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Pentagon Evangelism Called 'National Security Threat'
www.cnsnews.com ^ | Dec 12, 2006 | Nathan Burchfiel

Posted on 12/12/2006 6:19:34 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan

(CNSNews.com) - Christian military officers who share their faith at work in the Pentagon pose a threat to national security, according to a group that advocates for religious neutrality in the military.

Public displays of faith by high-ranking military officers project an image of a Christian nation waging war on non-Christians, both inside and outside the United States, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation said Monday.

This created an "internal national security issue every bit as great as the one we're fighting outwardly," said the organization's president, Mikey Weinstein.

"The jihadists, the insurrectionists, everybody from the head of Hamas, Hizballah, the Islamic Jihad, the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, they see us as invading American imperialists and crusaders," he told a news conference in Washington, D.C.

Weinstein, a graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy who has been critical of proselytizing at the academy, called for an investigation into several officers who appeared in a promotional video for a Christian organization while in uniform.

In addition to creating a national security threat, Weinstein said, evangelistic efforts by Christian officers directed toward their colleagues or subordinates amounted to "coercion" and "fanatical unconstitutional religious persecution."

"There's a time and place to celebrate your faith or no faith," Weinstein said. "There's so many times and places you can do it ... but there's a few times you can't, one of which would be when you wear your uniform during the duty day and duty night and you outrank somebody else and you're trying to push your religious faith on them."

He called on incoming Defense Secretary Robert Gates to investigate a promotional video for the Christian Embassy, an organization that ministers to members of Congress, ambassadors, presidential appointees and Pentagon officials.

Christian Embassy, established in 1975, works with government leaders "not only because of their personal needs, but also because of their position as decision-makers to influence our families and freedoms," according to its website. At the Pentagon, the group holds weekly prayer meetings and Bible studies every weekday.

In the promotional video cited by Weinstein, four generals and three colonels appear wearing their uniforms. Among them is Lt. Col. Lucious Morton, who says that Christian Embassy-led Bible studies benefit the military as a whole because they create "Godly men" who will lead others into battle.

Maj. Gen. Jack Catton also appears in the video and says he shares his faith with people he meets in his office: "I start with the fact that I'm an old-fashioned American, and my first priority is my faith in God, then my family, and then my country."

Weinstein said the video raises questions about whether the officers followed military regulations that restrict appearances in uniform for non-military purposes.

Their professions of faith violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prohibits Congress from making laws "respecting the establishment of religion," he argued.

The video, which appears on Christian Embassy's website, carries a disclaimer that says "the views expressed by any government officials in this video are their personal views and are not intended to represent the U.S. government nor any department in which they serve."

Catton, director of requirements for Air Combat Command (ACC) at Langley Air Force Base in Virginia, has been criticized for sharing his faith before. Last May, he used his military e-mail account to support a retired general who was running for U.S. Congress.

In that e-mail, Catton wrote: "We are certainly in need of Christian men with integrity and military experience in Congress."

Lt. Col Brian Maka, a spokesman for the DOD inspector general, declined to comment Monday on whether an investigation is underway, although media reports in May suggested that there was.

'No evidence of coercion'

Maj. Laurel Tingley, a spokeswoman for ACC, told Cybercast News Service Catton would not be commenting about the video because "it's going to be something bigger than Air Combat Command or even something bigger than the Air Force." She referred further questions to the Department of Defense.

Maj. Stewart Upton said Monday the DOD inspector general's office had received the complaint from Weinstein's group but added that it would be "inappropriate ... for us to speculate as to what, if any, actions will be taken at this point."

Upton added that DOD "does not endorse any one religion or religious organization but we do provide opportunities for military service members to practice their faiths."

Calls placed to Christian Embassy requesting comment for this report were not returned Monday.

Elaine Donnelly, president of the Center for Military Readiness, criticized Weinstein for asking the DOD inspector general's office to spend time investigating the video.

She said that because the video is accompanied by a disclaimer and does not ask for money, it doesn't raise concern with her.

"The Department of Defense inspector general has an awful lot of issues on their plate, on their agenda, and I don't see this as something so important that everything else should be put on hold," Donnelly told Cybercast News Service after viewing the video. "The DOD IG has a lot more important things to do."

She called it a "stretch to talk about anything coercive," noting that a soldier engaging in religious activity such as prayer "appears to be purely voluntary on the part of anyone who wants to participate."

"I don't see any evidence that this is a coercive type of environment," Donnelly said.


