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4 dead, including gunman, in downtown shooting (Chicago)
ChicagoTrub ^ | 12-8-06

Posted on 12/08/2006 8:50:06 PM PST by STARWISE

4 dead, including gunman, in downtown shooting; Metra running again

Four people, including the gunman, have died after a shooting at a skyscraper west of Chicago's Loop, police said tonight.

The shooting at 500 W. Madison St., which includes the Ogilvie Transportation Center.

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Police Supt. Phil Cline said the dead included the gunman and three others. An additional person was wounded.

Cline said the gunman, a male who has not yet been identified, wanted to see a specific person when he entered a law firm on the 38th floor of the Citigroup Center office tower shortly before 3:15 p.m. He was armed with a snub-nose revolver, knife and hammer.

"He was escorted upstairs with a security guard, and he had a manila envelope … that held his weapons," Cline said.

When he arrived on the 38th floor, he asked to see a particular individual in the office.

"The offender then displayed a handgun and chained the door shut with a padlock and chain that he had brought with him. He then began shooting," Cline said. "He grabbed a hostage."

Uniformed police officers arrived first and secured the area, Cline said. Then a SWAT team accessed the office using a different entrance and engaged the suspect, he added.

They confronted the man in a hallway, where he alternately pointed his gun at the head of his hostage—a man who was unhurt—and his own head. Cline said that when the SWAT officers had a clear shot, they opened fire. It was about a 45-yard shot taken with a sniper rifle, he said, and the bullet fatally wounded the suspect.

Cline declined to identify the dead or wounded, but said the man the suspect had come to the office to see was killed.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; citigroupcenter; lawfirm
The killer apparently targeted a patent attorney, according to the first reports. Horrible = 4 people at work in their offices are dead. First reports were that 1 was in critical condition. God bless the victims.


1 posted on 12/08/2006 8:50:08 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE

45-yard shot taken with a sniper rifle

yuh, must have been that .50 cal ive been hearing about


2 posted on 12/08/2006 8:52:57 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Flavius; mystery-ak; JustPiper


3 posted on 12/08/2006 9:07:21 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
Cline said that when the SWAT officers had a clear shot, they opened fire. It was about a 45-yard shot taken with a sniper rifle, he said, and the bullet fatally wounded the suspect.

Nice shooting officer.

4 posted on 12/08/2006 9:09:45 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: STARWISE

Aw, how terrible! Prayers up for the victims & their families.


5 posted on 12/08/2006 9:10:48 PM PST by Peace4EarthNow
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To: Flavius
It was about a 45-yard shot taken with a sniper rifle, he said, and the bullet fatally wounded the suspect.

45 yards? That is a BIG building!

6 posted on 12/08/2006 9:13:28 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: COEXERJ145; Brad's Gramma

I'll say .. now, that's a good sniper, right on the mark when needed. God bless him.


7 posted on 12/08/2006 9:15:54 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE
Meanwhile, in an Iraqi newspaper, the headline reads:

Many Iraqis wonder if Chicago is ready for democracy.

/sorry, I couldn't resist

God help these poor souls - unbelievable.

8 posted on 12/08/2006 9:22:31 PM PST by NordP (America Votes: Turns out there ARE more Punks than Patriots ! ....so sad)
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To: STARWISE
When the emperor decrees that the serfs shall have no means to defend themselves, this is what happens.
9 posted on 12/08/2006 9:23:24 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: STARWISE

FYI, the law firm where the shooting took place handled patents and trademarks for big corporations. That at least is according to one of the local news reports, from ABC 7 I think. I'm gonna take a flyer and say this was a disgruntled inventor angry, justifiably or not, that some big shot lawyer screwed him over.


10 posted on 12/08/2006 9:24:37 PM PST by mckreck
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To: mckreck

Well .. he got his wish. The lawyer's dead, and thanks to a great sniper .. so is he. I'll be anxious to learn the details .. nothing that I've seen released. You? I missed the local news.


11 posted on 12/08/2006 9:26:29 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

Prayers for the victims.

Somebody should have told the shooter that handguns are illegal in Chicago.


12 posted on 12/08/2006 9:27:40 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: Flavius

It would be ridiculous to use a 50 cal sniper rifle for a 45 yard shot in an urban environment.


13 posted on 12/08/2006 9:35:26 PM PST by Praxeas (Essayons)
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To: STARWISE

We feel he did have previous encounters with the individuals in that office," said Police Superintendent Phil Cline, without being more specific about the motive.

Once inside the gunman opened fire, wounding two people fatally. He had taken a hostage and chained a door when a police sniper shot down a hallway, striking the gunman from 45 feet away.

