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Holocaust Deniers and Skeptics Gather in Iran
NY Times ^ | 12/11/06 | NAZILA FATHI

Posted on 12/11/2006 12:21:29 PM PST by kiriath_jearim

TEHRAN, Dec. 11 — Holocaust deniers and skeptics from around the world gathered at a government-sponsored conference here today to discuss their theories about whether six million Jews were indeed killed by the Nazis during World War II and whether gas chambers existed.

In a speech opening the two-day conference, Rasoul Mousavi, head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry’s Institute for Political and International Studies, which organized the event, said it was an opportunity for scholars to discuss the subject “away from Western taboos and the restriction imposed on them in Europe.”

The foreign ministry had said that 67 foreign researchers from 30 countries were scheduled to take part. Among those speaking today are David Duke, the American white-supremacist politician and former Ku Klux Klan leader, and Georges Thiel, a French writer who has been prosecuted in France over his denials of the Holocaust.

Mr. Duke’s remarks late this afternoon are expected to assert that no gas chambers or extermination camps were actually built during the war, on the ground that killing Jews that way would have been much too bothersome and expensive when the Nazis could have used much simpler methods, according to an advance summary of his speech published by the institute.

“Depicting Jews as the overwhelming victims of the Holocaust gave the moral high ground to the Allies as victors of the war, and allowed Jews to establish a state on the occupied land of Palestine,” Mr. Duke’s paper says, according to the summary.

One of the first scheduled speakers, Robert Faurisson of France, also called the Holocaust a myth created to justify the occupation of Palestine.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; holocaust; holocaustdenials; iran; revisionisthistory; secondholocaust

1 posted on 12/11/2006 12:21:30 PM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Hmmm...I sense a "strategic" moment in Iran right now...


2 posted on 12/11/2006 12:22:46 PM PST by The Blitherer ("I will prepare and some day my chance will come.")
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To: kiriath_jearim
a myth created to justify the occupation of Palestine.

What were those pictures of dead bodies heaped into mass graves? Are we to believe they were photoshopped?! Gimme a break!
3 posted on 12/11/2006 12:23:27 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: kiriath_jearim

Unlike the Al Reuters' piece, this article did not attribute a political affiliation to David Duke who was Democrat, Independent, Republican, and is Independent again.


4 posted on 12/11/2006 12:23:27 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: kiriath_jearim
Yeah, the ISG's idea to open a dialogue with this folks is the right way to go...

Sheesh..

5 posted on 12/11/2006 12:24:32 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: Froufrou

No sense in arguing with them. You are wasting your breath. The alternate line of reasoning they spout is that since the Holocaust "occurred in Europe" there should be a homeland established for Jews in Europe, not in the Middle East.


6 posted on 12/11/2006 12:25:07 PM PST by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: kiriath_jearim

More "not anti-Semitism" from the lefties.


7 posted on 12/11/2006 12:25:57 PM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Froufrou
What about those mountains of eyeglasses, suitcases and human hair?

I've been to Mathousen in Austria and although it wasn't a full bore death camp; it did have showers and a crematoria.
Pretty creepy place. I'd like to see David Duke explain to me why the showers had a door seal at each end?
8 posted on 12/11/2006 12:27:47 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: weegee
The alternate line of reasoning they spout is that since the Holocaust "occurred in Europe" there should be a homeland established for Jews in Europe, not in the Middle East

Kinda like the "I didn't shoot him, but if I did it was out of self-defense" argument.

9 posted on 12/11/2006 12:29:39 PM PST by The Blitherer ("I will prepare and some day my chance will come.")
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To: kiriath_jearim

We are still discussing what happened in Egypt 3,000 years later.

It is illegal to even discuss WWII history and this issue in Europe. The discussion needs to continue if only to continue to prove it occurred.


10 posted on 12/11/2006 12:29:52 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: weegee; Lx

The REAL game here is the "Gore" game. Also known as the "Kerry" game. Okay, just the "Dem" game.

They've copied what has worked for the Libs for so long. They simply make it up as they go along. People become entrenched; the older generations die off the the younger ones are distracted with hedonistic pursuits or rearing children and working. They reach a point where they believe what they are told to believe...

Oh wait...


11 posted on 12/11/2006 12:31:43 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Lx
What about those mountains of eyeglasses, suitcases and human hair?

Heck, I'll settle for them explaining what happened to all the Jews living in Europe. They just magically vanished?

12 posted on 12/11/2006 12:33:21 PM PST by The Blitherer ("I will prepare and some day my chance will come.")
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To: Froufrou
a myth created to justify the occupation of Palestine

Ummm, since when is there a country called Palestine?

13 posted on 12/11/2006 12:33:42 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: The Blitherer

Yep, along with terrorist funerals and "death to America, death to Israel" rallies Holocaust-denial conferences are what MOABs are made for.


14 posted on 12/11/2006 12:34:12 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: weegee

I especially enjoy it when Islamists deny the Holocaust in one breath and in the next spout off about America or Israel being "as bad as Hitler."


15 posted on 12/11/2006 12:36:14 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Puppage

Another hole in the Swiss cheese...


16 posted on 12/11/2006 12:36:51 PM PST by Froufrou
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To: Mr. Mojo
I especially enjoy it when Islamists deny the Holocaust in one breath and in the next spout off about America or Israel being "as bad as Hitler."

And then send the Arabic translation of Mein Kampf to the top of the best seller list because they think Hitler had some pretty good ideas.

