'Lucy' Hominid Skeleton to Tour American Museums

Foxnews ^ | October 25, 2006 | Associated Press

[scottdeus12]

ADDIS ABABA, Ethiopia — One of the world's most famous fossils — the 3.2 million-year-old Lucy skeleton unearthed in Ethiopia in 1974 — is to travel to the United States, going on display abroad for the first time, officials said Tuesday.

Even the Ethiopian public has seen Lucy only twice — the Lucy exhibition at the Ethiopian Natural History Museum in the capital, Addis Ababa, is a replica; the real remains are usually locked in a vault.

[scottdeus12]

I always enjoy these evo threads....and heck, it's Friday.....Comments?

Scott

[Weep-o-crat Hunter]

The Holy Lord laid out this abomination upon the sand to test the faith of men. Unto all will crackles of lightning fly, and woe unto him who darkens the helldoor of any museum which may hold these devilbones.

[scottdeus12]

Looking at the bones in this pic, I just don't get how this is the "Smoking Gun" that verifies we evolved from apes......

[ShadowDancer]

Ping for when I've been drinking and that post may make sense.

[Names Ash Housewares]

"we evolved from apes."

Popular mistake.

Common ancestor actually, not evolved from apes.

[scottdeus12]

"Common ancestor actually, not evolved from apes."

So what is the human starting point then?

[ASA Vet]

Popular mistake

It's not a mistake, it's deliberate ignorance.

[kesg]

[Weep-o-crat Hunter]

It is the Lord's Own Blood you must drink to truly understand, from a golden cup encrusted with the most precious of saintly jewels. Whiskey is naught but Satan's own micturation.

[Junior]

The Holy Lord laid out this abomination upon the sand to test the faith of men. Unto all will crackles of lightning fly, and woe unto him who darkens the helldoor of any museum which may hold these devilbones.

Hee hee! You're funny! You ought to include a /sarcasm tag with your posts though, or else folks will think your a raving loon.

[dfwgator]

She's got some 'splainin' to do.

[Weep-o-crat Hunter]

Sarcasm is the lingua franca of the unreconstructed Satanist. It is something in which a warrior for Our Lord will never engage.

[Rastus]

[highball]

Thanks for the heads-up: I look forward to seeing her when she comes to New York.

[Names Ash Housewares]

"So what is the human starting point then?"

I am not here to debate it.
I was simply making a correction to what the theory in fact is.

[RadioAstronomer]

LOL! Dude (or dudette), a shot of whiskey (prozac may help as well) just might be the thing you need.

[fish hawk]

Not only that but if you read the real story about Lucy you will find that some of "her bones" were found a half mile or so away from the rest of them which tells me that all the bones are not from the same ape. These idiots will go to any length rather than admit they are pushing a loser.

[east1234]

Disgusting, little Ricky must be furious!

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Oh, that's cute!

We saw a re-pro of "Lucy" at the Natural History museum in Balboa Park, San Diego, CA many years ago. Since I'm only 5'1", Husband's only comment was, "That's pretty much what you'd look like dressed out." LOL!

We're hunters, not cannibals, if anyone doesn't get the humor. ;)

[RadioAstronomer]

Myth! learn some real science for once.

[fish hawk]

I take it that you are one of the Idiots I just mentioned. If you want to talk about Mythology let's talk about evolution.

[RadioAstronomer]

You wear your ignorance proudly.

[Random Access]

"That's pretty much what you'd look like dressed out." LOL!

Now that's funny!

[preacher]

Several years ago scientists were disputing how old the fossil was. There was a pun type headline about this, "Problems In Dating Older Women."

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Glad you got the Midwest Humor. :)

[RunningWolf]

Okay then, just when, where, and how long did the collection of Lucy bones take, and in what proximity of area were all the Lucy bones taken from.

Oh BTW, real sources not disguised talk-orgins links.

[GreenHornet]

the 3.2 million-year-old Lucy

Yeah, but she's got the body of a 1.8 million year old!

[sydjim]

>Not only that but if you read the real story about Lucy you will find that some of "her bones" were found a half mile or so away from the rest of them which tells me that all the bones are not from the same ape. These idiots will go to any length rather than admit they are pushing a loser.