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There is a threat here for sure. The anti Christian jihad rolls on in this country. Happily, the reversal of the Christmas Tree removal at SEA TAC Airport is a light of hope in the darkness. But DoD is so riddled with political correctness, any outcome is possible here.
1 posted on 12/12/2006 6:19:37 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Weinstein said the video raises questions about whether the officers followed military regulations that restrict appearances in uniform for non-military purposes.

So that would mean those losers wearing their uniforms in Cindy Sheehan's "Peace Marches" shouldn't be doing so either. these people are all going to be so mad when they figure out that they won't always be able to have it both ways.
3 posted on 12/12/2006 6:27:23 AM PST by USMCWife6869
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To: Bulldawg Fan
This created an "internal national security issue every bit as great as the one we're fighting outwardly," said the organization's president, Mikey Weinstein.

Uh, OK, Mikey.

Flying a commercial airliner into the Pentagon isn't as serious as one DoD employee inviting another DoD employee to his congregation's Wednesday night Bible study.

It's great to know that a purported grownup who nevertheless goes by the name of "Mikey" is able to keep things in such crystalline perspective.

4 posted on 12/12/2006 6:28:03 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Political correctness threatens our national security.
5 posted on 12/12/2006 6:30:36 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: Bulldawg Fan

These guys want to not only see Christianity and Judiasm out of the military, but to see the military reduced by 80%, fast track promotion of gays, affirmative action within the military, total nuclear disarmenment, a total pullout from the middle east (unless the UN says it is OK to be there and under a UN peacekeeping force) and for the military to become a second welfare rail.

They are liberal idiots.


6 posted on 12/12/2006 6:31:46 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Darn, if only that general did not have that Jesus sign up in his office those nice Islmofacists would not want to kill us.


7 posted on 12/12/2006 6:32:47 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Idaho Whacko

It is so bad now that even Jews are now feeling the anti-religous heat.


8 posted on 12/12/2006 6:32:57 AM PST by Thunder90
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To: Bulldawg Fan

My only concern is that the article says it was generals and colonels appearing in the video. I believe all members of the armed services should be entitled to practice their faiths. But if a general in uniform tries to evangelize his subordinates, he is crossing a line. His subordinates may feel pressured by the general's authority into something they do not accept or believe. It is not a war on Chritianity to prevent active evangelism on the part of officers towards the troops. The flipside is that the U.S. military is a Christian organization, not a secular one. In other words, must our soldiers be Christian, or should their faith be a factor in promotion?


9 posted on 12/12/2006 6:47:44 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what an Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Thunder90

Yep. The real internal enemy are evangelical atheists. Who will stop at nothing to spread their belief system.


10 posted on 12/12/2006 6:52:03 AM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: doc30

The military must focus on winning the war and doesn't need to be swatting gnats like this.


11 posted on 12/12/2006 6:53:22 AM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Idaho Whacko
"...another jewish attack on Christianity..."

Actually, I question this guy's Jewishness. Most devout Jews are amicable towards Christians, especially at Christmas time. This guy reminds me of a neighbor I once had: never went to synagogue, didn't keep Kosher, didn't keep the Sabbath, didn't follow the Torah, BUT wore "Jewish" on his cuff and took great offense at anything Christian. Meanwhile, some of our devout Jewish friends in the same neighborhood, respected our Christianity; gave our children gifts at Christmas, etc.
I read an article by a Rabbi once who stated that, from his experience, there were an awful lot of atheists who called themselves Jews and generally discredited the faith and created animosity between Christians and their Jewish cousins in faith.
12 posted on 12/12/2006 6:55:08 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA EST!)
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To: doc30

Are soldiers really that delicate, sensitive and weak willed and full of fear? That if they don't become Christians the general won't like me? Well, boo hoo, I don't believe it.


13 posted on 12/12/2006 7:06:27 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: Bulldawg Fan
said the organization's president, Mikey Weinstein.

If your name is Michael and you go by Mikey, you're gay, and that's the this guy's real problem.

14 posted on 12/12/2006 7:07:55 AM PST by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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To: doc30

My only concern is that the article says it was generals and colonels appearing in the video. I believe all members of the armed services should be entitled to practice their faiths. But if a general in uniform tries to evangelize his subordinates, he is crossing a line. His subordinates may feel pressured by the general's authority into something they do not accept or believe. It is not a war on Chritianity to prevent active evangelism on the part of officers towards the troops. The flipside is that the U.S. military is a Christian organization, not a secular one. In other words, must our soldiers be Christian, or should their faith be a factor in promotion?


You're absolutely right. A man should be proud to stand up for his faith, but to do it in uniform, to a junior who may feel pressured...yes I would say that's over the line.


