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Engines Lab Teams with Solix Biofuels Inc. to Mass Produce Oil from Algae as Diesel Fuel Alternative
Colorado State University ^ | Dec. 07, 2006 | Emily Narvaes Wilmsen

Posted on 12/11/2006 8:11:06 AM PST by mad puppy

Solix Biofuels Inc., a startup company based in Boulder, is working with Colorado State University engineers to commercialize technology that can cheaply mass produce oil derived from algae and turn it into biodiesel - an environmentally friendly solution to high gas prices, greenhouse gas emissions and volatile global energy markets.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsinfo.colostate.edu ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: algae; colorado; csu; diesel; energy; oil
Admittedly shameless plug for my old school, but this algae stuff sounds pretty promising. Also note the involvement of New Belgium Brewing Co., from Fort Collins, and brewer of Fat Tire. Hmmm. Mix Fat Tire and the promise of getting the US off M.E. oil and throw in the old school and well, I have to post.
1 posted on 12/11/2006 8:11:11 AM PST by mad puppy
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To: mad puppy; Red Badger

ping


2 posted on 12/11/2006 8:12:06 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: mad puppy

Neat


3 posted on 12/11/2006 8:13:58 AM PST by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: mad puppy

Of course, a gallon of gas is cheaper than a six of Fat Tire.


4 posted on 12/11/2006 8:14:02 AM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: neodad

Yeah but six Fat Tiere will get you there faster than the gallon of gas!


5 posted on 12/11/2006 8:16:16 AM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: neodad

"Of course, a gallon of gas is cheaper than a six of Fat Tire."

You ever tasted gasoline? You might get a buzz, but man, you gotta want it pretty bad.


6 posted on 12/11/2006 8:17:03 AM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: Boiler Plate
Yeah. That is kind of what I thought. Then of course I started thinking about how fast that stuff grows and had visions of some freak'ish sci-fi movie where the algae grows uncontrolled and eats Fort Collins (and destroys a really great brewery). I just hope they can do some good with it so that every time the OPEC drop supply we can break out the algae-oil and tell them to shove off.
7 posted on 12/11/2006 8:21:15 AM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: mad puppy

"solution to high gas prices" One key here is the taxes on it. Ever look at California's taxes? They don't tax gas or diesel.....they tax "fuel". No matter who comes up with what, they'll tax the hell out of it. We also need to get rid of the Fed's excise tax. No need for this tax any longer.


8 posted on 12/11/2006 8:37:46 AM PST by Ron2
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To: mad puppy

Sandia lab already has a program to work out the kinks on this technology. At this point, I think it is primarily genetic engineering they need. They need to come up with an algae strain that will grow here inexpensively, and will produce enough lipids to make it worthwhile. They are a long way from the goal, though, so if anyone says they are ready to commercialize it, they are probably trying to pull the wool over someone's eyes.


9 posted on 12/11/2006 8:41:05 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Ron2
I'm sure you're right. I will just take solace in the fact that it will be the US gov't collecting the cash and not some M.E. country that uses those $$$'s to support schools that teach hatred of this country and encourage students to kill Jews, Americans and all other non-Islamics. Well.... at least they don't today.
10 posted on 12/11/2006 8:49:01 AM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: mad puppy

Was taught how to operate a 'Kentucky Gas Station' at age 8. Only took three attempts not to get a mouth full of gas any more.


11 posted on 12/11/2006 9:14:42 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: mad puppy
There is another question. The article claims it will only take .5 percent of the area of the US to grow it. If Alaska and Hawaii are included that about 17687 square miles. If they are excluded it's about 14795 square miles. That's roughly half the size of the sate of Maine. Where is that coming from? What public and private use lands will be forfeit to grow the algae? I'll bet Eminent Domain will come into play in a major way before this is over.
12 posted on 12/11/2006 9:22:53 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Brilliant

How about thermal depolymerization?


