Posted on 12/09/2006 12:55:56 PM PST by Kaslin
Forty years ago, Sgt. Silvestre Reyes was a helicopter crew chief flying dangerous combat missions in South Vietnam from the top of a soaring rocky outcrop near the sea called Marble Mountain.
After the war, it turned out that the communist Viet Cong had tunneled into the hill and built a combat hospital right beneath the skids of Reyes’ UH-1 Huey gunship.
Now the five-term Texas Democrat, 62, is facing similar unpleasant surprises about the enemy, this time as the incoming chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
That’s because, like a number of his colleagues and top counterterrorism officials that I’ve interviewed over the past several months, Reyes can’t answer some fundamental questions about the powerful forces arrayed against us in the Middle East.
It begs the question, of course: How can the Intelligence Committee do effective oversight of U.S. spy agencies when its leaders don’t know basics about the battlefield?
To his credit, Reyes, a kindly, thoughtful man who also sits on the Armed Service Committee, does see the undertows drawing the region into chaos.
For example, he knows that the 1,400- year-old split in Islam between Sunnis and Shiites not only fuels the militias and death squads in Iraq, it drives the competition for supremacy across the Middle East between Shiite Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia.
That’s more than two key Republicans on the Intelligence Committee knew when I interviewed them last summer. Rep. Jo Ann Davis, R-Va., and Terry Everett, R-Ala., both back for another term, were flummoxed by such basic questions, as were several top counterterrorism officials at the FBI.
I thought it only right now to pose the same questions to a Democrat, especially one who will take charge of the Intelligence panel come January. The former border patrol agent also sits on the Armed Services Committee.
Reyes stumbled when I asked him a simple question about al Qaeda at the end of a 40-minute interview in his office last week. Members of the Intelligence Committee, mind you, are paid $165,200 a year to know more than basic facts about our foes in the Middle East.
We warmed up with a long discussion about intelligence issues and Iraq. And then we veered into terrorism’s major players.
To me, it’s like asking about Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland: Who’s on what side?
The dialogue went like this:
Al Qaeda is what, I asked, Sunni or Shia?
“Al Qaeda, they have both,” Reyes said. “You’re talking about predominately?”
“Sure,” I said, not knowing what else to say.
“Predominantly — probably Shiite,” he ventured.
He couldn’t have been more wrong.
Al Qaeda is profoundly Sunni. If a Shiite showed up at an al Qaeda club house, they’d slice off his head and use it for a soccer ball.
That’s because the extremist Sunnis who make up a l Qaeda consider all Shiites to be heretics.
Al Qaeda’s Sunni roots account for its very existence. Osama bin Laden and his followers believe the Saudi Royal family besmirched the true faith through their corruption and alliance with the United States, particularly allowing U.S. troops on Saudi soil.
It’s been five years since these Muslim extremists flew hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center.
Is it too much to ask that our intelligence overseers know who they are?
Civil War
And Hezbollah? I asked him. What are they?
“Hezbollah. Uh, Hezbollah...”
He laughed again, shifting in his seat.
“Why do you ask me these questions at five o’clock? Can I answer in Spanish? Do you speak Spanish?”
“Pocito,” I said—a little.
“Pocito?! “ He laughed again.
“Go ahead,” I said, talk to me about Sunnis and Shia in Spanish.
Reyes: “Well, I, uh....”
I apologized for putting him “on the spot a little.” But I reminded him that the people who have killed thousands of Americans on U.S. soil and in the Middle East have been front page news for a long time now.
It’s been 23 years since a Hezbollah suicide bomber killed over 200 U.S. military personnel in Beirut, mostly Marines.
Hezbollah, a creature of Iran, is close to taking over in Lebanon. Reports say they are helping train Iraqi Shiites to kill Sunnis in the spiralling civil war.
“Yeah,” Reyes said, rightly observing, “but . . . it’s not like the Hatfields and the McCoys. It’s a heck of a lot more complex.
“And I agree with you — we ought to expend some effort into understanding them. But speaking only for myself, it’s hard to keep things in perspective and in the categories.”
Reyes is not alone.
The best argument for needing to understand who’s what in the Middle East is probably the mistaken invasion itself, despite the preponderance of expert opinion that it was a terrible idea — including that of Bush’s father and his advisers. On the day in 2003 when Iraqi mobs toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad, Bush was said to be unaware of the possibility that a Sunni-Shia civil war could fill the power vacuum, according to a reliable source with good White House connections.
If President Bush and some of his closest associates, not to mention top counterterrorism officials, have demonstrated their own ignorance about who the players are in the Middle East, why should we expect the leaders of the House Intelligence Committee to get it right?
Trent Lott, the veteran Republican senator from Mississippi, said only last September that “It’s hard for Americans, all of us, including me, to understand what’s wrong with these people.”