"There were at least another 25 to 30 people on the floor and I think the Chicago police officer -- SWAT -- saved those people's lives," said Cline.

He said the gunman may have shot himself as well, but an autopsy would have to show which was the fatal wound.


14 posted on 12/08/2006 9:36:10 PM PST by kcvl
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To: STARWISE

None of the dead victims, all men, or the gunman were identified. A fourth victim, a woman, was shot and taken to the hospital in serious condition. The hostage was unharmed, police said.

The Medical Examiner's office said the shooter was in his 60s. The dead victims included men ages 65 and 58, while the age of the third dead victim was unknown, the Medical Examiner's office said.


15 posted on 12/08/2006 9:41:57 PM PST by kcvl
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""There were at least another 25 to 30 people on the floor and I think the Chicago police officer -- SWAT -- saved those people's lives," said Cline."

Yeah, yeah Cline. If folks in chicago were allowed to defend themselves, it's unlikely your platoon would have been needed and there's a good possibility only the perp would've gone down.

16 posted on 12/08/2006 9:51:15 PM PST by spunkets
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To: mckreck; kcvl; VeniVidiVici; AlaskaErik; All
A man chained shut the doors of a downtown law office Friday, then fatally shot three men and held another person hostage before he was shot by a police sharpshooter.

The assault on an upper floor of the Citigroup Center, 500 W. Madison St., put the Ogilvie Transportation Center on lockdown below and stranded commuters there for much of the afternoon rush.

A man chained shut the doors of a downtown law office Friday, then fatally shot three men and held another person hostage before he was shot by a police sharpshooter.

The assault on an upper floor of the Citigroup Center, 500 W. Madison St., put the Ogilvie Transportation Center on lockdown below and stranded commuters there for much of the afternoon rush.

Sources said they believed the shooter was a disgruntled former client of the attorney he had asked to see. The attorney, who leased space in the offices of intellectual property law firm Wood, Phillips, Katz, Clark & Mortimer, was one of the men slain, according to sources.

The gunman also killed a Wood Phillips attorney and another employee of the firm, the sources said. Another person, a woman, was shot in the foot and was being treated at a Chicago hospital Friday.

Police accounts of the killing shifted slightly through the evening.

Late Friday, police said the man drew a gun and ordered a security guard to take him up to the law offices. Earlier, police had said he brought the weapon into the law office secreted inside a manila envelope.

Police said the gunman—wearing a denim jacket, gray denim pants and an overcoat—arrived just before 3:15 p.m. He was armed with a snub-nosed revolver, a knife and a short-handled sledgehammer.

"Over the next several minutes, he shot four victims," said police Supt. Philip Cline.

The gunman held another man hostage for most of the next hour, until police SWAT team members shot the assailant in a tense hostage standoff in which the assailant may also have shot himself, Cline said. The gunman died at the scene.

A fourth shooting victim, a 57-year-old woman, was treated at Rush University Medical Center. The hostage was not harmed.

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Cline declined to identify the victims but said the suspect killed the man he had come to see.

Sources said the target of the attack was a 58-year-old lawyer who rented office space at Wood Phillips. He is the father of a Chicago police officer.He had practiced law for three decades, concentrating in patent law for the last 17 years, and was himself an inventor, according to his law firm's Web site.

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Rest at link.

17 posted on 12/08/2006 10:06:56 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: All

Cline said that when the SWAT officers had a clear shot, they opened fire. It was about a 45-yard shot taken with a sniper rifle, he said.


18 posted on 12/08/2006 10:10:42 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: NordP

On another note, Kofi Annan has requested that Chicago be included in Mideast talks.


19 posted on 12/08/2006 11:55:11 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: VeniVidiVici

This event did not happen doncha know?

Like you said...handguns are illegal in Chicago and we certainly know these laws are effective /sarc.


20 posted on 12/09/2006 12:01:53 AM PST by scatterometer
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To: taxesareforever

There were several fatal shootings in Chicago today but this happens everyday in the city of "no handguns"



21 posted on 12/09/2006 12:29:25 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: STARWISE
"Four people, including the gunman, have died after a shooting at a skyscraper..."

Was the skyscraper ok?

22 posted on 12/09/2006 1:19:58 AM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: STARWISE

When I heard they did not identify the shooter I was afraid it was connected to the jihadi incident as part of a larger plot, but after seeing the rest of the facts of this story it appears not to be the case


23 posted on 12/09/2006 1:55:36 AM PST by ConservativeJen
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To: STARWISE
How could this happen? There's no concealed carry law in Illinois. How could this guy be carrying around a gun? I just don't understand. /sarc.
24 posted on 12/09/2006 2:52:43 AM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: STARWISE
"The offender then displayed a handgun..."