13 posted on 12/11/2006 9:23:42 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: Ron2

Wait till next year and we get a $1 tax on gasoline. After all we Paid greedy Big Oil that much and why would we complain? After all "my friends in La Belle France have to pay $5"That will show you SUV driving Fuel Hogs.
barbra ann


14 posted on 12/11/2006 9:28:16 AM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Dutch Boy
Sounds like another scheme to get grant money. Like celulosstic Ethanol. It, like other Bio diesel or fuels require research money and subsidies. How does the CO2 get from the power plant chimneys to the Algae. I realize we must phase out corn as we need it to make tortillas for the undocumented workers.
barbra ann
15 posted on 12/11/2006 9:44:22 AM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: sully777; Fierce Allegiance; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ...

Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.......

If you want on or off the DIESEL "KNOCK" LIST just FReepmail me........

This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days......

16 posted on 12/11/2006 10:14:00 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: mad puppy

http://www.greenstarusa.com/products/photos8.html


17 posted on 12/11/2006 10:16:14 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: barb-tex
It, like other Bio diesel or fuels require research money and subsidies http://www.greenstarusa.com/products/photos8.html It's being done with private funds...........
18 posted on 12/11/2006 10:18:03 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: barb-tex

There are private biodiesel plants making fuel already without government money. The same is not true of ethanol.


19 posted on 12/11/2006 10:21:23 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: mad puppy
Just paid 1.97 for reg. in Goshen IN.
20 posted on 12/11/2006 12:29:05 PM PST by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: Ron2
They don't tax gas or diesel.....they tax "fuel". No matter who comes up with what, they'll tax the hell out of it. We also need to get rid of the Fed's excise tax. No need for this tax any longer.

Fuel taxes generally go for road construction and maintenance -- it's as close to a direct user fee as you're likely to see. What's the problem?

21 posted on 12/11/2006 12:33:13 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Dutch Boy
What public and private use lands will be forfeit to grow the algae?

Hint: algae grow very well in water, and not so well on land.

22 posted on 12/11/2006 12:35:03 PM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Do you think thr ev. wackos will permit algae farms on wetlands?
barbra ann


23 posted on 12/11/2006 9:47:03 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Red Badger

I see on the web page they are shipping to South Africa. SA had four coal to oil plants built in the late 70's, early 80's. but I understand they are no longer in operation. It looks like biodiesel is not price competive with petro diesel, how can they operate at a loss, or are the diesel customers green enough they will pay more for bio. BTW what is feed stock for GreenStar?
barbra ann


24 posted on 12/11/2006 10:15:31 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: barb-tex
Do you think thr ev. wackos will permit algae farms on wetlands?

Why worry about wetlands when you've got oceans?

25 posted on 12/12/2006 6:19:36 AM PST by r9etb
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To: barb-tex

Greenstar "feedstock" is ALGAE...............They GROW diesel!........


26 posted on 12/12/2006 6:24:10 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: r9etb

Algae can be grown in the desert or anyplace that has room, regardless of soil..........


27 posted on 12/12/2006 6:25:30 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Red Badger

True ... but water's an awfully convenient place to grow it.


28 posted on 12/12/2006 6:28:28 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Battle Axe

I wouldn't run my lawnmower on regular!


29 posted on 12/12/2006 6:30:34 AM PST by Diggadave
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To: r9etb

http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/biodiesel.html


30 posted on 12/12/2006 6:33:15 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: barb-tex

Check out Sasol SA (the company that operates the coal-to-gas-to-liquid plants). They sell a lot as chemicals as well as fuels.

The Fischer Tropsch conversion is very profitable when oil stays about $55 a barrel.


31 posted on 12/12/2006 6:34:13 AM PST by Diggadave
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To: barb-tex

Oh, and I forgot to mention that Sasol also has a major deal with the Chinese to license or build coal-gas-liquid plants in China, so they can ease their dependence on oil imports.

