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ISG must stand for, uh, Inane Strategy Guesswork (Mark Steyn Nails The Illustrious Seniors Group)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 12/10/2006 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 12/10/2006 2:22:58 AM PST by goldstategop

Well, the ISG -- the Illustrious Seniors' Group -- has released its 79-point plan. How unprecedented is it? Well, it seems Iraq is to come under something called the "Iraq International Support Group." If only Neville Chamberlain had thought to propose a "support group" for Czechoslovakia, he might still be in office. Or guest-hosting for Oprah. But, alas, such flashes of originality are few and far between in what's otherwise a testament to conventional wisdom. How conventional is the ISG's conventional wisdom? Try page 49:

"RECOMMENDATION 5: The Support Group should consist of Iraq and all the states bordering Iraq, including Iran and Syria . . ."

Er, OK. I suppose that's what you famously hardheaded "realists" mean by realism. But wait, we're not done yet. For this "Support Group," we need the extra-large function room. Aside from Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Kuwait, the ISG -- the Iraq Surrender Gran'pas -- want also to invite:

". . . the key regional states, including Egypt and the Gulf States . . ."

Er, OK. So it's basically an Arab League meeting. Not a "Support Group" I'd want to look for support from, but each to his own. But wait, Secretary Baker's still warming up:

". . . the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council . . ."

That would be America, Britain, France, Russia, China. A diverse quintet, representing many distinctive approaches to international affairs from stylish hauteur to polonium-210. Anybody else?

". . . the European Union . . ."

Hey, why not? It's not really multilateral unless there's a Belgian on board, right? Oh, and let's not forget:

". . . the Support Group should call on the participation of the United Nations Secretary-General in its work. The United Nations Secretary-General should designate a Special Envoy as his representative . . ."

Indeed. But it needs to be someone with real clout, like Benon Sevan, the former head of the Oil for Food Program, who recently, ah, stepped down; or Maurice Strong, the Under-Secretary-General for U.N. Reform and godfather of Kyoto, who for one reason or another is presently on a, shall we say, leave of absence; or Alexander Yakovlev, the senior procurement officer for U.N. peacekeeping, who also finds himself under indictment -- er, I mean under-employed. There's no end of top-class talent at the U.N., now that John Bolton's been expelled from its precincts.

So there you have it: an Iraq "Support Group" that brings together the Arab League, the European Union, Iran, Russia, China and the U.N. And with support like that who needs lack of support? It worked in Darfur, where the international community reached unanimous agreement on the urgent need to rent a zeppelin to fly over the beleaguered region trailing a big banner emblazoned "YOU'RE SCREWED." For Dar4.1, they can just divert it to Baghdad.

Oh, but lest you think there are no minimum admission criteria to James Baker's "Support Group," relax, it's a very restricted membership: Arabs, Persians, Chinese commies, French obstructionists, Russian assassination squads. But no Jews. Even though Israel is the only country to be required to make specific concessions -- return the Golan Heights, etc. Indeed, insofar as this document has any novelty value, it's in the Frankenstein-meets-the-Wolfman sense of a boffo convergence of hit franchises: a Vietnam bug-out, but with the Jews as the designated fall guys. Wow. That's what Hollywood would call "high concept."

Why would anyone -- even a short-sighted incompetent political fixer whose brilliant advice includes telling the first Bush that no one would care if he abandoned the "Read my lips" pledge -- why would even he think it a smart move to mortgage Iraq's future to anything as intractable as the Palestinian "right of return"? And, incidentally, how did that phrase -- "the right of return" -- get so carelessly inserted into a document signed by two former secretaries of state, two former senators, a former attorney general, Supreme Court judge, defense secretary, congressman, etc. These are by far the most prominent Americans ever to legitimize a concept whose very purpose is to render any Zionist entity impossible. I'm not one of those who assumes that just because much of James Baker's post-government career has been so lavishly endowed by the Saudis that he must necessarily be a wholly owned subsidiary of King Abdullah, but it's striking how this document frames all the issues within the pathologies of the enemy.

And that's before we get to Iran and Syria. So tough-minded and specific when it comes to the Israelis, Baker turns to mush when it comes to Assad assassinating his way through Lebanon's shrinking Christian community or Ahmadinejad and the mullahs painting the finish trim on the Iranian nukes. Syria, declare the Surrender Gran'pas, "should control its border with Iraq." Gee, who'dda thunk o' that other than these geniuses?