But how is that possible? Handguns are banned in Chicago! /s

Gun bans have once again been proven ineffective. Prayers to the victims and their families.

25 posted on 12/09/2006 7:10:27 AM PST by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: STARWISE

Even before I read the story I had a hunch that this incident happened at a law office.


26 posted on 12/09/2006 7:12:43 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: mckreck

--I'm gonna take a flyer and say this was a disgruntled inventor angry, justifiably or not, that some big shot lawyer screwed him over.--

More likely a guy with a loose screw who thought he'd been screwed over.


27 posted on 12/09/2006 7:51:15 AM PST by bkepley
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To: STARWISE

Followup:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/166645,CST-NWS-shoot09.article

The gunman, identified by police Saturday as Joe Jackson, 59, of the 5900 block of West Chicago.

The Victims are:
Michael R. McKenna, a 58-year-old Edgewater patent attorney who rented space from the firm.

Allen J. Hoover, 65, of Wilmette, a partner at Wood Phillips.

Paul Goodson, 78, a retired school teacher who worked for the law firm in the afternoons, distributing mail and handling deliveries.

Apparent Motive:
The shooter was angry over what he thought was the theft of what a source called “a toilet seat in a truck,".


28 posted on 12/09/2006 11:00:22 AM PST by Petruchio (* Censored *)
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To: bkepley

Screw over not the screw that is loose.


29 posted on 12/09/2006 11:54:56 AM PST by mckreck
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To: Flavius

Running for the Dumbest Comment prize?


30 posted on 12/09/2006 11:57:44 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: AlaskaErik

What "Emperor" would you be referring to? Laws in this nation are made by the People's representatives so presumably the Emperor is the People.


31 posted on 12/09/2006 11:59:26 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: spunkets

So there is competition for the Dumbest Comment award I see.

I'm sure fifty unskilled people opening fire would have produced NO unwarranted casualities.


32 posted on 12/09/2006 12:01:41 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: ConservativeJen

What "jihad incident" are you speaking of?


33 posted on 12/09/2006 12:03:52 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

no need

your ha ing a fine go at it


34 posted on 12/09/2006 12:12:18 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"So there is competition for the Dumbest Comment award I see.
I'm sure fifty unskilled people opening fire would have produced NO unwarranted casualities."

That's a typical comment the tyrant's apologists toss out. Wave your hands and cry chaos and panic. That's your way.

MOLON LABE.

35 posted on 12/09/2006 12:26:17 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Quite the contrary it is YOU who is panicking, waving your hands and calling chaos.

This should have never come to that since most big buildings here have been locked down since 9/11.

However, your ideas might result in the slaughter of more Yahoos than innocents as they produce a circular fire on each other while the others dive under their desks.

Or is it your belief that the mere possession of a firearm produces intelligence?

And which "tyrant" are you howling about anyway?


36 posted on 12/09/2006 8:14:48 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Flavius

Illiterate and clever what a combo.


37 posted on 12/09/2006 8:15:28 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Petruchio

You gotta give him credit. He did kill his intended target. He did kill another attorney. How sad that the retired school teacher got in the way during the melee. Most wackos take hostages and only end up dying by themselves. At least he accomplished his goal. As much as people want to mock and make fun of him -- he accomplished what he went there to do -- assasinate who he thought was responsible for his troubles and die himself. What a useless life.


38 posted on 12/09/2006 8:29:28 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

still not as dense as you


39 posted on 12/09/2006 8:46:38 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"However, your ideas might result in the slaughter of more Yahoos than innocents as they produce a circular fire on each other while the others dive under their desks.

I don't think so at all. CCW holders generally practice, retain their composure and are on target. Not that many people have them, or would have them, so your idea that there'd be shots going everywhere is pointless.

"Or is it your belief that the mere possession of a firearm produces intelligence?" Mere possession? I practice, so do other CCW holders.

"Quite the contrary it is YOU who is panicking, waving your hands and calling chaos."

Nah. It's grabbers that do that. They have no evidence. They simply invent stuff and like, "circles of fire".

"And which "tyrant" are you howling about anyway?"

Daley and Cline. Don't tell me they were elected, because elections don't justify breaking the 2nd Amend, or denying folks effective self defense. Most folks would have a gun, because they're afraid of them. Daley and his grabbers pals play on that fear, causing it to spread. They'll be doing a blood dance over this one too.

40 posted on 12/09/2006 8:49:41 PM PST by spunkets
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To: justshutupandtakeit
What "Emperor" would you be referring to? Laws in this nation are made by the People's representatives so presumably the Emperor is the People.

Emperor Daley.

41 posted on 12/09/2006 11:37:38 PM PST by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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