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James Dobson: Two Mommies Is One Too Many
Time Magazine ^ | December 11, 2006 | JAMES C. DOBSON

Posted on 12/11/2006 3:55:47 PM PST by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189

I respect and agree with Dr. Dobson, but why can't anybody finish the sentence? I get so tired of folks pussyfooting around the camel in the tent. This is not a "bad idea" because "sociological data indicates...". Parents should be male and femal because that's how God made them. Homosexuality is wrong because God says so. Fornication and a host of other things are wrong, not because "studies indicate..." but because they are declared so by the Creator. We can't say it but it's true.

And now... let the excoriation begin!


41 posted on 12/11/2006 4:42:12 PM PST by TapTap (No Immigration Without Assimilation!)
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To: gidget7; scottdeus12; Torie; All
I understood what scott meant as he said he was waiting.

He was waiting on Torie to show up and defend his stupid remark.

And by now there are a whole lot of FReepers who have called Torie out.

But Torie knows better than to show up and comment. At least perhaps he could apologize.

But for now we all can assume Tore has cut and run.

42 posted on 12/11/2006 4:43:07 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: B Knotts
Dobson makes a bunch of assumptions, unverified assumptions. Sure a family with a mother and father is best, if stable, but that does not mean that something less than the best is unacceptable. Dobson seems to want to make illegal for lesbians to have children somehow (which of course is unconstitutional but whatever, but then Dobson has an authoritarian streak in him), and to have a flat out ban on gays adopting, which would be at once a tragedy and cruel, not only to them, but to kids that needs homes (and gays talk some of the hard to place ones, since in many states they are disfavored). Once we have some data that gays make poor parents, we can talk. It isn't out there, and won't be, so I guess we won't talk.

I know where Dobson is coming from on this and other related issues. I don't want to go there.

43 posted on 12/11/2006 4:43:35 PM PST by Torie
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To: mkjessup

Orange County actually. Some times the "facts" just don't come in little neat packages do they?


44 posted on 12/11/2006 4:45:11 PM PST by Torie
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To: Gelato

"That is not to say Cheney and Poe will not love THEIR child."

"Poor choice of words."

I cringed when I read that, too.


45 posted on 12/11/2006 4:46:20 PM PST by Reddy
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sorry, I work on my schedule, not yours.


46 posted on 12/11/2006 4:46:31 PM PST by Torie
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To: RWR8189

A voice of sanity in the wilderness. Thank God for Dobson!


47 posted on 12/11/2006 4:47:08 PM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: Burkean
The extension to his argument.....

Who's arguing this? Dobson or Torie?

I'm assuming you mean Torie as Dr. Dobson has never advocated a legal ban on divorce and men who knock up women may skate by in our courts, but not so in "His" Courts....

48 posted on 12/11/2006 4:48:54 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: I still care

That is an excellent article by Prager.

As a Catholic, I often wish our Bishops would follow the Jewish wisdom, and forbid the ordinaton of homosexuals.


49 posted on 12/11/2006 4:51:14 PM PST by Palladin ("Open a new window; open a new door; travel a new highway.")
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To: Torie

Dobson, and a team of freepers, are going to lead a special forces squad to capture the Mary Cheney baby.


50 posted on 12/11/2006 4:52:57 PM PST by oceanview
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To: RWR8189

I agree with Dobson, but I don't understand what he wants us to do about it. We can speak out against it, but I'm uncomfortable arguing the government should intervene. Mary Cheney is pregnant. She lives with another woman. Those are the facts. Does Dobson want Cheney's child taken away by the state? The couple forced to live apart? He doesn't say.

I think all we can do is speak the truth and hope people listen.


51 posted on 12/11/2006 4:53:34 PM PST by mngran
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To: Torie

Apology accepted.


52 posted on 12/11/2006 4:53:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning)
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To: oceanview

LOL.


53 posted on 12/11/2006 4:53:47 PM PST by Torie
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To: RWR8189

BUMP!!!


54 posted on 12/11/2006 4:55:34 PM PST by Nancee
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To: mngran

correct. and that is indeed the issue here. there is nothing than can (or should be) done about this. so let it go, let it go - because as a political issue, this hurt us with independents.


55 posted on 12/11/2006 4:56:08 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Torie

Once we have some data that gays make poor parents, we can talk. It isn't out there, and won't be, so I guess we won't talk.
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Yes, we will just wait and in the meantime we will do some more social experiments with the children.

What's the harm?,right? they are not your kids, you can't be the subject of the experiments, so we will just wait and see and if the kids are all screwed up later in life...weeeell, at least we'll know.

You don't babysit kids do you? Do you have kids?


56 posted on 12/11/2006 4:56:29 PM PST by Vinny (What is a liberal?, someone that is a friend of every country but their own.)
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To: oceanview; Torie
Dobson, and a team of freepers, are going to lead a special forces squad to capture the Mary Cheney baby.

DON'T give the marc costanzos any (more) nutty ideas!

57 posted on 12/11/2006 4:57:52 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Torie

"Dobson makes a bunch of assumptions, unverified assumptions."

Children are meant to be raised by a mother and a father. That is not an assumption. That is fact. That is how humans (and some other animals) are biologically designed.


"but that does not mean that something less than the best is unacceptable."

It's unacceptable if you are the child. And it is certainly unacceptable if it is avoidable, such as the Cheney case.

"Dobson seems to want to make illegal for lesbians to have children somehow"

Yeah, he is campaigning for that right now (sarc).

Don't even start talking to me about "gays" and adopting. Some friends of ours just lost their 3 foster children of 22 months to a birth grandfather whose own child (birth mom) was in foster care herself. It seems being Christians and homeschoolers was not a good scenario for the children, one of who was raised since infancy by the HETEROSEXUAL couple and their bio children. I guess if they were HOMOSEXUALS, they would be considered primo parents. Grrrrr.


58 posted on 12/11/2006 5:00:55 PM PST by Reddy
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To: Reddy

once again, this is not a gay adoption issue. Mary Cheney is the ACTUAL MOTHER of this baby, its her baby.

and she will make a much better mother then - let's say - Andrea Yates, a heterosexual woman with a husband, wouldn't you agree?


59 posted on 12/11/2006 5:04:12 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Torie
One Dobson is one too many."

This is exactly what is wrong with America., Yeah, thats right...I blame you and all who, like you, see it as evil or wrong or destructive to call a spade a spade. Children REQUIRE a mother and father. We already have enough failures just on this score to have to help the problem with a worsening of the nuclear family with watered down, fuzzy lined definitions of what family is.

I hope you see the error of this line of thinking as it has trashed many a life with confusion.

And before you huff at me as if I am insulting you remember this, it is not love alone that builds a family, it is not income or means or availability, it is ALL those things and more PLUS the indellible mark and unique qualities of a caring and involved FATHER and MOTHER.

60 posted on 12/11/2006 5:09:50 PM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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