Red Badger is right, though: The future is diesel because 20-30% less fuel consumption means no imports from the Middle East. Bye bye OPEC


32 posted on 12/12/2006 6:39:34 AM PST by Diggadave
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To: Battle Axe

$1.97 is just slightly better than around Denver right now: 2.10.

What bothers me about that is we are so dependent on the mood swings of OPEC and the oil refineries here in the States. I just want an energy source that is extremely efficient, as green-friendly as possible AND doesn't put money into the hands of those who fund terrorists.


33 posted on 12/12/2006 9:02:23 AM PST by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: r9etb

It would completely destroy complete ecosystems if lakes and ponds were used. It can't be grown in seas because it would float away. The only option left is land where they will have to build algae growing tanks.


34 posted on 12/12/2006 9:36:38 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy
It can't be grown in seas because it would float away.

I'm sure you could as easily think of a remedy for this as I did.

FWIW, though, check the links Red Badger provided above, showing how a land-based version would work.

35 posted on 12/12/2006 9:47:34 AM PST by r9etb
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To: Diggadave

Who is A&E on the Sasol Units these days. I was working with Flour E&C out of Irvine CA when they built Sasol 1,2&3.
barbra ann


36 posted on 12/12/2006 5:44:18 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: Diggadave

Only Mercedes has built a really successful Diesel powered Auto. Does MB import a diesel anymore?The Turbo 300 in the 80's was a great engine.Ford, Dodge, and Chevy make pickups but wonder why no cars. The Cadillacs and Pontiacs in the 70's were real turkeys. In the old days, back in the 50's. Cummins built an Indy Roadster which took the pole but unfortunately was a DNF.
barbra ann


37 posted on 12/12/2006 6:03:49 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: barb-tex

I meant marketed in the US. I realize that there are many diesel Autos. the London Taxis come to mind. But for American Roads?
barbra ann


38 posted on 12/12/2006 6:08:38 PM PST by barb-tex (Why replace the IRS with anything?)
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To: barb-tex

You must be kidding!! BMW have some of the smoothest diesel engines around and Audi (part of VW) won the Le Mans 24 Hour race 1st & 2nd places with diesels this year.

Essentially, until the fuel quality is raised to match that of Europe, the biggest US markets remain off limits to the best diesel cars around (CA, MA, etc) because of emmissions, so the excuse is 'no market' (which is what they said about hybrids when Toyota started marketing them...)

You can cure a lot of that with expensive catalysts on the vehicles, but it is much more efficient to clean up the fuel (and better for the environment, to keep the tree-huggers happy! ;-)

The Merc E320 diesel is a very nice ride and available at a dealer near you! VW Jetta (for the more modest budget) is also pretty smooth (if you can find it).

The difference with todays diesels (vs. the Cadies of the 70s) is that in markets like Europe, where they mandated Ultra Low Sulphur fuels 10 years ago, diesel engines were developed and sold (gas being $6 a gallon!). Without the change in the fuel, no development (except adding turbos) was possible. Europe mandated a change in the fuel and now diesels are 45-50% of new car sales (from about 10% 10 years ago).

Beat Big Oil into submission on upgrading their refineries (what they can't afford it??) and you will have the opportunity to drive fanatastic vehicles like the Audi A6 3L TDi Quattro or the BMW 540 d.


39 posted on 12/13/2006 2:10:30 AM PST by Diggadave
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To: barb-tex

I think German companies have been more heavily involved in this. Linde Engineering AG and Lurgi AG have built various chemical plants for Sasol and others, as they have a lot of German domestic experience in this technology and downstream applications for the chemical industry. Of course, Lurgi AG were some of the first people to develop commercial Fischer Tropsch technology (but don’t mention the war!)

Sasol also started a GTL plant in Qatar this year and announced a $32m investment in a Fischer Tropsch reactor at it’s R&D centre in SA, as well. One of their VPs told me that they will either invest and build plants for themselves or JV if they retain the intellectual property & favourable royalties.


40 posted on 12/13/2006 2:27:19 AM PST by Diggadave
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