15 posted on 12/12/2006 7:17:24 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Their professions of faith violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, which prohibits Congress from making laws "respecting the establishment of religion," he argued.

I think this is one of those engineered sentences which, while making no sense, is meant to be read by a half asleep reader and the mere juxtaposition of words will leave the reader with the vague idea that the First Amendment had been violated. Professions of faith don't create congressional law.
16 posted on 12/12/2006 7:19:03 AM PST by posterchild (Spent some money on women and beer, the rest was just wasted.)
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To: Vanders9

Weinstein said, evangelistic efforts by Christian officers directed toward their colleagues or subordinates amounted to "coercion" and "fanatical unconstitutional religious persecution."


On the other hand, that is nonsense.


17 posted on 12/12/2006 7:19:22 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Bulldawg Fan

The reason the Rangels want a draft is to have more control over who is in the miltary. The Rangels of this world can't stomach an elite force of anything let alone a dedicated God Fearing one.


18 posted on 12/12/2006 7:25:51 AM PST by x_plus_one (Franklin Graham: "Allah is not the God of Moses. Allah had no son")
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To: Bulldawg Fan

I guess Generals and Colonels can only evangelize in their underwear then.


19 posted on 12/12/2006 7:32:57 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Weinstein and his family have prospered in an America of freedom and religious freedom. His family may have escaped Nazi Germany or the pogroms of Russia or Poland. His safety and freedom of speech has been provided to him by a Christian majority Country and now he spits in the faces of the very people who have afforded him those rights and protection. Disgusting hypocrit!


20 posted on 12/12/2006 7:47:30 AM PST by Rockiette (Democrats are not intelligent!)
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To: Idaho Whacko

"Another Jewish attack on Christianity"?

Did I read you right?

You're insane, and failing that, extremely bigoted.


21 posted on 12/12/2006 7:48:58 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: Bulldawg Fan
A message for Mikey Weinstein:

"And He shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

Matthew 13:42

22 posted on 12/12/2006 7:54:08 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Bulldawg Fan

IMO, the only reason the trees are back is because it wasn't a Muslim who complained in the first place.


23 posted on 12/12/2006 7:54:46 AM PST by agrace (http://www.homeschoolblogger.com/agrace/)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Could we rename this org the Silly Military Religious Unified Freedom Foundation? SMURFF. Cute little blue guys.


24 posted on 12/12/2006 7:57:10 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: Bulldawg Fan

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25 posted on 12/12/2006 8:01:02 AM PST by Xenophon450 (im on ur thread, replyng to ur topix)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.

It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who that is a sincere friend to it can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric? - George Washington, Farewell Address

. . . and where is morality more necessary than in the branch of government which wields the power of the sword?


26 posted on 12/12/2006 8:02:22 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

I think there is a misconception that because someone identifies himself as Jewish or Christian, he must actually practice the faith and adhere to its standards. Among my fellow practicing Catholics, I find there to be a great kinship between Jew and Christian. Our faith emanates directly from Judaism, and follows the same path for much of history.


27 posted on 12/12/2006 8:16:56 AM PST by CASchack
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

The US "Christian military" are the only ones in the world ready to defend Israel and its people. Who else is willing to lay down their lives for them?

**crickets**


28 posted on 12/12/2006 8:21:42 AM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Religious freedom is fine, but not in uniform and not during duty hours. In the military, discussing religion or politics in uniform and during duty hours is a major no-no, and when it happens the level of discomfort goes through the roof.

The highest ranking officer, a LTC Chaplain, I saw relieved was for just such an offense. He made two grave errors: he wavered from his non-sectarian function, and he confused his particular sects' beliefs with army policy. In the same speech in front of the Post Commander.

A brief mention of Jesus would not have offended, but he went on about Jesus being the only path to salvation in front of a group of officers. A Jewish officer sat to my right and seethed, and a Moslem officer sat to my left and seethed. The Chaplain also had some unkind things to say about Catholics.

He then went on a rant about "sins" forbidden by the UCMJ, many of which weren't in any way unlawful, such as abortion, fornication, and not attending church on Sunday.

Okay, so he was probably insane. But the principle still holds, that military people are creatures of rank and hierarchy, and anything that even creates the appearance of impropriety raises tension levels in a hurry.

And religion and politics are improper things to discuss.


29 posted on 12/12/2006 8:35:36 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: Popocatapetl

"...religion and politics are improper things to discuss."

A STUPID Victorianism! Those are the only subjects that really matter. Everything else is superficial.


30 posted on 12/12/2006 9:20:11 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA EST!)
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To: CASchack

"...a misconception that because someone identifies himself as Jewish or Christian, he must actually practice the faith..."