No, Lucy is a 40% complete skeleton all from one location. There is a quote that confuses some people from a earlier interview

"Q. How far away from Lucy did you find the knee?
A. Sixty to seventy meters lower in the strata and two to three kilometers away."

Which is talking about a different knee joint found in 1973. Since then we have found other afarensis skeletons that include the knee joint.

I'm just worried that something will happen to the skeleton. The public relations backlash from some idiot attacking it would be massive.

[paulat]

Sarcasm is the lingua franca of the unreconstructed Satanist. It is something in which a warrior for Our Lord will never engage.

I dunno...I think his "render unto Caesar" remark was pretty sarcastic....

[paulat]

Since I'm only 5'1"

Holy CR@P!!, Diana....

...you post much taller....

[fish hawk]

Lucy is an ape not a person but even so it would be a bad for someone to mess up its skeleton. If anyone reading this thread thinks Lucy is the "missing link" they are daffy. There is nor has never been a "missing link". Even Radio man can't argue that point.

[Coyoteman]

Not only that but if you read the real story about Lucy you will find that some of "her bones" were found a half mile or so away from the rest of them which tells me that all the bones are not from the same ape. These idiots will go to any length rather than admit they are pushing a loser.

The story is false. See Index to Creationist Claims: Claim CC003

[fish hawk]

It doesn't really matter. See post 33. Of course if any of you have a missing link I would be interested in seeing it. (so would a lot of scientists)

[sappy]

Due to budget constraints, the tour will be accompanied by a skeleton crew.

[Coyoteman]

Of course if any of you have a missing link I would be interested in seeing it. (so would a lot of scientists)

This is a transitional, what some journalists or laymen might call a missing link.

Scientists already know about it, along with a number of other intermediate species (see the chart).

Many non-scientists deny this type of evidence for religious reasons, but that does not make it go away, nor does it lessen its significance.

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Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33

Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

[mirvin]

What are all of those dotted lines for?

[shuckmaster]

It is the Lord's Own Blood you must drink to truly understand, from a golden cup encrusted with the most precious of saintly jewels. Whiskey is naught but Satan's own micturation.

You're in dire need of a holy ghost enema.

[Weep-o-crat Hunter]

The Lord Himself is offered Special Dispensation from the Laws Of Men on matters such as these.

[paulat]

The Lord Himself is offered Special Dispensation from the Laws Of Men on matters such as these.

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're responding to me.

[Weep-o-crat Hunter]

{{You're in dire need of a holy ghost enema.}}

I Don't know what this Means.

[Solitar]

I take it that you are one of the Idiots I just mentioned. If you want to talk about Mythology let's talk about evolution

Or the Quran or the Bible -- both copied a lot of older Pagan mythology. The latter retreaded some Pagan holidays too. For evidence read Richard Dawkins book The God Delusion

Or see this very exhaustively documented website: Welcome to Enlightenment!

But I'd bet most are too chicken to read the evidence and find out they may have been bamboozled by old retreaded mythology.

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Oh, my mouth takes up a good 4',11" of me, LOL! :)

[paulat]

Oh, my mouth takes up a good 4',11" of me, LOL! :)

You and me both!!!

[Central Scrutiniser]

You know you can't get a creationist to understand science.

They are afraid that learning something new will destroy their faith.

Kinda makes you wonder how strong their dogmatic beliefs are in the first place.

Is Lucy coming to Phoenix?

[fish hawk]

Give me a break!! Richard Dawkins. LOL He's one of the biggest dimwit Atheists around. Anyone who puts any credence in what he has to say...wanna buy a bridge in Brooklyn?

[Solitar]

Thank you for that link and graphic. Is Lucy then Homo ergaster -- the link above Homo habilus just below Homo erectus and just below the branch leading to us?

Eventually various other missing pieces may be found to help fill the gaps. At least those gaps in our evolution are smaller and easier to explain than the big gap between Adam and the present (I've long wondered who Cain and Abel married if Adam and Eve were the first two people).

[Coyoteman]

Is Lucy then Homo ergaster -- the link above Homo habilus just below Homo erectus and just below the branch leading to us?

Lucy is currently classified as Australopithecus afarensis.

I posted the H. ergaster information in response to a request for a "missing link" (transitional).