Actually, Syria doesn't need to "control its border with Iraq." Iraq needs to control its border with Syria. And, as long as the traffic's all one way (because Syria's been allowed to subvert Iraq with impunity for three years), that suits Assad just fine. The Surrender Gran'pas assert that Iran and Syria have "an interest in avoiding chaos in Iraq." This, to put it mildly, is news to the Iranians and Syrians, who have concluded that what's in their interest is much more chaos in Iraq. For a start, the Americans get blamed for it, which reduces America's influence in the broader Middle East, not least among Iran and Syria's opposition movements. Furthermore, the fact that they're known to be fomenting the chaos gives the mullahs, Assad and their proxies tremendous credibility in the rest of the Muslim world. James Baker has achieved the perfect reductio ad absurdum of diplomatic self-adulation: he's less rational than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

If they're lucky, this document will be tossed in the trash and these men and women will be the laughingstocks of posterity. But, if it's not shredded and we embark down this path, then the Baker group will be emblematic of something far worse. The "Support Group" is a "peace conference," and Baker wants Washington to sue for terms. No wonder Syria is already demanding concessions from America. Which is the superpower and which is the third-rate basket-case state? From the Middle Eastern and European press coverage of the Baker group, it's kinda hard to tell.


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Mark Steyn nailed Washington's senior dotages and their inane 79 point guesswork of a strategy. America should sue for terminal exhaustion. Its hard to tell if this country is a superpower or a third-rate basket case. How very apopros!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

1 posted on 12/10/2006 2:23:04 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
Best Mark Steyn Tag Of 2006:

Surrender Grandpas!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 12/10/2006 2:30:44 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. - 1 Corinthians 1:19

(Note: I don't 'quote' often, but this seems to be a perfect fit for the situation...)

3 posted on 12/10/2006 2:36:27 AM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army 1967-1991 Infantry OCS, Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning Ga.)
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To: Van Jenerette
And in the Hebrew Bible, you find the answer: "The beginning of wisdom begins with the awe of God." Not with these elderly gerontocrats in Washington - they're certifiable fools.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

4 posted on 12/10/2006 2:39:22 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

" James Baker has achieved the perfect reductio ad absurdum of diplomatic self-adulation: he's less rational than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. "

Yet another "The Emperor has no clothes!" moment from Mr. Steyn.

Has anybody noticed, by the bye, that Mr. Baker is serving a somewhat serendipitous function in this aftermath of the ISG Report -- he's shielding Lee Hamilton from the loud, long, and public scorn he so rightly deserves.


5 posted on 12/10/2006 2:44:11 AM PST by Uncle Ike ("Tripping over the lines connecting all of the dots"... [FReeper Pinz-n-needlez])
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To: goldstategop

Only in Washington DC would you form a Congressional Commission and include not a single retired military officer with Counter Insurgency expereince or any Arab-Persian Political/Cultural Regional Expert on the panel.

Some where the ghost of LBJ is laughing his butt off watching another bunch of DC policy geeks and Beltway insiders trying to micromanage a war from 9,000 miles away


6 posted on 12/10/2006 2:45:46 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Iraq Study Group (ISG)= REMFs


7 posted on 12/10/2006 2:47:45 AM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army 1967-1991 Infantry OCS, Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning Ga.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Only in Washington would you still behave like its 1947 and make sure the "f*cking Jews" were kept out of the corridors of power.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

8 posted on 12/10/2006 2:47:45 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Wonderfully accurate. What concessions has Syria demanded?


9 posted on 12/10/2006 2:48:55 AM PST by patj
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To: patj
You can imagine: call off the UN investigation into Sonny Assad's murders of prominent Lebanese, turn a blind eye to Syria's rearmament of Hezbollah and its subversion of Iraq. The Syrians get to pocket everything of value from America without having to give up nothing in return. Ditto for the Iranians.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

10 posted on 12/10/2006 2:52:05 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
And, incidentally, how did that phrase -- "the right of return" -- get so carelessly inserted into a document signed by two former secretaries of state, two former senators, a former attorney general, Supreme Court judge, defense secretary, congressman, etc.