MISCONCEPTION? WTF?
Sorry, if you don't follow Christ, you're NOT a Christian; and an atheist cannot be a Jew or Christian!


31 posted on 12/12/2006 9:24:51 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA EST!)
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To: Kimmers

Gates, fortunately, will be a short termer. His record at A&M demonstrates that he is a social leftist - aggressive on "diversity" and the rest of the Gramscian agenda.


32 posted on 12/12/2006 9:26:44 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

When the Western Christian Culture rises up against those who would try to bury it, look out.


33 posted on 12/12/2006 9:44:30 AM PST by Colonel PK (Say what you will, I don't have to agree with you.)
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To: ecomcon
Are soldiers really that delicate, sensitive and weak willed and full of fear?

There are many brave and valiant warriors, utterly fearless in battle, who think twice before annoying their seniors.

The worst the enemy can do is kill or maim you. One's seniors can ensure that you are never promoted, and that you are eventually forced to leave the service under a cloud ("if he were worth a damn, he wouldn't have been forced out.") Hell, if one has a family to support, not annoying the boss becomes job one.

34 posted on 12/12/2006 9:50:06 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: khnyny
"The US "Christian military" are the only ones in the world ready to defend Israel and its people. Who else is willing to lay down their lives for them?

**crickets**"

Perhaps the Israelis will lay down their own lives in defense of their country? I do not believe it is the obligation of our military to fight and die for Israel, and I sure don't want military leaders who believe that is their obligation. As American soldiers their loyalty is due to this country and this country alone, no others, not even Israel. If our forces are ordered to fight in defense of Israel, that's exactly what they need to do. On the other hand, allegiances change and if our soldiers are for some reason ordered to engage and defeat IDF forces, then they better do it. If their religious beliefs or some sense of obligation to Israel would preclude them from doing this, they are in the wrong line of work.
35 posted on 12/12/2006 10:48:41 AM PST by TKDietz (")
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To: Popocatapetl

"Religious freedom is fine, but not in uniform and not during duty hours. In the military, discussing religion or politics in uniform and during duty hours is a major no-no, and when it happens the level of discomfort goes through the roof."

Not sure if you're aware of this or not, but the Military is on Duty Hours 24 and 7, 365 days out of the year. In Uniform or not.

Denying them the right to their religious freedom at ANY time to pray, read the bible or even talk amongst themselves about their beliefs is a direct violation of the 1st Amendment.

Now, within reason, a superior officer should not preach to a subordinate, unless that subordinate is in his or her church. But your assertation that they should not be allowed to practice their faith in uniform and on duty is incorrect.


36 posted on 12/12/2006 11:19:35 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Not sure if you're aware of this or not, but the Military is on Duty Hours 24 and 7, 365 days out of the year. In Uniform or not.

That cannot be correct. Among other things, getting a drink at the Enlisted Club becomes "being drunk on duty."

37 posted on 12/12/2006 12:23:28 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan

Closeting, denying or abandoning our own dominant faith is as much a practical victory for those of an opposite belief as adopting theirs; just not as satisfying in terms of long range goals.


38 posted on 12/12/2006 12:34:04 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

The military distinguishes on-duty and off-duty, and does provide many accommodations to religious practices. However, there are many restrictions that distinguish when and where religious practices are authorized.

For example, proselytizing is completely forbidden in the entire overseas CENTCOM region of operations. And any extraneous conversation may be restricted during a mission cycle, for obvious reasons.

If objections are made by someone who has been approached to discuss religion, then the advocate may be directed to not approach them again.

And if soldiers or officers are required to be in attendance, then it is inappropriate for them to be addressed on the subjects of politics or religion, except as relates to military policies concerning these two.

The military does reserve the right to recognize only major religions.

These are not unduly restrictive, and are needed for the proper functioning of the military and its mission; plus there is ample opportunity for accommodation for those who feel a policy inhibits their religious practices.


39 posted on 12/12/2006 12:40:16 PM PST by Popocatapetl
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To: Bulldawg Fan
A full Colonel, newly arrived on the job, called me (a major) into his office and counselled me that membership in the Knights of Columbus would give my career a boost and increase my visibility to Senior Officers. He finished by saying, "Can I expect you'll be joining next week?"

I responded by saying, "Sir, I thought K of C membership was only for Catholics." It took him about 30 seconds to grasp my meaning, then he said, "Oh, yeah. We're through here, Major."

