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What the Heck is a Paleoconservative and Why You Should Care
Intellectual Conservative ^ | December 8, 2006 | Dan Phillips

Posted on 12/10/2006 3:34:41 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez

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To: Luis Gonzalez

Labels are so....Neo-paleo ;'}


41 posted on 12/10/2006 10:27:37 PM PST by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: CaliGirl-R

Your Score

Your scored 2.5 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Conservatism
Variation: Economic Conservatism
Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism
US Parties: Republican Party
Presidents: Ronald Reagan (96.88%)
2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (87.12%), John Kerry (68.59%), Ralph Nader (49.90%)
Statistics

Of the 262138 people who took the test:

1.8% had the same score as you.
84.2% were above you on the chart.
4.2% were below you on the chart.
14.3% were to your right on the chart.
77.4% were to your left on the chart.


42 posted on 12/10/2006 10:46:01 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
At least the author admits that the term "paleoconservative" is a neologism for a disperate coalition, not an actual idology.
It consists of Northern Elitists, Southern Agrarians, religious populists, and atheist libertarians.

Personally, I don't consider Gottfried to be a Paleoconservative, since his reaction is not to neoconservatives but to the Franfurt School.

PS. Chronicles and the Rochford Instituite were copted by paleos 15 years before The American Dhimmi was founded by the cokehead greek shipping magnate.

43 posted on 12/11/2006 1:16:11 AM PST by rmlew (Having slit their throats may the conservatives who voted for Casey choke slowly on their blood.)
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To: CaliGirl-R

Damn I'm conservative.


44 posted on 12/11/2006 7:06:29 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: NeoCaveman

I got the same score.


45 posted on 12/11/2006 7:09:34 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: George W. Bush

I had a 5.5 on the moral order and a -7.5 on the moral rules just by clicking on "The better culture should win."


46 posted on 12/11/2006 7:11:11 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: CaliGirl-R

That was interesting. I'm an Economic Conservative (which I knew), and 71.5% were to the left of me. :)


47 posted on 12/11/2006 7:14:56 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: outofstyle
Jack Kemp called it "Big tent Conservatism." Now the big tent is often used as a pejorative. I think we need to get back to this. We need to be as inclusive as possible without selling out on small government, low taxes, states rights and strong defense.

I agree with you wholeheartedly.

But first we have to understand that the Big Tent of the 80's is not compatible with the Revival Tent that the GOP has become.

48 posted on 12/11/2006 7:18:04 AM PST by Wormwood (Everybody is lying---but it doesn't matter because nobody is listening)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

bttt for later


49 posted on 12/11/2006 7:23:01 AM PST by TEXOKIE (Wear Red on Fridays to support the troops!!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Your Score

Your scored 0 on the Moral Order axis and -5.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Conservatism, Liberalism
Variation: Economic Conservatism, Economic Liberalism
Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism, Progressive NeoLiberalism
US Parties: Republican Party
Presidents: Ronald Reagan (90.89%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (79.63%), George W. Bush (77.79%), Ralph Nader (60.91%)
Statistics

Of the 262283 people who took the test:

0.9% had the same score as you.
79.7% were above you on the chart.
15.8% were below you on the chart.
28.5% were to your right on the chart.
59.5% were to your left on the chart.



Well I don't know how well I did or how bad I did, but it does say that Ronald Reagan would be someone I would vote for and that is good enough for me.


50 posted on 12/11/2006 7:24:51 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: CaliGirl-R

Your Score

Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -5.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

  1. System: Conservatism
  2. Variation: Economic Conservatism
  3. Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism
  4. US Parties: Republican Party
  5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (93.01%)
  6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (79.99%), John Kerry (78.12%), Ralph Nader (59.38%)

Statistics

Of the 262284 people who took the test:

  1. 0.9% had the same score as you.
  2. 79.7% were above you on the chart.
  3. 15.8% were below you on the chart.
  4. 28.5% were to your right on the chart.
  5. 59.5% were to your left on the chart.