Dear Mr. Steyn,

Here's how it happened. The Saudi royals wrote some really, really big checks to Mr. Bakers law firm.

Love your work,

L

11 posted on 12/10/2006 3:20:33 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: goldstategop
"A diverse quintet, representing many distinctive approaches to international affairs from stylish hauteur to polonium-210."

Priceless!
12 posted on 12/10/2006 3:21:17 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope ("Bush lied, people dyed. Their fingers." The inestimable Mark Steyn)
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To: Van Jenerette
I will destroy the wisdom of the wise

Sometimes no explanation suffices but the divine. How else can this profound idiocy be accounted for? They can't all be senile.

13 posted on 12/10/2006 3:28:25 AM PST by outofstyle
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To: MNJohnnie

Not to mention the secretary of defense during the crisis under discussion--baggage-laden or not.


14 posted on 12/10/2006 3:34:56 AM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: goldstategop

ISG = islamic Surrender Guidelines


15 posted on 12/10/2006 3:38:26 AM PST by ByteMercenary (9-11: supported everywhere by followers of the the cult of islam.)
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To: goldstategop

and the funniest part of the whole thing, they
are called a "Blue Ribbon Panel"

When are the beltway numbskulls going to get a clue.
OH, wait they think they have a monopoly of "clues"

Never mind, I must need another cup of coffee.


16 posted on 12/10/2006 3:41:51 AM PST by ThreePuttinDude ()...On 9-11 & 7-7 Islamic missionaries came a callin'.....()
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To: ByteMercenary
Good one! I wonder if there was something they drank in Iraq while they were there that made them take complete leave of their senses. No body could come with a plan so nonsensical, so impractical and so small-minded at the same time. Its really the reductio ad absurdum of the bureaucratic mindset, which loves to talk on about meeting requirements that are completely intangential to the issue at hand.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

17 posted on 12/10/2006 3:46:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: patj
Return of the Golan Heights is the trial balloon the DC Surrender Monkey floated. Not only NO, Not a chance in....No!
18 posted on 12/10/2006 3:50:41 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: MNJohnnie
They could have issued a one line report: Hang Ahmedinejad and Assad. That would have caught the public's imagination and galvanized the bureaucracy into action. I wonder what kept them from proposing it.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

19 posted on 12/10/2006 3:55:13 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Van Jenerette
Next time I suggest they get 10 guys with CIBs together for their Blue Ribbon Congressional Commission. Not only would it be a lot cheaper, it would be about 100% smarter.
20 posted on 12/10/2006 3:55:54 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: goldstategop
If they're lucky, this document will be tossed in the trash and these men and women will be the laughingstocks of posterity.

At least this is a great compilation of how not to deal with the situation.

Steyn nails it again...

21 posted on 12/10/2006 4:02:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: goldstategop
James Baker has achieved the perfect reductio ad absurdum of diplomatic self-adulation: he's less rational than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Bwahahahahahaha.

22 posted on 12/10/2006 4:11:01 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: goldstategop
It disturbs me to consider the possibility, but consider it I must, that at some point there will be (or perhaps has already been) a not so subtle nudge to President Bush from James Baker that were it not for his efforts in November/December 2000, that it could be President Al Gore finishing up his second term.

Not that I believe it was all due to Baker's assistance in Florida that the non-stop recount nonsense was finally ended, but in Baker's egomaniac mind, he may actually believe that the President 'owes' him.

Hence, the 'Surrender Gran'Pas' want THEIRS!

And when do they want it?

NOW!
23 posted on 12/10/2006 4:21:08 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: goldstategop

The tragic thing is this report gets credence in the media and the Congress (and the WH- the President was respectful to it, when we knew what was coming even before it was released). Great article. The tragedy is the US (State Dept blah blah blah) will strongly suggest Israel give up more peace. Bush is the best friend of Israel compared to other Presidents, but Condi says some disturbing things. I wish someone other than Olmert were in charge in Israel.


24 posted on 12/10/2006 4:27:40 AM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: goldstategop

I'm confused! Are there 79 points to this report or is 79 the average age of the group that produced the report?