40 posted on 12/12/2006 12:43:10 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Spork weasels ain't afraid of nuthin' but running out of sardines.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

It is correct, you are employed by the Military 24 and 7, altho you do have time for yourself and for relaxation, you are on Duty 24 and 7, 365 days a year.


41 posted on 12/12/2006 1:04:31 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
What a CROCK. SURE! We are all stupid enough to believe this guy wants to stop the "sharing of the Christian faith" for the purpose of national security.

I'm sure he's a card-carrying ACLU member.

42 posted on 12/12/2006 1:07:24 PM PST by I'm ALL Right! ("Tolerance" is only required of Conservatives and Christians.)
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To: Popocatapetl

"The military distinguishes on-duty and off-duty, and does provide many accommodations to religious practices. However, there are many restrictions that distinguish when and where religious practices are authorized."

Restricting the practice of religion can be construed as denying a service man the right to pray or read his scriptures before going into battle. Shall we do that also? They are on duty (btw they are on duty 24 and 7, otherwise their Liberty and Leave cannot be cancelled for reasons known only to the command, and the command Can and does do that).

"For example, proselytizing is completely forbidden in the entire overseas CENTCOM region of operations. And any extraneous conversation may be restricted during a mission cycle, for obvious reasons."

Agreed, no argument there.

"If objections are made by someone who has been approached to discuss religion, then the advocate may be directed to not approach them again."

Agreed, again no argument there.


43 posted on 12/12/2006 1:11:12 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Colonel PK

I sure hope you are right.


44 posted on 12/12/2006 1:16:42 PM PST by alarm rider ("O thou who changest not, abide with me!")
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To: Bulldawg Fan

BFLR = Bump for later reading


45 posted on 12/12/2006 1:37:59 PM PST by Kevmo (Darn, if only I had signed up 4 days earlier, I'd have a 3-digit Freeper #)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
Restricting the practice of religion can be construed as denying a service man the right to pray or read his scriptures before going into battle.

Hey, the Army denied me and my buddies that right all the time when we were in Vietnam. We couldn't read scriptures (or anything else not directly related to the mission at hand) when we were on perimeter sentry duty, engaging in a Mad Minute while Mr. Charles was paying us a social call, or delivering suporting fires to friendly units.

A hypothetical case for you:

Private Willie Lump-Lump's religion requires him, just before going into battle, to light a bonfire and prosletyze all within 100 yards of my position, maintaining sufficient volume in his voice that all within 100 yards may clearly understand what he is saying.

A requirement to maintain light and noise discipline, therefore, by your construction, would be an unreasonable infringement on Private Lump-Lump's religious freedom.

46 posted on 12/12/2006 1:44:21 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Bulldawg Fan
The real national security problem isn't too much Christianity in the Pentagon. It is too much Islam in America.

But one can't expect the likes of sniviling little pr!cks like Mikey Weinstein to see that. It is to the utter shame of the AF Academy they graduated a twerp like that.

47 posted on 12/12/2006 1:59:56 PM PST by Gritty (Of the two suicide cults America confronts, Liberalism is by far the more lethal - Don Feder)
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Its not accident that the AF Academy has been ground zero for this fight. With Cadets like Mikey, its a wonder they even take a break for Chirs.......Winter.


48 posted on 12/12/2006 2:23:15 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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With Cadets like Mikey, its a wonder they even take a break for Chirs.......Winter.

Despite heavy vetting, klinkers do sometimes get through. It is the same with all the Service Academies. Usually idiots like this get weeded out in the four years there, but not always. This guy Mikey apparently has an ACLU lawyer type for a father and they are on a personal crusade to change the military world into something which will meet all PC standards, minus any semblance of religious freedom of expression.

He's pure poison, and I'm very surprised he has lasted this long in uniform. No doubt part of it is the fear factor he will sue anybody in sight who he senses "discriminates" against him or his agenda. He has all the free Liberal trial lawyers in the world at his beck and call. Most military people can't afford months in court while they're being sued by Mikey and his ACLU buddies in a civil discrimination lawsuit. They would be financially ruined, and they know it.

He's a pr!ck, First Class, no doubt about it. Unfortunately for the Air Force, there is no "side" for him to accidentally go over in the middle of the night watch. Pity.

49 posted on 12/12/2006 2:48:35 PM PST by Gritty (Tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide - D.C. Watson)
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The current US policy is that Israel is an ally, both politically and militarily. It is not a formal agreement, like NATO, but that is probably more a function of the intensely complicated and hostile political climate in the Middle East, rather than a reluctance on either side to formalize the agreement. The US also gives Israel monetary aid in the billions of dollars annually, (exact figures hard to calculate).


50 posted on 12/12/2006 4:01:13 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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