17 posted on 12/11/2006 12:41:46 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Target Rich Environment.

18 posted on 12/11/2006 12:42:01 PM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: weegee
The alternate line of reasoning they spout is that since the Holocaust "occurred in Europe" there should be a homeland established for Jews in Europe, not in the Middle East.

That's exactly where Iran wants to take this. They ignore the fact that the Middle East's Jews, including Persians, fled to Israel after its founding.

19 posted on 12/11/2006 12:43:15 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: The Blitherer

Nuke them now.


20 posted on 12/11/2006 12:44:10 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: kiriath_jearim

Maybe Austria can arrest Iran like they did David Irving.


21 posted on 12/11/2006 12:44:51 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: edcoil
We are still discussing what happened in Egypt 3,000 years later.

Exactly! What slavery?
22 posted on 12/11/2006 12:59:01 PM PST by alecqss
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To: kiriath_jearim; All
If these assholes are correct, my great Uncle Gershom, his wife Etta, their five children, and my great Aunt Gittel, her nine children, and three grandchildren, Uncle Yaacov his wife Julia and their four children, and other members of my mothers family, are hiding in Switzerland and have been since 1933 through 1945.
My fathers Austrian family stopped being in contact since 1940. Maybe they too are hiding. 39 souls gone shortly after Crystal Nacht.
Only a cousin Mauritz survived as a member of the Brit Army in Lybia. Passed (we think of meloncolia just after the war.

I am sure they are all living well in order to gain some sort of perverted sympathy. You know those Joooooooooooos.
23 posted on 12/11/2006 1:01:29 PM PST by Gideon Reader (" All of us know who the enemy is, and where the threat comes from, except for the politicians.")
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To: kiriath_jearim

What a great opportunity to both send a message to the world's fiendish thugs, and, rapidly perform mass de Nazification. The ICBMs will launch in 5 minutes ....


24 posted on 12/11/2006 1:22:36 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Alter Kaker

Yeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaa.....


25 posted on 12/11/2006 1:23:55 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Holocaust Deniers and Skeptics Gather in Iran

..as long as they stay there...

26 posted on 12/11/2006 1:25:42 PM PST by Tolkien ("It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong." ---Voltaire)
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To: kiriath_jearim
The foreign ministry had said that 67 foreign researchers from 30 countries were scheduled to take part.

Hopefully somebody has thought of embedding a few spies in there with this motley crew.
27 posted on 12/11/2006 1:35:55 PM PST by parisa
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To: kiriath_jearim

will Jimmy Carter be making an appearance???


28 posted on 12/11/2006 2:12:23 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
My Father in law was in Germany in 1944 with the U.S. Army and directly helped to liberate one of the death camps. One of my Uncles was with the 4th ID in Germany and witnessed the same things. They were ready to shoot every Nazi site on seen and not after seeing their friends killed or wounded in war, but after witnessing what the Nazi's did to helpless civilians-elderly-women-children in those camps. The Iranians are worse than the Nazi's and are going down the same road to destruction.
29 posted on 12/11/2006 2:17:18 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: kiriath_jearim
Maybe the a$$hole needs to take a look at these pictures...

http://shamash.org/holocaust/photos/

30 posted on 12/11/2006 2:50:09 PM PST by GulfWar1Vet (Is it over yet?)
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To: Lx
I've been to Mathousen in Austria and although it wasn't a full bore death camp; it did have showers and a crematoria.

I've had the opportunity to visit Dachau, and several of the 'feeder' camps around it.

Pretty creepy place.

That doesn't even begin to describe it.

-Traveler

31 posted on 12/11/2006 3:03:33 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Why don't Jews kill the scumbag so-called "rabbis" who are in Tehran to support this hateful conference. Doesn't the Talmud state that Jews who strengthen the enemy's hand can be killed justifiably?


32 posted on 12/11/2006 3:06:05 PM PST by montag813
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To: Traveler59

In 1946, I went to Dauchau, Andau, and Auschwitz. A "living history" trip compliments of my father, who was working with the German re-construction effort. "Creepy place" does not even begin to describe it.


33 posted on 12/11/2006 3:16:37 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Wow! If you have the desire, please tell us more.


34 posted on 12/12/2006 12:09:18 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Gideon Reader

Was your father born in the States?


35 posted on 12/12/2006 12:13:05 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: edcoil

I believe these types of people know it occurred. They say the things they do just to be hateful.


36 posted on 12/12/2006 12:15:36 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: montag813
Why don't Jews kill the scumbag so-called "rabbis" who are in Tehran to support this hateful conference.

There are Jews at the conference? Just when you thought you heard everything.

37 posted on 12/12/2006 12:16:36 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
Yes.Why?
The folks I wrote of were the brothers and sisters (mostly)of my maternal Grandmother and Grandfather,(but some of my paternal side) who remained in Europe instead of migrating to England, Canada, Palestine ((Today Israel)) and the US, as did other members of the family. Did I get their placement (Great/grand/second/third/forth)screwed up?
Regardless, the Shoah consumed them and they are gone.
Not in hiding in the Isle of Wight, Zurich, Singapore, or the Caymans.
38 posted on 12/12/2006 4:18:44 AM PST by Gideon Reader (" All of us know who the enemy is, and where the threat comes from, except for the politicians.")
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To: Gideon Reader
Yes.Why?

Just curious if he had been over there, how he got out. We know a Jewish fellow and he's got family all over like yours. Some even in South America.

39 posted on 12/12/2006 5:40:57 AM PST by beaversmom
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