“Why do they kill people of other religions because of religion?” wondered Lott, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, after a meeting with Bush.
“Why do they hate the Israelis and despise their right to exist? Why do they hate each other? Why do Sunnis kill Shiites? How do they tell the difference?
“They all look the same to me,” Lott said.
Haunting
The administration’s disinterest in the Arab world has rattled down the chain of command.
Only six people in the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad are fluent in Arabic, according to last week’s report of the Iraq Study Group. Only about two dozen of the embassy’s thousand employees have some familiarity with the language, the report said.
The Iraq Study Group was amazed to find that, despite spending $2 billion on Iraq in 2006, more wasn’t being done to try “to understand the people who fabricate, plant and explode roadside bombs.”
Rare is the military unit with an American soldier who can read a captured document or interrogate a prisoner, my own sources tell me.
It was that way in Vietnam, too, Reyes says, which “haunts us.”
“If you substitute Arabization for Vietnamization, if you substitute . . . our guys going in and taking over a place then leaving it and the bad guys come back in. . . .”
He trails off, despairing.
“I could draw many more analogies.”
Yet Reyes says he favors sending more troops there.
“If it’s going to target the militias and eliminate them, I think that’s a worthwhile investment,” he said.
It’s hard to find anybody in Iraq who thinks the U.S. can do that.
On “a temporary basis, I’m willing to ramp them up by twenty or thirty thousand . . . for, I don’t know, two months, four months, six months — but certainly that would be an exception,” Reyes said.
Meanwhile, the killing is going on below decks, too, within Sunni and Shiite groups and factions.
Anybody who pays serious attention to Iraq knows that.
Reyes says his first hearings come January will focus on how U.S. intelligence can do a better job helping the troops in Iraq.
It may be way too late for that.
“Stop giving me tests!” Reyes exclaimed, half kidding.
“I’m not going to talk to you any more!”
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Well idiotic democrats are in no danger from Islamo-nazi
terror so why should they give a big fat rats a**?
"Reyes can’t answer some fundamental questions about the powerful forces arrayed against us in the Middle East."
Jane Harmon would have been just fine (for a Dem, anyhow)as the Chair, now that the election is over. Problem is Pelosi feels threatened by her patriotism and looks. Pelosi is into so much dirty politics, maybe just maybe she herself could be impeached.
IN THE PARTY OF GOD: Hezbollah sets up operations in South America and the United States.
Maybe one of his staff members can translate the article into Spanish, if need be ...
He is replacing an peter hoekstra who knew about the middle east.
But the american people got change and after all change is great.
This goes to show you what a liberal media can turn this country into.
If a republican didn't know who hezbollah was or al queda was shiite it would be front page story.
But the dems can do anything.
I think it is fair to say that america is now far left.
The american people put these bafoons in power no matter how bad they were because they wanted change. They made nancy pelosi speaker and she picked reyes to please the hispanic community.
The american electorate follows what the media say. There is no democracy in our country.
And can republicans stop electing blue dogs who put pelosi in power to pick fools like this.
Harman would have been soooo much better. Part of the problem is that she is truly moderate... which is "right wing" by Pelousy's standards.
Amen and Amen.
Do you remember how AlGore mocked him days later?
But I suppose now that the Dems are in charge they'll be given a pass no matter what stupidity they demonstrate in public.
I certainly hope there's a video of this interview. I'd pay till it hurt to see it widely distributed.
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Rare is the military unit with an American soldier who can read a captured document or interrogate a prisoner, my own sources tell me.
It was that way in Vietnam, too, Reyes says, which “haunts us.”
"To his credit, Reyes, a kindly, thoughtful man who also sits on the Armed Service Committee, does see the undertows drawing the region into chaos."
We have no need for kindly thoughtful men - we have enough of them already. They are called the PC crowd. Oh God, give us a leader who, when he walks, a loud sound like CLANG!, CLANG!, CLANG! comes out of his pants for the entire world to hear.
Congressman Silvestre Reyes, now in his fifth term, became the first Hispanic to represent the 16th District of Texas in the U.S. House of Representatives in 1996.
Silvestre Reyes, voted against building the 700 mile border fence.
That's the thing. Al Queda is not Shiia. It is complicated and their has been a deliberate effort by the Saudis to confuse things even further. Their motivation for the confusion is to keep us asleep a little longer. When we wake up to the global nature of Jihad we may begin to effectively fight back.
Knowledge is power.
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9 posted on 12/01/2006 9:02:21 PM PST by Cindy
But as long as his head is spinning maybe he won't be able to speak or legislate; that's a good thing.
(And speaking Spanish was a neat trick -- in the 2000 election. It's pocito played out, now.)
This is beyond frightening. Wake up America!