25 posted on 12/10/2006 4:29:19 AM PST by SMM48
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To: goldstategop

ISG = Inane Self-Gratification = Mental Masturbation


26 posted on 12/10/2006 4:46:12 AM PST by T-Bird45
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To: goldstategop
See also, from pookie18's Today's Toons 12/4/06:


27 posted on 12/10/2006 4:50:02 AM PST by RonDog
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To: goldstategop
So there you have it: an Iraq "Support Group" that brings together the Arab League, the European Union, Iran, Russia, China and the U.N. And with support like that who needs lack of support?
How can it possibly fail? The "Support Group" thus constituted would have two distinct classes of members: a) those with a history of committing mass murder and b) those with a history of enabling, apologizing for or turning a blind eye towards mass murder.

Who wouldn't want to be supported by a group like that?

28 posted on 12/10/2006 4:54:10 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: goldstategop
I'm not one of those who assumes that just because much of James Baker's post-government career has been so lavishly endowed by the Saudis that he must necessarily be a wholly owned subsidiary of King Abdullah, but it's striking how this document frames all the issues within the pathologies of the enemy.
I assume it, and have for a long time. Baker is a bought-and-sold Saudi agent (though he's probably too brick-stupid to be able to face that fact to himself). I don't know what motivates the other senility-prone nitwits in the "group", other than plain garden-variety treason-for-the-sake-of-trendiness, but I have a very strong opinion that Bush I and his cadaver clique have long been motivated by their strong links to the House of Saud.
29 posted on 12/10/2006 4:59:19 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: goldstategop

"Only in Washington would you still behave like its 1947 and make sure the "f*cking Jews" were kept out of the corridors of power."

and from the context of the study report... baker states ....the whole iraq problem is the fault of the "f*cking Jews"...if they give up the golan heights...everything will over there will be just peachy...

baker has become another antisemetic a-hole...the likes of which are exemplified by the worst president in US history...jimmah carter!!!!


30 posted on 12/10/2006 5:04:58 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: MNJohnnie
Some where the ghost of LBJ is laughing his butt off

If there's any justice in the universe at all, that somewhere is Hell.

31 posted on 12/10/2006 5:05:11 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: MNJohnnie
Only in Washington DC would you form a Congressional Commission and include not a single retired military officer
It would be like forming a commission to study some big city high-crime problem and include only defense lawyers and paroled prisoners.
32 posted on 12/10/2006 5:06:45 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: PghBaldy
I wish someone other than Olmert were in charge in Israel.
The Israeli's would be smart to read the handwriting-on-the-wall that the ISG represents and dump their own Mr. Appeaser and put a Leader back in charge.
33 posted on 12/10/2006 5:11:19 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: RonDog

Great Toon. But actually, Steyn said on the O'Reilly show that this report isn't exactly Cut And Run, it's more like Chat And Run.


34 posted on 12/10/2006 5:13:04 AM PST by samtheman (The Democrats are the DhimmiGods of the New Religion of PC)
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To: goldstategop
I'm not one of those who assumes that just because much of James Baker's post-government career has been so lavishly endowed by the Saudis that he must necessarily be a wholly owned subsidiary of King Abdullah,

I am.

but it's striking how this document frames all the issues within the pathologies of the enemy.

Spot on. Baker is a coward, among other things.

35 posted on 12/10/2006 5:13:43 AM PST by prairiebreeze (Unapologetically Celebrating the Birth of Christ!!)
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To: Lurker
Here's how it happened. The Saudi royals wrote some really, really big checks to Mr. Bakers law firm.

The media really does not seem interested at all in asking if Mr. Baker might be biased or influenced. They haven't the slightest curiosity about Baker and his Saudi friends.

36 posted on 12/10/2006 5:15:56 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: goldstategop
The more one reads the recommendations the worse it gets.

RECOMMENDATION 26: Constitution review. Review of the constitution is essential to national reconciliation and should be pursued on an urgent basis. The United Nations has expertise in this field, and should play a role in this process.

Doesn't this just make you want to start pulling your hair out?
37 posted on 12/10/2006 5:17:24 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: goldstategop; All
Mark Steyn is a rare and to treasured item.
Pity he cannot be the holder of high office; any high office where the only criteria is sound judgement and unfailing common sense.