 


Closest match with Reagan. I can live with that. (Don't know where they get the lineup with SKerry though!)
51 posted on 12/11/2006 7:28:19 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: napscoordinator

Looks like you and I were a near-identical match.


52 posted on 12/11/2006 7:33:33 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: CaliGirl-R

Your Score

Your scored 4.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Conservatism
Variation: Extreme Conservatism
Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism, Conservative NeoLiberalism
US Parties: Republican Party
Presidents: George W. Bush (90.89%)
2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (90.89%), John Kerry (60.16%), Ralph Nader (41.66%)
Statistics

Of the 262290 people who took the test:

0.3% had the same score as you.
95.8% were above you on the chart.
1.2% were below you on the chart.
8.5% were to your right on the chart.
89% were to your left on the chart.


53 posted on 12/11/2006 7:51:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: George W. Bush
I can't believe I got matched up with Bush. Bush is considered the Extreme Conservative president?

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Me too. I don't get it.

54 posted on 12/11/2006 7:53:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Wilhelm Tell

You are right about what you say. It seems like the differences have created so much hate and finger pointing. There is very little party soul searching going on, with no one really admitting they are part of the blame. It seems Republicans spend most of the time hurling insults at each other. I don't think any side should expect to get all their own issues addressed, they just want to know that the party has a place for them and respect for their issues. I think the Dems like this abuse of each other. It will keep them winning for some time to come.


55 posted on 12/11/2006 8:08:40 AM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: familyop

"Paleo-conservatives = Pat Buchanan, David Duke and their kind, including Europeans who complain about "neo-cons."



wrong


56 posted on 12/11/2006 9:28:50 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: ProCivitas
While I totally reject the idea that true Conservatism should be qualified with any adjective--the only function of doing that seems to me to be provide a measure of comfort for those who are only Conservative on particular issues that reflect their personal likes and dislikes--I would agree with your comments, as to those generally labelled as Paleo-Conservative. As one who has fought for traditional values for over half a century, and worked with a wide spectrum of Conservative movements, I do speak with some familiarity as to how American Conservatives are "wrapped."

But note, also, the absurdity of even trying to fit the false Conservative--such as the Trotskyite "Neocons"--under a Conservative umbrella! They are diametrically opposed to the concepts that led to settlement, development, the Conservative American Revolution, and the Conservative Federal Constitution. Even in the last 24 hours, we have seen how obviously non-Conservative is their influence today in Washington. General Pinochet, a true friend to the American people, passed away yesterday, and was mourned by the British Conservative Lady Thatcher, who understood first hand, how important Pinochet's contribution was to the survival of traditional Western values. At the same time, the White House issued a statement expressing sympathy for Pinochet's alleged victims!!

Pinochet moved effectively to save his native land from a Marxist takeover and consolidation of power. Is there any true Conservative who would not want the American military to intervene in order to prevent a Communist takeover of America? Yes, the Pinochet interim Government may have done in some known Communists. The supporters of the Founding Fathers, back in the late 1770s and 1780s ran off some foes of our Independence by putting them on split rails, and pouring hot tar over them, before they covered them with feathers. Some did not survive the process. Can we expect this White House, through the same anonymous spokesman, to mourn the victims of the American Revolution next July 4th?

Enough is enough!

William Flax

57 posted on 12/11/2006 9:33:28 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: ProCivitas
Am I overlooking something about "Lockean contract theory"?

Yeah, I don't get that either. I thought John Locke was saying that if through your labor and wits you make something, then you own it, so long as you don't hurt someone else in the process. That to me seems a fundamental and conservative pillar.

58 posted on 12/11/2006 11:01:52 AM PST by JTHomes
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To: A. Pole

Variation: Economic Conservatism
Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism
US Parties: Republican
Presidents: Ronaldus Magnus (96.88% or some such)


59 posted on 12/11/2006 12:40:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: elkfersupper

I scored "libertarian," although by no means a pure one.


60 posted on 12/11/2006 12:46:00 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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