This is no surprise. the democrats havent got a clue as to what has been going on, They have been so busy tormenting President Bush they havent tried to learn. Now that they have it in their hands they havent got a clue.
The new chair of Intel voted to leave the southern U.S. border (such as it is) open.
NOT a good thing.
Giving Reyes the chairmanship of the Intelligence committee is the same as throwing bullets into the fire. You know it will eventually hurt you, but you don't know when. Pelosi did a real dumbassed move on this guy, and it will kill a lot of our fellow citizens due to her stupidity. I hope we all remember Nancy's payback to Jane Harmon as Pelosi isn't the brightest crayon in the demorats' box, but playing with our national security is beyond the pale.
Well..I would like this guy to give the same test to the NEW Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee..Rockefeller..
He comes across as dumb as a box o rox....but, he also comes across as corrupt.
HE is the one that will use his position to try to bring down Cheney and Pres. Bush...he also is guilty of telling Syria and other countries in the region that we were going to invade Iraq..before Pres. Bush ever announced it..
Certainly in enough time for Syria to get with Saddam and hide the WMDs...but, this is the dumb part....he told what he did on national TV..bragged about it.
You are so right!
bump for later
This osnot simply a Shia/ Sunni thing. The problem is also Arab/non-Arab.
The Kurds are, after all, Sunni. So are the Turks. The People of Syria are mainly sunni, but they are run by a Shia governbment. The ethnic complicity of the Middle East is something that our fearless leaders should become aware of.
This osnot simply a Shia/ Sunni thing. The problem is also Arab/non-Arab.
The Kurds are, after all, Sunni. So are the Turks. The People of Syria are mainly sunni, but they are run by a Shia governbment. The ethnic complicity of the Middle East is something that our fearless leaders should become aware of.
It would not surprise me if they are going to get rid of Homeland security and the Patriot Act. Or at least try to
Proves with enough money or support anyone can run for office and then get on important committees and eventually run those committees and still have no clue about the subject matter at hand. Then they have the audacity to throw blame at the President when our country is attacked.
Especially when you consider he WAS a border control agent. Makes me wonder how many walked in right past him?
On the day in 2003 when Iraqi mobs toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad, Bush was said to be unaware of the possibility that a Sunni-Shia civil war could fill the power vacuum, according to a reliable source with good White House connections. If President Bush and some of his closest associates, not to mention top counterterrorism officials, have demonstrated their own ignorance about who the players are in the Middle East, why should we expect the leaders of the House Intelligence Committee to get it right?Hey, this sounds like the soft bigotry of low expectations!
Thanks for the ping, La Dita~~!!
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Thanks for the links, Cindy!
I have to wonder if these rats are not told exactly how to vote, and therefore they feel no need to get up to speed on the issues.
Makes me think of the old story of the rats following the Piper into destruction. We are indeed, in deep trouble.
The report of that Committee was the most stupid thing I ever heard of.
It is hard to believe that so called intelligent men could have written it. If I were James baker i would go into hiding--it was that bad.
Doesn't matter
The democrats have their cover now
There you go again, with that sharp memory of yours. Rockefeller should have been drawn and quartered.
Good point, Pepper. Spoon-feedin' is all the DUmmies need and they are content...
That would be good because Bush would simply veto any such idiocy.
I believe the RATs are going to be much smarter than that.
Reyes has an AA degree from a community college and has taken a few classes at U.T., so you get what you pay for.
In spite of this hit piece and the sentiment here for Harmon I am not that concerned about this choice since I do not share the regard for Harmon expressed by others. She has never impressed me as being any but another well-tanned Democrat more concerned with being slick than anything else.
Reyes is not your typical Congressman lawyer and has served in Vietnam so his coming form a lower class background is not all bad. His district is not made up of those who think like the Elites.
If President Bush and some of his closest associates, not to mention top counterterrorism officials, have demonstrated their own ignorance about who the players are in the Middle East, why should we expect the leaders of the House Intelligence Committee to get it right?
While this article seems to make a good point about the new Dem to be in charge and his lack of knowledge, I will not accept another anonymous source that purports proof that Bush's war planners (Rummy, Franks etc.) had no knowledge or made no consideration for the possible strife between the vaious Islamic factions. How those reactions played out is another story but to claim a pure ignorance about this is simply unproved by the anonymous sourcing this writer utilizes.
It's Jane HarMAN. I live in her district; she would have been the far better choice. She is not slick, but knowledgeable. Her sin has been that Democrat colleagues have seen her as too "pro-Bush" or not enough "anti-Bush" for their liking.
It's called D.C. politics, so we get this dangerous dummy Reyes instead.
You're welcome Pepper 777.
Kill them all. Let God sort them out.
Fixed it.
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You're blaming the Saudis for this? They do "diplomacy" all of the time, but if they've tried to confuse me as to Al Queda being Sunni, they've done a particularly poor job.
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