Not to be wasted as a communications this, or press secretary that, but a position of substance. Maybe
"Deputy National Security Advisor for Having Your Crap Together".
Or "Special Assistant Secretary for NOT Screwing the Pooch".
38 posted on 12/10/2006 5:27:36 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell
The media really does not seem interested at all in asking if Mr. Baker might be biased or influenced. They haven't the slightest curiosity about Baker and his Saudi friends.

Just remember this. It's only politicians who have to report receiving money from foreign nationals. Members of the media and more importantly those who own those media outlets are under no such legal requirements.

Plus if the dunderheads 'working' in the Legacy Media made too much noise about the Saudi connection they'd lose their all important 'access'.

Think CNN and their absolutely criminal defense of Husseins regime in order to 'protect' their Baghdad Bureau.

L

39 posted on 12/10/2006 5:30:06 AM PST by Lurker (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)
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To: hnj_00; All
Baker has NOT "become". He ALWAYS was.
Even a cursory peek at his history shows that very clearly.
A friend to the Bush family and their Jew Hating Albatross.
40 posted on 12/10/2006 5:31:59 AM PST by Gideon Reader ("The quiet gentleman sitting in the corner sipping Lagavulin, early in the day.)
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To: mkjessup
The Iraq Study Group is a Congressional Commission, not a Presidential Commission. Look to John McCain and the rest of the Republican Chicken Hearts in the US Senate for the source of this stupidity.
41 posted on 12/10/2006 5:36:15 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: goldstategop

We will still win this war but we are going to absorb some horrific damage before we let loose the nukes, and we will do that- when there is a Democrat in the WH with his Democrat Congress. It will be done in panic and anger, anger at the betrayal by the Democrats' allies whom the Democrats have done so much for and now the Stab In The Back as the third or fourth WMD device destroys a major portion of an American city. The will have finally realized that the perps are not just individual renegades that have eluded control by those wonderful mullahs and all the FBI work in the world is not going to do anything useful.


42 posted on 12/10/2006 5:44:28 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Gideon Reader

you are correct...jsut ask G W Bush's grandfather prescott...he was on par with carter/baker/joe kennedy!!!!


43 posted on 12/10/2006 5:46:06 AM PST by hnj_00
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To: goldstategop
If they're lucky, this document will be tossed in the trash and these men and women will be the laughingstocks of posterity

Well, we surely won't be so lucky.

The MSM and Liberals will be promoting this as the necessary "fix" for Iraq - every single hair-brained recommendation in a seamless web. It will be touted for the Iraq War as the 9/11 Commission Report is touted as the definitive document on 9/11 and the WOT, the Holy Grail of answers and solutions, until "nobody" questions it and any thinking or acting otherwise is evidence of "incompetence" and grounds for impeachment, or worse.

44 posted on 12/10/2006 5:47:15 AM PST by Gritty (The ISG Report is a Vietnam bug-out, but with the Jews as the designated fall guys - Mark Steyn)
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To: Van Jenerette

Well, it is Sunday and as long as we're quoting:

"...and women and children will lead them" Isaiah


45 posted on 12/10/2006 5:56:56 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: goldstategop

While I agree the absurdity of the ISG, tagging Baker for the "f'ing Jews" comment in light of shrillary's "f'ing Jew Bastard" as well as the shrill anti-semitism of the modern left remarkably excused by the American Jews tendency to do so much to "f" themselves, brings a red herring to an otherwise sound premise, i.e; the ISG is among the most dangerous pieces of "work" to be visited on the world in the past 100 years.


46 posted on 12/10/2006 6:03:50 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: ByteMercenary

ISG = Incredibly Stupid Group


47 posted on 12/10/2006 6:04:41 AM PST by reg45
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To: All
Not to interrupt the prison-style tag teaming of the ISG, but perhaps it's a little premature to celebrate, considering;

1. The ISG doesn't have any paths to victory.

2. The Administration doesn't either, and will likely be incoportating 'some elements' of the ISG themselves. (In the interests of bipartisanship, of course. No more than half, though. Honest. Probably. Maybe.)

So, laugh while we can. These senile old coots may outfox us all, in the end.

48 posted on 12/10/2006 6:15:51 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: samtheman

:o)


49 posted on 12/10/2006 6:23:13 AM PST by RonDog
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To: SMM48

79 is their cumulative IQ.


50 posted on 12/10/2006 6:25:09 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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