretary of state."
Maybe he wasn't on it....but, he was an "advisor."
Baker did not write the report alone. It was a give and take document, and not all were in the pay of the Saudis. This garbage is not helpful. Having said that, the report failed to really grapple with the tough end game choices the US faces. Thus, it is near worthless. But it was not a Saudi job. That would be odd, because if all the recommendations were inmplemented, in the ensuing chaos, the Sunnis would be the clear losers, and probably slaughtered like stuck pigs if they lived in the wrong zip codes.
Maybe he wasn't on it....but, he was an "advisor."It says he was one of the foreign policy advisors from the Clinton Administration that they interviewed. I don't think he actually worked for or with them.
I would probably consider "Baker's" opinion.....but....NOT the opinion of a WHOLE GROUP of bureaucrats.
There are a lot of strange alliances in the middle east. Why are the Russians supporting the Muslim Iranian Shiites when the 25 million Muslims living in Russia are mostly Sunni ? It is probably safe to say that some of the Bakers Dozen recommendations came from the House of Saud and some came from the House of Mahdi. Some also came from the dough deposited in the Bakers Dozen Swiss bank accounts (just kidding on this last one of course).
I would probably consider "Baker's" opinion.....but....NOT the opinion of a WHOLE GROUP of bureaucrats.Yeah, I know what you mean. But Baker did get a whole room full of bureaucrats to all agree. That's a pretty good feat of diplomacy on its own.